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#127 Mar 14 2012 at 10:57 AM Rating: Default
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Oh, and debate is not in a general sense to argue. Debate is a more specified word than argue. Argue is the general sense of debate, not the other way around. Words have meanings, learn them.


Wow.. you really are dense, that's what I said...

If the word "debate" were the general sense of argue, then my statement wouldn't have made any sense. I wouldn't have to clarify the generality of a general word. That's why I specifically said that I wasn't referring to any particular definition.

"Argue" is indeed more general than "debate", just like "soda" is more general than "Coke" and "tissue" is more general than "Kleenex". However, I specifically stated earlier in this thread, that I was using "debate" for "argue" in the same way people use "Playstation/Xbox" for video games, "Coke" for soft drinks and "Kleenex" for "tissue".

We transitioned from a topic of general conversing back and forth to the ability of being able to debate via definition. Those are two completely different topics.

If that concept fails you, then you simply fail.
#128 Mar 14 2012 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
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Tossing around "general sense" doesn't excuse categorical misuse.



No it doesn't.
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You people will debate anything won't you?

I mean argue... coke...

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discuss...

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What do you mean, "you people"?
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GODDAMMIT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?!

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"Argue" is indeed more general than "debate", just like "soda" is more general than "Coke" and "tissue" is more general than "Kleenex". However, I specifically stated earlier in this thread, that I was using "debate" for "argue" in the same way people use "Playstation/Xbox" for video games, "Coke" for soft drinks and "Kleenex" for "tissue".
English, try using it some time. As I said before, words have meanings. And on a written forum, you're held to them as that's all there is. Feel free to let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.
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GODDAMMIT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?!

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I seem to have lost my "you people" flashcard. :(
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I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
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I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
We could hope.
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#136 Mar 14 2012 at 10:50 PM Rating: Default
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English, try using it some time. As I said before, words have meanings. And on a written forum, you're held to them as that's all there is. Feel free to let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.


Given the fact that I didn't disagree with your definition and comparison of the words, what exactly is your point? Are you against idioms because words have meanings?

Funny how when I counter arguments solely based on certain key words i.e. "homosexuals don't have the 'right' to marry" BS, I get called "pedantic" because there is no law preventing homosexuals from marrying. However, when I engage in a casual conversation, then all of the sudden words have to be used exactly how they were defined.

Funny how that works.. Contradict much? So, what's it going to be?
#137 Mar 14 2012 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
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I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.


Oh, you must have read that in the same AR that states your other lie? You have some nerve as a spineless p*ssy that can't even admit to being wrong to something completely irrelevant to us to call someone else a LIAR! Really? At this point, you have no weight in any discussion over veracious actions.
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Ugly wrote:
English, try using it some time. As I said before, words have meanings. And on a written forum, you're held to them as that's all there is. Feel free to let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.


Given the fact that I didn't disagree with your definition and comparison of the words, what exactly is your point? Are you against idioms because words have meanings?

Funny how when I counter arguments solely based on certain key words i.e. "homosexuals don't have the 'right' to marry" BS, I get called "pedantic" because there is no law preventing homosexuals from marrying. However, when I engage in a casual conversation, then all of the sudden words have to be used exactly how they were defined.

Funny how that works.. Contradict much? So, what's it going to be?


In other words, you can be a pedantic prick, but no one else can....?
#139 Mar 15 2012 at 4:32 AM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
Oh, you must have read that in the same AR that states your other lie? You have some nerve as a spineless p*ssy that can't even admit to being wrong to something completely irrelevant to us to call someone else a LIAR! Really? At this point, you have no weight in any discussion over veracious actions.
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Does it hurt so much to be called out on a lie?
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Ugly wrote:
English, try using it some time. As I said before, words have meanings. And on a written forum, you're held to them as that's all there is. Feel free to let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.


Given the fact that I didn't disagree with your definition and comparison of the words, what exactly is your point? Are you against idioms because words have meanings?

Funny how when I counter arguments solely based on certain key words i.e. "homosexuals don't have the 'right' to marry" BS, I get called "pedantic" because there is no law preventing homosexuals from marrying. However, when I engage in a casual conversation, then all of the sudden words have to be used exactly how they were defined.

Funny how that works.. Contradict much? So, what's it going to be?


