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#1 Nov 01 2008 at 12:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Protip #34:

If you need a road sign in dual languages, and you send off the text for translation, get someone to proof-read the text. . .

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E-mail error ends up on road sign

When officials asked for the Welsh translation of a road sign, they thought the reply was what they needed.

Unfortunately, the e-mail response to Swansea council said in Welsh: "I am not in the office at the moment. Please send any work to be translated".

So that was what went up under the English version which barred lorries from a road near a supermarket.

"When they're proofing signs, they should really use someone who speaks Welsh," said journalist Dylan Iorwerth.

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You really should have proof-read your laughing grid. Smiley: mad
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#3 Nov 01 2008 at 12:22 AM Rating: Good
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#4 Nov 01 2008 at 12:46 AM Rating: Good
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That is shocking but honestly the person that printed that was not Welsh so perhaps a better thread title would be "Silly English People" since you know a Welsh person would have been able to understand what they had received back in the out of office.


Yeah I know the mistake was made in Swansea Council but they do have English people living there

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#5 Nov 01 2008 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
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"When they're proofing signs, they should really use someone who speaks Welsh,"
Maybe if they didn't ask for signs in useless languages that hardly anyone even speaks, there would be enough money in the kitty to pay for a second person in the office to cover holidays Smiley: schooled
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SWM wrote:
That is shocking but honestly the person that printed that was not Welsh so perhaps a better thread title would be "Silly English People" since you know a Welsh person would have been able to understand what they had received back in the out of office.


Yeah I know the mistake was made in Swansea Council but they do have English people living there

Edited, Nov 1st 2008 4:50am by SWM


Actually, very few Welsh people speak Welsh. Many of them don't even have an accent, unless you're deep in the valleys.

Mainly because it's just a **** silly language.
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Actually, very few Welsh people speak Welsh. Many of them don't even have an accent, unless you're deep in the valleys.

Mainly because it's just a **** silly language.


I'm from Wrexham, most people I know from Wales speak Welsh as a second language.

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Many of them don't even have an accent, unless you're deep in the valleys.


This is also complete *********

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#8 Nov 01 2008 at 3:23 AM Rating: Good
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I lived in Wales, Snowdon, to be precise, for a time in my youth. Most people spoke Welsh there, but the younger kids often talked English when among peers. I can speak quite a lot of Welsh - or, well, I could. I'm probably not fluent anymore.
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#9 Nov 01 2008 at 3:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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HAHAHAhahahaha Welsh.
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Well alright, let me put it another way. While Welsh is taught as a second language in schools here, it is used little enough that the Welsh I have met(however much they hate the English) can speak little more than a few words or phrases of it.

And what would I know about the accents? I've only lived with six different Welsh people over the last year and a half, and none of them have had recognisably Welsh accents (except for one girl who got a Welsh accent the more she drank). One of them is even confused as American on a very regular basis.
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During the last 12 years i've lived with 50-60 Welsh lads and known 200+ more well enough to know if they spoke Welsh.

I know 1 welsh speaker who does it as a party trick and says he never speaks it in wales.

On accents, central and east Wales have a much more broad accent, south Wales accent is unrecognisable from a Bristol Accent.
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I want to go to Wales.

(Well, hopefully I will.)
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I want to go to Wales.
I can think of no good reason to go to Wales.

Scotland, England and Ireland yes, Wales no.
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I want to go to Wales.
I can think of no good reason to go to Wales.

Scotland, England and Ireland yes, Wales no.


Well, I want to go to England for two weeks or so, and Wales for, like, two days.
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Baron von tarv wrote:
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I want to go to Wales.
I can think of no good reason to go to Wales.

Scotland, England and Ireland yes, Wales no.


I can think of two:

If you're studying sheep or rain.
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Rain would be perfectly viable anywhere in the British Isles.
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Rain would be perfectly viable anywhere in the British Isles.


I actually have a map which shows the rain statistics of Europe at home, and apart from Wales and Ireland, Britain is about average in rain.

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#22 Nov 01 2008 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
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It almost never rains here, and when it does it floods because we are so flat.


We do get tornadoes though! Smiley: schooled
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#23 Nov 01 2008 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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True story, I can listen to a Welsh person for like 10 minutes before i realize they are speaking English. Also, I was convinced, until recently, that tarv was Welsh. I don't know why either.
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#24 Nov 01 2008 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
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I want to go to Wales.
I can think of no good reason to go to Wales.

Scotland, England and Ireland yes, Wales no.



I would go just to visit "Merlin's Cave"
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#25 Nov 01 2008 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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How do you pronounce that mass of letters vomited up by an innocent book?
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#26 Nov 02 2008 at 2:13 AM Rating: Good
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How do you pronounce that mass of letters vomited up by an innocent book town?


