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#1 Dec 12 2012 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
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This one.

This means that myself and the other roommate will likely have to make some sacrifices as well during the one meal a day the three of us eat together. Which is fine. I can easily consume anything restricted on his diet that I want during breakfast or lunch. But I'm curious as to how you all would handle the fact that someone you know is setting themselves up to fail?

A little bit of a read over of diet advice on this suggests that planning ahead is key. But neither of my roommates is very good at planning ahead what they're going to eat. Especially on the weekends. I usually go into a weekend with each meal more or less planned out and purchased. They wait until they're starving then simply graze through the fridge or order pizza. I've seen one of them eat nothing but half a bag of potatoes over the course of a weekend because there was nothing else in the house and he didn't feel like ordering pizza or putting on shoes to go hit a drive through.

What's more is that I plan all our joint grocery lists(I have each of them plan 2 meals in a three week period because it's difficult to get them to put in the time to plan more than that).

Also, how do I deal with the sick temptation to start cooking a lot of bacon? Smiley: frown
#2 Dec 12 2012 at 5:50 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
This one.
They wait until they're starving then simply graze through the fridge or order pizza. I've seen one of them eat nothing but half a bag of potatoes over the course of a weekend because there was nothing else in the house and he didn't feel like ordering pizza or putting on shoes to go hit a drive through.

Pot or Depression?


(Just throw some stuff in the supermarket trolley on their allowed list, and put it in their section of the fridge/cupboard. If they are going to eat anything at all left in the house, they'll eat anything "organic"/wholegrain/fishy/cud chewing left in the house.)

I'm sure they've come up with mainlined bacon by now.
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#3 Dec 12 2012 at 6:25 AM Rating: Good
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But I'm curious as to how you all would handle the fact that someone you know is setting themselves up to fail?
Point and laugh.
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Also, how do I deal with the sick temptation to start cooking a lot of bacon? Smiley: frown
You tell him that by coincidence, you happen to be going on a keto diet. Then you proceed to cook a copious amount of bacon.
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Tell him that he can diet all he wants but you won't change your eating habits one bit. Part of being on a diet is learning to control your cravings around other foods.
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Tell him that he can diet all he wants but you won't change your eating habits one bit. Part of being on a diet is learning to control your cravings around other foods.


Agreed.

I never had to deal with this. I wouldn't change my diet though as mine works for me. I am diabetic, no I don't follow a pathetic diabetic diet, and so have a rough idea of what I am going to eat in the day. Usually decide that as I first get hungry in the morning.
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Iamadam wrote:
Tell him that he can diet all he wants but you won't change your eating habits one bit. Part of being on a diet is learning to control your cravings around other foods.
Honestly, that part I'm not too worried about. There's enough overlap with my preferred healthy eating habits that the one meal a day we share isn't an issue. As for the other meals, yeah, I'm not gonna change anything for his diet.

Oh, yeah. I'm doing a bit of research(you'd be amazed at what you'll do when you're bored) and found this. Should give me some great responses if he tries to get me or my other roommate to join him on this crazy thing.
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You don't sound very supportive of your roommates efforts to try and improve his health. Smiley: frown
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Elinda wrote:
You don't sound very supportive of your roommates efforts to try and improve his health. Smiley: frown

I've supported every other diet and exercise plan he's wanted to try. I've even changed our joint meal plans to fully accommodate him. This one, however, strikes me as kinda crazy. And I have to keep my distance. I can't do all his planning for him, and since he likely won't do much of his own, I suspect he'll fail.

But regardless, he's not taking me with him on this crazy thing.
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Elinda wrote:
You don't sound very supportive of your roommates efforts to try and improve his health. Smiley: frown

I've supported every other diet and exercise plan he's wanted to try. I've even changed our joint meal plans to fully accommodate him. This one, however, strikes me as kinda crazy. And I have to keep my distance. I can't do all his planning for him, and since he likely won't do much of his own, I suspect he'll fail.

But regardless, he's not taking me with him on this crazy thing.

Probably a silly question, but is your roommate a fundamentalist Christian, or from that kind of background? I really can't see anyone going on something called "The Maker's Diet" without a religious dog in the fight.

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But I'm curious as to how you all would handle the fact that someone you know is setting themselves up to fail?

Same way I've done it whenever anyone I know has set themselves up the same way. "If you're serious about it, then good for you. But I recommend making small changes and adding on to them overtime. Making a diet plan is easy: following it is tough. The best way to do it is one step at a time."

Then when they fail within a month, tell them the same thing. Eventually it might sink in?
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Elinda wrote:
You don't sound very supportive of your roommates efforts to try and improve his health. Smiley: frown

I've supported every other diet and exercise plan he's wanted to try. I've even changed our joint meal plans to fully accommodate him. This one, however, strikes me as kinda crazy. And I have to keep my distance. I can't do all his planning for him, and since he likely won't do much of his own, I suspect he'll fail.

But regardless, he's not taking me with him on this crazy thing.

Probably a silly question, but is your roommate a fundamentalist Christian, or from that kind of background? I really can't see anyone going on something called "The Maker's Diet" without a religious dog in the fight.
His mom is. He's a bit less serious about it.
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I've actually seen this diet (or variants; I never investigated) splashed on the cover of various magazines in the check-out lane over the years. I'm sure you could take a religious view of it but it seemed like the crux was more "See, people back then were hale and healthy so if you eat unleavened bread and honeycombs it stands to reason you'll be as strong as an ancient Jew!"
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It's hard to take the "they were hale and healthy back then" argument serious when they became the village elder at 30.
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:

Also, how do I deal with the sick temptation to start cooking a lot of bacon? Smiley: frown


Say you're going to be supportive and start a diet plan of your own. Then put yourself on a high protein diet. Smiley: nod

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It's hard to take the "they were hale and healthy back then" argument serious when they became the village elder at 30.


As a bonus they could lose weight through famine and starvation.

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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Elinda wrote:
You don't sound very supportive of your roommates efforts to try and improve his health. Smiley: frown

I've supported every other diet and exercise plan he's wanted to try. I've even changed our joint meal plans to fully accommodate him. This one, however, strikes me as kinda crazy. And I have to keep my distance. I can't do all his planning for him, and since he likely won't do much of his own, I suspect he'll fail.

But regardless, he's not taking me with him on this crazy thing.


Is this a roommate or a relationship?
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lolgaxe wrote:
It's hard to take the "they were hale and healthy back then" argument serious when they became the village elder at 30.

No way. Those dudes in Genesis lived to be like 350 years old.
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Is this a roommate or a relationship?
It's almost a familial type relationship. The three of us tend to act more like brothers than roommates.

And I'm the older, responsible one. God help us all.


Edited, Dec 13th 2012 1:34pm by Poldaran
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Iamadam wrote:
Is this a roommate or a relationship?
It's almost a familial type relationship. The three of us tend to act more like brothers than roommates.

And I'm the older, responsible one. God help us all.


Oh. I thought it was a *** thing.
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It's hard to take the "they were hale and healthy back then" argument serious when they became the village elder at 30.

No way. Those dudes in Genesis lived to be like 350 years old.
So that's why they've started playing Phil Collins on the oldies station.
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Too bad he's pretty much deaf these days though. Well that and that Peter Gabriel can't be bothered with doing anything Genesis related anymore. I'd have loved to see a reunion of the old Foxtrot/The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway/Selling England By The Pound era Genesis.
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