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#77 Sep 28 2012 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, but the difference is negligent!

Also, if fish aren't animals, what are they, ghosts?
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#78 Sep 28 2012 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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Clearly minerals.
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#79 Sep 28 2012 at 10:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, but the difference is negligent!

I think a lawsuit is in order.
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#81 Sep 28 2012 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
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Tyrrant wrote:
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So, you eat raw animals without cooking? Are you saying that there are no health issues in eating uncooked food?


I bet sushi makes you feel icky too.

Whatever. More for me.


I have no problem with sushi. That's why I said "animals" and not food.

Nope you clearly said food not animals. And seeing as fish are animals yes people do eat raw animals without cooking. His comment about sushi makes complete sense in both the context he is eating uncooked food and raw animals. Preparing sushi doesn't automatically mean 0 possibility of getting sick, it is less likely if prepared correctly. no different than if you cook a rare steak correctly.



Cooking food doesn't automatically mean 0 possibility of getting sick either, that wasn't the point. You fail to differentiate a "rare steak" from "raw meat".

There is a huge difference between eating prepared sushi at a restaurant and going down to the river and eating raw live fish, you know like animals do, you know the comparison being made. Vultures and insects eat dead carcasses lying in the dirt and on the side of the road, I'm assuming that he doesn't do that either. So, you can't be making comparisons that we should eat like animals when you, yourself, choose to eat like humans.

Edited, Sep 28th 2012 9:36pm by Almalieque
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Vultures and insects eat dead carcasses lying in the dirt and on the side of the road, I'm assuming that he doesn't do that either.

Neither do beavers, narwhals, snakes, shrews, river otters, bullfrogs, red-tailed hawks or star-nose moles. Someone tell those critters that they're not eating like animals!

That said, humans almost exclusively get their meat through carrion of a sort since we rarely live-kill our prey and eat it immediately. It's just a higher class of carrion than the ravens get.
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#83 Sep 28 2012 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
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Technically speaking, most carnivores eat carrion, unless they ingest the entire prey before it actually dies.
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I think we can make a distinction between "freshly killed" and "killed a week ago". Humans (at least throughout the western world) are more more likely to consume the latter than the former.

Edited, Sep 28th 2012 3:36pm by Jophiel
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What about yogurt? Does that count?
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Freshly killed yogurt?
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Precisely.

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Semi-related news, you guys should see the promo Capcom is doing for RE6 in the UK.
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#89 Sep 28 2012 at 3:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
Vultures and insects eat dead carcasses lying in the dirt and on the side of the road, I'm assuming that he doesn't do that either. So, you can't be making comparisons that we should eat like animals when you, yourself, choose to eat like humans.

So Vegans don't eat like animals? Diet doesn't dictate whether we are animals or human, our genetic coding does. By your own point our pets are no longer animals, My dog doesn't eat raw meats like the wolves she evolved from, she eats processed foods. You always say people either don't understand you or choose to ignore your points, Your points and comments are either overly specific and ignore other factors or are so vague it is up to interpretation.
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There is a huge difference between eating prepared sushi at a restaurant and going down to the river and eating raw live fish, you know like animals do, you know the comparison being made.


Yeah, the difference is a knife.
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Almalieque wrote:

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Regardless of your belief if we're "animals" are not, we are not one AND the same.



fixed that for you.

Also, I have eaten raw, fresh water mussels that I pulled out of the river, five seconds prior, and lived to tell the tale.

I'm such an ANIMAL!
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#92 Sep 28 2012 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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Vultures and insects eat dead carcasses lying in the dirt and on the side of the road, I'm assuming that he doesn't do that either.

Neither do beavers, narwhals, snakes, shrews, river otters, bullfrogs, red-tailed hawks or star-nose moles. Someone tell those critters that they're not eating like animals!


Assuming you're being sardonic as usual, I was never making a claim that there was a "right" way of eating, however, the exact opposite. The fundamental reasons on why we eat what we eat are based on our bodies and the environments we live in. So, therefore, it is rarely accurate to make a comparison to animals and "what they eat", because they are different.

You are just supporting my point. Those mentioned animals do NOT eat the same way as other animals, so how can you make a comparison to "eat like animals" when the animals themselves do not eat the same way? Answer: You can't, so stop making stupid comparisons between humans and animals.

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Vultures and insects eat dead carcasses lying in the dirt and on the side of the road, I'm assuming that he doesn't do that either. So, you can't be making comparisons that we should eat like animals when you, yourself, choose to eat like humans.

So Vegans don't eat like animals? Diet doesn't dictate whether we are animals or human, our genetic coding does. By your own point our pets are no longer animals, My dog doesn't eat raw meats like the wolves she evolved from, she eats processed foods. You always say people either don't understand you or choose to ignore your points, Your points and comments are either overly specific and ignore other factors or are so vague it is up to interpretation.


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Regardless of your belief if we're "animals" are not, we are not one in the same. Animals behave based off of their bodies and environment. Until those two factors gestate to being the same for both humans and ALL animals, these like comparisons are not valid.


You have just gave the perfect example of you clearly not understanding. My entire argument is based on that we are inherently different from our body composition and environment, so therefore like comparisons are invalid. I have no idea how you inferred the nonsense that you just wrote.

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There is a huge difference between eating prepared sushi at a restaurant and going down to the river and eating raw live fish, you know like animals do, you know the comparison being made.


Yeah, the difference is a knife.


And the cutting makes all of the difference in reference to his comparison to humans and animals. Thank you.

Edited, Sep 29th 2012 2:16am by Almalieque
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Almalieque wrote:

Almalieque The Illiterate wrote:
Regardless of your belief if we're "animals" are not, we are not one AND the same.



fixed that for you.

Also, I have eaten raw, fresh water mussels that I pulled out of the river, five seconds prior, and lived to tell the tale.

I'm such an ANIMAL!


You're such a...such a...Stupid Monkey!
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I completely understand Alma having this stupid argument, but somehow (and I know I shouldn't be) I'm surprised by the rest of you actually engaging him on this one.
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#95 Sep 28 2012 at 7:04 PM Rating: Default
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It's simply because they are just as disputatious as I am.
#96 Sep 28 2012 at 7:11 PM Rating: Good
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Ugly, he has to get in his word of the day somewhere.
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You set me up with the lob, I just spike.
#98 Sep 28 2012 at 7:16 PM Rating: Good
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your own drink?
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#100 Sep 28 2012 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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I completely understand Alma having this stupid argument, but somehow (and I know I shouldn't be) I'm surprised by the rest of you actually engaging him on this one.
I'm so glad you've come to see the error of your ways. Hopefully in due time, others will follow. It only took you several years, so I might live to see the day, maybe.
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Assuming you're being sardonic as usual, I was never making a claim that there was a "right" way of eating, however, the exact opposite. The fundamental reasons on why we eat what we eat are based on our bodies and the environments we live in. So, therefore, it is rarely accurate to make a comparison to animals and "what they eat", because they are different.

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