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See there? I think I was right at 200 in that picture. That was 3ish years ago?

Kaain from a year ago. The results are obvious and this was before I started going to the gym.
#30 Aug 21 2011 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Seems to be going easier yesterday and today. The biggest thing is the boredom hunger. 9pm, watching a Doctor Who special, suppressing the urge to go grab a sandwich. Not to hard as long as I keep busy. I think I may shift my sleeping hours a bit to lower the time I'm sitting awake after supper. And it will let me wake up earlier and eat breakfast.

I did end up buying some lower calorie versions of common foods I eat for supper. Like tortillas, the normal version I used to eat had 210 calories per tortilla. I different one I'm trying today has only 80 per tortilla, for roughly the same size. It'd be hard to keep eating those and try to lower my calorie intake.

I have tried those Mio things in the past. I don't know what flavors they come in though, I've only seen the sweat tea versions at the local stores. Tastes good though, but I'll probably still just drink water.
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#31 Aug 21 2011 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
Sweat tea sounds incredibly gross.

I don't like sweet tea either, though.
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I found a second flavor today. Strawberry Watermelon. Apparently there are 6 flavors. http://www.kraftbrands.com/mio/index.html I've only seen the two though.

There is a fine line between tastes good and way too much in your water, and being that there is no set measurement for it, it's pretty easy to cross.
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#33 Aug 21 2011 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
Sometimes I like water flavored water.
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Sometimes I like water flavored water.
I like water that's flavored with ice.
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Ice is always good.
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If bored eating becomes a problem try using healthier foods for snacks. I'll eat chips and cookies, but I don't keep them at home. Instead I keep raw almonds, berries, fruit, spinach, carrots, and cheese (+mandatory crackers), and yogurt.

You'll find it quite difficult to pack away calories if you're snacking on spinach and carrots.
#37 Aug 21 2011 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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Eat more fibre. Have fruit for snacks. Try avoiding white breads and stick to whole grain breads. Both of these worked really well for me, but I actually prefer whole grain breads, so it was an easy change.
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Not much to add, but water is good. A lot of the signals that people interpret as hunger is actually thirst. So if you are feeling hungry, drink some water. If after that you are still hungry, get something to eat.
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Try smoking, that'll suppress your apatite!


It depends what you smoke.
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#40 Aug 21 2011 at 8:00 PM Rating: Good
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I think I may shift my sleeping hours a bit to lower the time I'm sitting awake after supper. And it will let me wake up earlier and eat breakfast.


You want to eat dinner 3-4 hours before bed. Any less and you're not giving your body proper time time to digest the food before bed. Any more and you're creating too big of a gap between dinner and breakfast.

The fruit punch MIO isn't bad, just don't use a lot. I use the Crystal light fruit punch or wild strawberry. I use two packets (each packet is a .5L serving) in a 1.5L bottle. It's enough to add some flavor without overpowering it. I drink anywhere from 4.5-6L of water a day.

I went from 1-2 large meals a day, to 4-5 small meals for about 1500-2000 calories a day, and completely stopped drinking pop. After two months I didn't drop a pound. I started talking to a few people and found out proper sleep has a huge part to play, as big a part as proper diet and exercise. On average I would get about 5-6 hours of sleep a night. Once I started getting 7-8 hours a night, I started dropping weight. If you aren't getting enough sleep for your body to properly recover, no amount of dieting is going to help.

Edited, Aug 21st 2011 4:01pm by Raolan
#41 Aug 24 2011 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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So far I'm doing:

300-400 Cal for Breakfast
100-300 Cal for Lunch
400-600 Cal for Supper

Shooting for about 1200 each day, successful so far, but only 7 days. I'm thinking I should cut down supper and put more in breakfast or lunch though. I make sure I eat before 6:30 or so, and usually go to bed at 10-11. Right now I'm eating a small (but usually filling) lunch, like a bowl of soup or something. Usually a bit hungry by 5:30 at the end of the day at work.

Should probably shoot for a straight 400, 400, 400.

Edited, Aug 24th 2011 6:40pm by TirithRR
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#42 Aug 24 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
So far I'm doing:

300-400 Cal for Breakfast
100-300 Cal for Lunch
400-600 Cal for Supper

Shooting for about 1200 each day, successful so far, but only 7 days. I'm thinking I should cut down supper and put more in breakfast or lunch though. I make sure I eat before 6:30 or so, and usually go to bed at 10-11. Right now I'm eating a small (but usually filling) lunch, like a bowl of soup or something. Usually a bit hungry by 5:30 at the end of the day at work.

Should probably shoot for a straight 400, 400, 400.

Transfer some of dinner calories to lunch and add in a couple 100-200 calorie snacks in between. You're a big guy and dropping down to 1200 calories a day is going to slow down your metabolism. You'll certainly lose weight at 1200 a day, but slower than with the extra snacks and you'll be in a prime position to gain it back once you stop dieting.

ETA: There's an old saying, "Breakfast for a king, lunch for a prince and dinner for a pauper." We do it ***-backwards in the US and it's very hard for some people to change their eating routine.

