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#27 Nov 02 2008 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Also, I was convinced, until recently, that tarv was Welsh.
I'm Mancunian by birth and Devonian by residence.
#28 Nov 02 2008 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
tarv


So how is it in Manchester? (i.e., worth to go there?)
#29 Nov 02 2008 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
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So how is it in Manchester? (i.e., worth to go there?)
It's the sh*thole of the entire universe, I only go there under duress.

So no it's not worth visiting unless you're going for the sports.

If you want cities to visit over here try:

London
York
Bath
Edinburgh

That should keep you occupied.
#30 Nov 02 2008 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
Don't go to Manchester, you'll get mugged.



Also there's nothing of interest there.
#31 Nov 02 2008 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
London: That's where I'll try to do my research. Besides, it's the only UK city where I can fly from here.

York, Edinburgh: Kinda outta my way. I plan on going there, well, some time later. Not this time, though. I don't want to spend half my vacation on trains.

Bath: Mh. Might consider that.


Obligatory and the second most important reason for me planning this whole vacation: Nottingham.
#32 Nov 02 2008 at 4:14 AM Rating: Good
Bath and York are both nice places. Edinburgh I've only seen by night at New Year, so the only impressions I got were of dark and vomit.
#33 Nov 02 2008 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
Smiley: bah


You people...


You might make me go for getting € 100 more for this voyage. And that will make it even harder getting the money at all.
#34 Nov 02 2008 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
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Birmingham's now a major tourist destination and it's handy for all the great historic castles (Warwick, Ludlow etc.), Stratford on Avon, Nottingham's an hour away, and there's all the Tolkien places in the City Centre as well as Broad Street's bars restaurants & casinos and a few very good theatres.

London can occupy you for a week easily, but it'll hammer your wallet flat in a day or two.

Bath is great for a day, but not much more (ditto York), and they're not really handy for anywhere else.

Most of the US friends who've come to visit find splitting their time 50/50 between London & B'ham.

And as for Wales. . .

Awesome castles at Caernaerfon, Conwy, Pembroke, Ragland. . .
Excellent climbing at Capel Curig and other parts of Snowdonia.
Great hillwalking around Snowdonia & further south in the Black Mountains.
The Blaenau Ffestiniog steam railway travels through outstanding scenery.

Most of the good touristy stuff is in North Wales - in the south, the only real thing that I've enjoyed is the Mumbles Mile (one of the greatest pub-crawls in the world).
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#35 Nov 02 2008 at 5:37 AM Rating: Decent
Nobby, y'know, I really appreciate what you say on a lot of things.

The maximum duration of my stay will be three weeks, most probably less, and that does mean I can't spend a lot of time at respective places if I want to see a lot of different locations, as well as a lot of London and Nottingham (plus, there's the fact that I actually need to get a bit of work done), so visiting places for one day is realistic.

Visiting places which are too far north is not realistic, because of my financial limits.

And I do want at least £200 for leisurely stuff, so that does limit my finances greatly, too, and I can only afford it by approaching all the people who owe me money anyways.

Also, remember this is not only for touristy stuff, but also for the interviews and plans on migration 2009 or 2010.


This is a bit frustrating.


But, as it looks, my migration plans might come into place far earlier than I anticipated, so I'll have enough time to go see places then.


#36 Nov 02 2008 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
Birmingham and Nottingham are both covered in a cloud of toxic smog, though.

P.S. If you go to Snowdon, there's a very good whiewater rafting center near Bala, if you're into that kind of thing.
#37 Nov 02 2008 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
Kavekk wrote:
Birmingham and Nottingham are both covered in a cloud of toxic smog, though.

P.S. If you go to Snowdon, there's a very good whiewater rafting center near Bala, if you're into that kind of thing.



Not this time.

Remember, I'm gonna go in December/January.

Or is it indoors?
#38 Nov 02 2008 at 6:31 AM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
Birmingham and Nottingham are both covered in a cloud of toxic smog, though.
Nottingham's still pretty grubby, but Birmingham has
a) fUck-all heavy industry any more
b) massively regenerated the area since the 90s

it's lemony fresh.

And Kalivha - £200 will last a day in London, 2 in other cities if you're careful.


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#39 Nov 02 2008 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
I've been told you can sustain yourself (minus transportation and a place to stay at) with £3 per day.

As of a year ago, that is.

Plus, I'm going alone, so I will not do the expensive touristy things as much.


And what should I spend the £200 per day on? I think the last time I even thought about spending that much money was, like, never?


Kindly remember I'm fucking poor. £200 is what I spend for leisurely things in four months, usually.
#40 Nov 02 2008 at 6:52 AM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
I've been told you can sustain yourself (minus transportation and a place to stay at) with £3 per day.

As of a year ago, that is.

Plus, I'm going alone, so I will not do the expensive touristy things as much.


And what should I spend the £200 per day on? I think the last time I even thought about spending that much money was, like, never?


Kindly remember I'm fucking poor. £200 is what I spend for leisurely things in four months, usually.
OK - the context is relevant; is this £200 over-and-above accommodation costs?

A Big Mac Meal is about £3.60

Find a cheap cafe (a 'greasy spoon') and you'll get a fry-up for that. Fish and Chips - between £4 and £6.

£3 a day sounds very frugal.

