Update on DADT PolicyFollow

Are they hot?

Relevant pic is relevant:

In alma's world, that is exactly what would happen. My point was that you could probably let gays shower with the others, or even the other gays, and it wouldn't turn into a scene from Caligula.

Now you know how everyone else feels.

Which at this point is nothing but an argument used, which doesn't mean anything if the argument is bad.




Because we all know that those men are just sex crazed lunatics. I'm sure if a man were in a bathroom with other women, all he'd do is run around sucking everyone's breast. They just can't control themselves, the heathens!



Internet is free there buddy! Besides, are you accusing heterosexual men as being sex crazed addicts... OMG I can't control myself!!

I never said that unisex bathrooms would cause a rape epidemic. Still trying to figure out how a man can be in a bathroom with other women, though. So if you strategy was 'truth by confounding someone', you win, I guess.

Yeah, why not?

Might want to fix that typo there. I'm pretty sure you wanted the R instead of the K. Also, theres that whole "misquoting an admin" forum rules clause to think of.

You should move it to the Vanguard forums for safekeeping.

It saves homosexuals by removing them from the army, where they might otherwise be killed.

Duh.

The consequences may be why one fights against something, but they only need to understand whichever aspect of those consequences they don't like, not all of them. However, they do need to understand what the policy is preventing in order to weigh one side against the other, even if the side they are arguing against isn't the whole thing, just the part they don't like.

And I haven't been alluding to anything, I said my issue with the DADT repeal, and that's the potential loss of life due to the mistrust between a homosexual and a homophobe in a combat situation. Not only does that mistrust have the potential to affect those directly involved, but everyone around them too. While people might not get killed because of it, I guarantee it will cause problems because it already does cause problems and DADT is still in affect. Even with that my issue with it isn't the repeal itself, but the timing of it.

Then you should throw homophobes out of the Army. Do you have this issue with racists? Would you tolerate this behaviour from racists?


Your argument is f*cking stupid.

Why, because you don't agree with it?

Go ahead and throw them out, throw the racists out too, I'm all for that. The problem is that bigots and racists know they'll get in trouble if they out themselves, so they generally don't. If they aren't willing to out themselves, how do you identify them prior to a problem arising?



Most people, regardless of whether they are a good soldier or not, don't care. That doesn't mean that nobody cares. Believe it or not, a lot of homosexuals aren't completely in the closet, they are just careful to keep it out of work and away from people they don't trust.

I agree that the repeal of DADT will reduce bigotry, but it won't eliminate it and it won't happen over night. Homophobes aren't going to magically wake up and say "Hey, the military is ok with it, I guess I am too." And until they do, it introduces a potential problem.