I'd challenge you to find one occurrence of me ever challenging you on disagreeing with you when others use the word "right" and *** marriage, but that would delay you leaving. Farewell, enjoy your life without us as I'm sure it'll be far more ignorant and blissful.


Edited, Mar 15th 2012 8:48am by Uglysasquatch
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lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
We could hope.
Even fantasy has limits.
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lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
We could hope.
Even fantasy has limits.
I was hoping Kao would hold him to his word.
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#143 Mar 15 2012 at 10:35 AM Rating: Default
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Ugly wrote:
English, try using it some time. As I said before, words have meanings. And on a written forum, you're held to them as that's all there is. Feel free to let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.


Given the fact that I didn't disagree with your definition and comparison of the words, what exactly is your point? Are you against idioms because words have meanings?

Funny how when I counter arguments solely based on certain key words i.e. "homosexuals don't have the 'right' to marry" BS, I get called "pedantic" because there is no law preventing homosexuals from marrying. However, when I engage in a casual conversation, then all of the sudden words have to be used exactly how they were defined.

Funny how that works.. Contradict much? So, what's it going to be?



In other words, you can be a pedantic prick, but no one else can....?


Nope.. I used the wrong word. I meant no deception of any kind, I was just using casual talk and wasn't trying to base an argument on the accuracy of one word.

However, when others purposely use incorrect words with full intent of making their argument have a different effect, it's "ok".

I'm just asking for consistency.
#144 Mar 15 2012 at 10:36 AM Rating: Default
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Almalieque wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
Oh, you must have read that in the same AR that states your other lie? You have some nerve as a spineless p*ssy that can't even admit to being wrong to something completely irrelevant to us to call someone else a LIAR! Really? At this point, you have no weight in any discussion over veracious actions.
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Does it hurt so much to be called out on a lie?


I honestly couldn't tell you.

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 6:37pm by Almalieque
#145 Mar 15 2012 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
We could hope.
Even fantasy has limits.
I was hoping Kao would hold him to his word.
It's a real shame, but there's no rule against being a whiny little lying *****. A little annoying for us honest folk who have values and such, but what can you do?

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 12:39pm by lolgaxe
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#146 Mar 15 2012 at 10:43 AM Rating: Default
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Almalieque wrote:
Ugly wrote:
English, try using it some time. As I said before, words have meanings. And on a written forum, you're held to them as that's all there is. Feel free to let the door hit you on the *** on the way out.


Given the fact that I didn't disagree with your definition and comparison of the words, what exactly is your point? Are you against idioms because words have meanings?

Funny how when I counter arguments solely based on certain key words i.e. "homosexuals don't have the 'right' to marry" BS, I get called "pedantic" because there is no law preventing homosexuals from marrying. However, when I engage in a casual conversation, then all of the sudden words have to be used exactly how they were defined.

Funny how that works.. Contr

I'd challenge you to find one occurrence of me ever challenging you on disagreeing with you when others use the word "right" and *** marriage, but that would delay you leaving. Farewell, enjoy your life without us as I'm sure it'll be far more ignorant and blissful.

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 8:48am by Uglysasquatch
adict much? So, what's it going to be?


The fact that you're CHALLENGING me to FIND a quote only supports the notion that you remained SILENT, which proves my point that you're inconsistent. Thank you for admitting to being a hypocrite. Smiley: nod


Since you're concerned with saving time, why don't you state whether you agree or not that banning same *** marriage takes the rights of marriage away from homosexuals. Or do you believe that their right has never changed, but they are at a disadvantage due to a restriction that equally applies to everyone?

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 6:50pm by Almalieque
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lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
We could hope.
Even fantasy has limits.
I was hoping Kao would hold him to his word.
It's a real shame, but there's no rule against being a whiny little lying *****. A little annoying for us honest folk who have values and such, but what can you do?

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 12:39pm by lolgaxe


If he did, there wouldn't be anyone here.

Find that AR yet? Or are you still looking?
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Almalieque wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I don't know why anyone would put any stock in his claim. It shouldn't be any surprise he turned out to be a lying little *****, after all.
Oh, you must have read that in the same AR that states your other lie? You have some nerve as a spineless p*ssy that can't even admit to being wrong to something completely irrelevant to us to call someone else a LIAR! Really? At this point, you have no weight in any discussion over veracious actions.
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I honestly couldn't tell you.