Theatre tickets - between £35 and £120
Pint of beer - Between £1.90 (cheapest, outside London) to about £4 (London)

I appreciate that in my advanced years I'm fortunate enough to have a good disposable income, but even when I recall my economy years, I can't imagine how I could make £200 last 2 weeks in England at today's prices without living on crap.

If you get near the Midlands, PM me and I'll stand you dinner and a pint Smiley: wink
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#41 Nov 02 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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Baron von tarv wrote:
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Also, I was convinced, until recently, that tarv was Welsh.
I'm Mancunian by birth and Devonian by residence.


I have no idea what that means.
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#42 Nov 02 2008 at 7:08 AM Rating: Decent
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OK - the context is relevant; is this £200 over-and-above accommodation costs?

Yes, it is. I'm not that naive. Smiley: lol About £4-5 per day for food are also in the equation already.
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A Big Mac Meal is about £3.60

Find a cheap cafe (a 'greasy spoon') and you'll get a fry-up for that. Fish and Chips - between £4 and £6.

£3 a day sounds very frugal.

Since you're so greatly advising me already, I have to ask -- how much would be, say, two pounds of tomatoes? I'm used to living on vegetables and water exclusively half of the time, and I'm too chintzy to eat out every day if I can save some money not doing so, no matter where I am.

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Theatre tickets - between £35 and £120
Pint of beer - Between £1.90 (cheapest, outside London) to about £4 (London)

Mh. I've given up going to theatres alone; I usually only go to performances of people I know personally, and then I get the tickets a lot cheaper. I shall not do such things this time. Maybe next, though.
I shall also not drink much beer; one pint is enough to get me quite drunk anyways, and I don't want to spend half my vacation with headaches.

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I appreciate that in my advanced years I'm fortunate enough to have a good disposable income, but even when I recall my economy years, I can't imagine how I could make £200 last 2 weeks in England at today's prices without living on crap.

If you get near the Midlands, PM me and I'll stand you dinner and a pint Smiley: wink

I live off €350 per months (plus accomodation costs), and I pay all my bills with those €350. That is not much. I do know that pretty much everything is a lot more expensive in Britain, but it's not like 10x, is it?

Also, see the other thread on when I'll be where according to my current planning.
#43 Nov 02 2008 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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Tomatoes are about £2 a kilo.

ISTR you're in Germany ?

Eating out is about 3-4x more expensive here
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#44 Nov 02 2008 at 7:28 AM Rating: Decent
So the vegetable prices are pretty similar, at least. A bit more expensive perhaps.

The Bic Mac Meal price is actually the same IIRC, but I'm not a fan of fast food anyways.

And yea, I'm in Germany.


More questions you might be able to answer: For hostels and public transportation, should I order those online as soon as I have the money, or just do that while I'm there?
And, do I need maps or can I find them out on the streets?

(You see, I've never before planned a vacation. Didn't travel at all since I moved out from my mom's, except once to Lloret de Mar. Smiley: lol)
#45 Nov 02 2008 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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Hostels - Booking online might save money, but not much.
Advantage is you're sure of a bed for the night.
Downside is you're committing yourself to a certain itinerary.

Public Transportation:
Trains - VERY VERY expensive if you don't book in advance, so if you know your dates and times and are confident about making the right date and time, do it.
E.g. B'ham to London booked a month in advance - about £20. Pay on the day - over £100.
Probably best to avoid trains (Compared to Germany, they're slow, dirty, unreliable and stupidly expensive)

Cheapest way (between major towns) is Coaches - National Express are cheap and reliable.

Within London - buy a day saver ticket for all trains,underground trains and buses (A 3-day central London is £17.40, £40 for Greater London))
For London Travel, check out Transport for London.
In London, even cheaper is to order an Oystercard (prepaid swipe card) that saves a lot of money if you can plan ahead.

Edit : forgot Maps

Lots of people will try to sell you maps! There are also vending machines. As in most countries, find a Tourist Information centre (most airports and major ports & railway stations) and the maps are free, and the advisors can usually give you specific information about where to go.

Again, PM me if you need any specific information and I can always email or mail stuff.

Another edit: Link to Youth Hostels Association - Very good value - between £10 and £30 a night)

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 11:27am by Nobby
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#46 Nov 02 2008 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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Nobby ya know what...June of next year if my ship isn't commissioned yet. I should use 12 days of leave and come visit you in the UK.
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#47 Nov 02 2008 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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Sogoro wrote:
Nobby ya know what...June of next year if my ship isn't commissioned yet. I should use 12 days of leave and come visit you in the UK.
Spare room will be available
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#48 Nov 02 2008 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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#49 Nov 02 2008 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
Totally random question, but what kind of ship are you going to sail on and have you ever sunk an enemy vessel?

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 10:59am by Kavekk
#50 Nov 02 2008 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
have you ever sunk an enemy vessel?
Nixnot should answer this Smiley: sly
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#51 Nov 02 2008 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
Totally random question, but what kind of ship are you going to sail on and have you ever sunk an enemy vessel?

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 10:59am by Kavekk


The ship is still being built. But it's an LHD, an amphibious assault ship. A marine taxi basically.

Plane tickets are only 1500. Which seems to be pretty good imo. Maybe a MAC flight will be going there sometime in June and I can a ticket for 100 bucks. :O

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 12:08pm by Sogoro
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