Edited, Aug 24th 2011 6:34pm by Kaain
#43 Aug 24 2011 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
Should probably shoot for a straight 400, 400, 400.
Breakfast should be your biggest intake of calories, and dinner your smallest since you're going to be most active during the day and least at night. I had a soldier last year who did a decent breakfast, something to get him through the rest of the day for lunch, and a snack at night. Like a small bowl of chips and salsa.
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Prior to the change I'd eat maybe 100-200 for Breakfast, 500-1000 for lunch, and then, looking back now, probably 1500-2000 for supper at times. It's amazing how fast those large dinner calories add up. Eating 3-4 tacos, using about 1/2 lb ground beef and 4 tortilla shells, plus cheese). I made myself a small pizza yesterday for supper ended up being about 500 calories. Looking back at the pizza I'd make before... that alone must have been 2000.

So before I was probably eating 2500-3000 every day, sometimes more.

I was kind of hoping that eating a decent sized breakfast now would help keep my metabolism from dropping too much.

I'm not really trying to diet, in the sense as it's something temporary. I'm trying to change the way I eat permanently. I will probably go back to a 1500-2000 calorie diet after a while once I see results from the lower.
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#45 Aug 24 2011 at 5:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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TirithRR the Eccentric wrote:
I'm not really trying to diet, in the sense as it's something temporary. I'm trying to change the way I eat permanently. I will probably go back to a 1500-2000 calorie diet after a while once I see results from the lower.

You can stay at 1500-2000 NOW if you'd like and I'd recommend it over what you're trying now. The quicker the results the quicker it comes back. Calories are metabolic fuel. The less you intake the less your body has to power itself. What's going to happen is your body will store the excess calories as fat when you move back up to 2000cal a day and have a weaker metabolism to help offset the change. It's counterproductive to rush weight loss like that.

It may not be that big of a deal since 1200cal isn't abnormally low, but it's something to think about.
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Raolan wrote:
You want to eat dinner 3-4 hours before bed. Any less and you're not giving your body proper time time to digest the food before bed.


Source? Everything I've read suggests that "eating before bed" theories are all myths.

You digest food while you sleep, and I've heard that for some this can make sleeping more difficult, but that has much more to do with the quality of the food that you eat (stuff that can cause heartburn or indigestion) than it does with the timing.

Other than that, I haven't found any relevance. The "if you eat before bed, it turns to fat" theory in particular appears to be an old wives' tale.
#47 Aug 24 2011 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Everything I've read suggests that "eating before bed" theories are all myths.
While proof that eating before bed directly causes weight gain is debatable, if you eat a large meal that is high in carbohydrates before your body goes to rest, chances are that your body will not burn them all for fuel.
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#48 Aug 24 2011 at 6:06 PM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Raolan wrote:
You want to eat dinner 3-4 hours before bed. Any less and you're not giving your body proper time time to digest the food before bed.


Source? Everything I've read suggests that "eating before bed" theories are all myths.

You digest food while you sleep, and I've heard that for some this can make sleeping more difficult, but that has much more to do with the quality of the food that you eat (stuff that can cause heartburn or indigestion) than it does with the timing.

Other than that, I haven't found any relevance. The "if you eat before bed, it turns to fat" theory in particular appears to be an old wives' tale.

Eating before bed is bad due to the fact that you're lying still and burning off NONE of the meal. Again.. food is fuel. You don't need to fuel up to go to sleep. There's really no point other than indulgence.
#49 Aug 25 2011 at 7:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't see what the problem is, though. Most people don't exercise after every meal. The issue with meals before bed seems to have everything to do with eating healthy (just like any other meal) and nothing to do with the meal's timing. We do burn calories during sleep. We burn them no matter what. If you're eating healthy, then you shouldnt have any negative holdovers.

I get that logically, it seems like not burning off the energy during sleep seems like it'd be a problem. But if you're eating right in the first place, then that shouldn't matter at all (according to everything I've read). The weight gain theory is unsubstantiated, and I don't see what else there is to be concerned about.

Edited, Aug 25th 2011 9:18am by Eske
#50 Aug 25 2011 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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It's not unsubstantiated. It's based on the fact that most people eat their biggest meal of the day at the end of the day, and then don't do any extra activity to burn it off. You're correct that if you're eating right in the first place, it shouldn't matter. But most people don't, and for those people it does matter.
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#51 Aug 25 2011 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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Vataro wrote:
You're correct that if you're eating right in the first place, it shouldn't matter.


Isn't that the context of this discussion? Tirith said that he was eating a small dinner, and cutting calories. I'm saying that when he eats that small dinner doesn't matter, based on everything that I've heard.

At any rate, I think it's much more direct to just say "eat healthy and exercise." Suggesting that sleep has some sort of causal role in this particular situation is not correct. It's no different than any other sedentary part of one's life. If you're eating a big meal and then browsing ZAM for 4 hours, it's pretty much the same.

Edited, Aug 25th 2011 11:13am by Eske

Edited, Aug 25th 2011 11:15am by Eske
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