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 6:37pm by Almalieque


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Nope.. I used the wrong word. I meant no deception of any kind, I was just using casual talk and wasn't trying to base an argument on the accuracy of one word.

However, when others purposely use incorrect words with full intent of making their argument have a different effect, it's "ok".

I'm just asking for consistency.


Perhaps to get consistency, you have to give it? If you want to nitpick others for their casualness on the forums (i.e. saying something general to the topic at hand, yet you insist on spreading it over several topics because, when taken completely literally, it could be construed that way even if that was obviously not what was intended), then you have no right to ***** when someone else does the same to you.

Also, for the record, this whole forum is casual, even when two people are "debating" or "arguing" over some particular topic.
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The fact that you're CHALLENGING me to FIND a quote only supports the notion that you remained SILENT, which proves my point that you're inconsistent. Thank you for admitting to being a hypocrite. Smiley: nod


Since you're concerned with saving time, why don't you state whether you agree or not that banning same *** marriage takes the rights of marriage away from homosexuals. Or do you believe that their right has never changed, but they are at a disadvantage due to a restriction that equally applies to everyone?

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 6:50pm by Almalieque
First off, learn to ******* quote.
Second, you have to make a point before you can prove it. And it's not inconsistency. I've consistently wanted you gone from here and that's the sole reason I pounced on this.
Third, no rights are denied, however, they are not disadvantaged equally like everyone else, because everyone else isn't disadvantaged.
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Or do you believe that their right has never changed, but they are at a disadvantage due to a restriction that equally applies to everyone?

Everyone else gets to marry people that
a) they are sexually compatible with and could sexually desire and in fact in the vast majority of cases DO sexually desire, and have a fulfilling sexual relationship with.
b) they are romantically compatible with, in the way that they CAN fall IN love with (not just love greatly as a friend) and in fact in the vast majority of cases ARE romantically in love with, and have a fulfilling romantic companionship with.

I CAN"T ******* FATHOM WHY I EVEN WROTE THAT OUT FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOUR ARGUMENT THAT HOMOSEXUALS ALREADY HAVING THE RIGHT TO MARRY PEOPLE OF THE OPPOSITE ***, WHILE NOT HAVING THE RIGHT TO MARRY PEOPLE OF THE SAME ***, MEANS THAT THEIR RIGHT TO MARRY IS INTACT: IS SO FATUOUS, TRANSPARENTLY RIDICULOUS, MORALLY BANKRUPT AND FALSE THAT I DON'T SEE WHY YOU CAN ADVANCE IT WITHOUT MAKING YOURSELF A LYING HYPOCRITICAL HATEFUL BIGOT THAT IS SMUGLY BARELY COVERING UP HIS BIGOTRY IN A NANO-THIN VENEER OF SOCIAL ACCEPTABILITY. YOUR ADVOCACY OF THIS ARGUMENT MAKES ME SICK, AND INFURIATED THAT I SHARE A CULTURE WITH YOU. IF YOU SINCERELY SWEAR-ON-YOUR-SACRED-OBJECT-OF-CHOICE BELIEVE IN THAT ARGUMENT YOU PUT FORWARD, YOU ARE SO ILLOGICAL AND IRRATIONAL THAT YOUR INFLUENCE ON SOCIETY BY ADVOCACY OF YOUR IDEAS AND CONCLUSIONS MAKES ME SCARED FOR OUR CULTURE AND INFURIATED THAT OUR CULTURE COULD PRODUCE SO DEFICIENT A HUMAN BEING.

JUST **** THE **** OFF TO THE INFINITESIMALLY SMALL; LOVELESS; LIGHTLESS; EMPATHETICALLY, INTELLECTUALLY, MORALLY, ETHICALLY, BANKRUPT QUAGMIRE YOU CRAWLED OUT OF TO INFLICT YOUR DERANGED, DANGEROUS AND SOCIALLY POISONOUS SELF UPON US. GO PERMANENTLY HANG WITH THE DELUSIONAL, SMUG, UNJUSTIFIABLY SELF-SATISFIED CROWD THAT AGREES WITH YOU, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU POISONING THE MEMESPHERE I INHABIT.

Revolting, disgusting little man.
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