PhD Study - Participants requested for Survey about GriefingFollow

lol... being griefed in a survey about griefing.

You are dealing with human subjects which requires "informed consent" . I am sure we can all agree is defined as "A process by which a subject voluntarily confirms his or her willingness to participate in a particular trial, after having been informed of all aspects of the trial that are relevant to the subject's decision to participate. Informed consent is documented by means of a written, signed and dated informed consent form. "
This does not mean, slowly trickling out information, especially the IMPORTANT information such as to whom to contact with questions ( I had to research that myself because you neglected, or intentionally left out your contact information. Who is your HREC, The email address for the other professor etc)

"None of the oral and written information concerning the trial, including the written informed consent form, should contain any language that causes the subject or the subject’s legally acceptable representative to waive or to appear to waive any legal rights, or that releases or appears to release the investigator, the institution, the sponsor, or their agents from liability or negligence."

And, from personal experience, we always have to include the following type of statement "That the subject's participation in the trial is voluntary and that the subject may refuse to participate or withdraw from the trial, at any time, without penalty or loss of benefits to which the subject is otherwise entitled." If there is a chance that we might not be able to fully delete their response, then you explain that.

Here are a few examples of what a proper consent form looks like:
http://www.irb.cornell.edu/forms/sample.htm
http://www.tamusa.tamus.edu/graduatestudies/1sessioncontrolled.doc

Also, since some of the posters here are underage, how will you get their parents permission?

There are human subjects behind the pixels. What you submitted to your HREC, needs to be adhered to. You want to publish, correct?
Some of our posters like Kavekk aren't educated, and won't notice or care if you violate ethics standards regarding human subjects in research (in fact, they, may even encourage it because it amuses them.). But, those of us who are, and do research ourselves, notice and we are the ones asking you for further information not because we want to hurt your feelings but because we want you to do it RIGHT. You are our peer.

Whose to say in 5 years, if you publish, that your information won't shape the way Counselors provide therapy to their clients. I can see some real, viable uses for your data, but I can't use your research as a reference, if you even unknowingly violate human subject research ethics standards.

I'm just a Masters student, explaining to a Doctoral student about research ethics and that feels frustratingly awkward. Does that make sense?

They won't attempt to. Minors aren't supposed to respond, as the preface makes clear.

It's painfully obvious you didn't even click on the link, niobia. Given the number of words wasted on this baffling crusade of yours, that's pretty ridiculous.

Doesn't matter. Ethical guidelines guarantee I have the right to those things.


Edit: Regardless, I think this was a very well put together questionnaire. Much better than some I have occasioned to answer in the past. Well done.

However, I still believe there should be a debrief at the end of the survey with your hypothesis and such.

Edited, Aug 9th 2012 6:32pm by Nilatai

Answer the survey or **** off. You don't have to take the damn thing if you don't want to.

Oh for christ's @#%^ing sake.



Transsexuality is not a sexual orientation. It's completely @#%^ing separate. If you really want to be thorough and sensitive on the matter, it goes in the "gender" section, along with a "no answer" or "prefer not to respond"

Edited, Aug 9th 2012 11:14pm by Jinte

Transgender people (at least the ones I know) Would be more likely to simply mark the gender they are transitioning to, or have transitioned to. So putting Transgender in the gender category wouldn't likely get all that many actual transgendered people to mark it. Mazra, I think that's where the confusion of the "Third Gender" comes from some transgendered people consider themselves the third sex, they have taken on some of the physical characteristics of both sexes, and consider themselves somewhere in between the two (sometimes known as intersexed).

Whereas, Jinte, Transexuality is a sexuality and not a gender, and should remain in the sexuality category.

The main mistake here in this survey, is that they've listed Transexual/Transgender as if they're the same thing.

I wonder...

If we turned all survey threads into a more or less unrelated argument, would the survey posters stop coming here? What if we agreed to limit it only to those yahoos from the University of Denver?

Surely even if you're trans you still fall into "male or female", seeing as it is asking for your gender, not your sex.

The main mistake in this survey is that it was posted.