FTFY


I dunno. How should I know? Do I look Welsh to you? I DO????


Huh.




I think it's pronounced "podunk"
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Also, I was convinced, until recently, that tarv was Welsh.
I'm Mancunian by birth and Devonian by residence.
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So how is it in Manchester? (i.e., worth to go there?)
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So how is it in Manchester? (i.e., worth to go there?)
It's the sh*thole of the entire universe, I only go there under duress.

So no it's not worth visiting unless you're going for the sports.

If you want cities to visit over here try:

London
York
Bath
Edinburgh

That should keep you occupied.
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Don't go to Manchester, you'll get mugged.



Also there's nothing of interest there.
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London: That's where I'll try to do my research. Besides, it's the only UK city where I can fly from here.

York, Edinburgh: Kinda outta my way. I plan on going there, well, some time later. Not this time, though. I don't want to spend half my vacation on trains.

Bath: Mh. Might consider that.


Obligatory and the second most important reason for me planning this whole vacation: Nottingham.
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Bath and York are both nice places. Edinburgh I've only seen by night at New Year, so the only impressions I got were of dark and vomit.
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You people...


You might make me go for getting € 100 more for this voyage. And that will make it even harder getting the money at all.
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Birmingham's now a major tourist destination and it's handy for all the great historic castles (Warwick, Ludlow etc.), Stratford on Avon, Nottingham's an hour away, and there's all the Tolkien places in the City Centre as well as Broad Street's bars restaurants & casinos and a few very good theatres.

London can occupy you for a week easily, but it'll hammer your wallet flat in a day or two.

Bath is great for a day, but not much more (ditto York), and they're not really handy for anywhere else.

Most of the US friends who've come to visit find splitting their time 50/50 between London & B'ham.

And as for Wales. . .

Awesome castles at Caernaerfon, Conwy, Pembroke, Ragland. . .
Excellent climbing at Capel Curig and other parts of Snowdonia.
Great hillwalking around Snowdonia & further south in the Black Mountains.
The Blaenau Ffestiniog steam railway travels through outstanding scenery.

Most of the good touristy stuff is in North Wales - in the south, the only real thing that I've enjoyed is the Mumbles Mile (one of the greatest pub-crawls in the world).
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Nobby, y'know, I really appreciate what you say on a lot of things.

The maximum duration of my stay will be three weeks, most probably less, and that does mean I can't spend a lot of time at respective places if I want to see a lot of different locations, as well as a lot of London and Nottingham (plus, there's the fact that I actually need to get a bit of work done), so visiting places for one day is realistic.

Visiting places which are too far north is not realistic, because of my financial limits.

And I do want at least £200 for leisurely stuff, so that does limit my finances greatly, too, and I can only afford it by approaching all the people who owe me money anyways.

Also, remember this is not only for touristy stuff, but also for the interviews and plans on migration 2009 or 2010.


This is a bit frustrating.


But, as it looks, my migration plans might come into place far earlier than I anticipated, so I'll have enough time to go see places then.


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Birmingham and Nottingham are both covered in a cloud of toxic smog, though.

P.S. If you go to Snowdon, there's a very good whiewater rafting center near Bala, if you're into that kind of thing.
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Birmingham and Nottingham are both covered in a cloud of toxic smog, though.

P.S. If you go to Snowdon, there's a very good whiewater rafting center near Bala, if you're into that kind of thing.



Not this time.

Remember, I'm gonna go in December/January.

Or is it indoors?
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Birmingham and Nottingham are both covered in a cloud of toxic smog, though.
Nottingham's still pretty grubby, but Birmingham has
a) fUck-all heavy industry any more
b) massively regenerated the area since the 90s

it's lemony fresh.

And Kalivha - £200 will last a day in London, 2 in other cities if you're careful.


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I've been told you can sustain yourself (minus transportation and a place to stay at) with £3 per day.

As of a year ago, that is.

Plus, I'm going alone, so I will not do the expensive touristy things as much.


And what should I spend the £200 per day on? I think the last time I even thought about spending that much money was, like, never?


Kindly remember I'm fucking poor. £200 is what I spend for leisurely things in four months, usually.
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I've been told you can sustain yourself (minus transportation and a place to stay at) with £3 per day.

As of a year ago, that is.

Plus, I'm going alone, so I will not do the expensive touristy things as much.


And what should I spend the £200 per day on? I think the last time I even thought about spending that much money was, like, never?


Kindly remember I'm fucking poor. £200 is what I spend for leisurely things in four months, usually.
OK - the context is relevant; is this £200 over-and-above accommodation costs?

A Big Mac Meal is about £3.60

Find a cheap cafe (a 'greasy spoon') and you'll get a fry-up for that. Fish and Chips - between £4 and £6.

£3 a day sounds very frugal.

Theatre tickets - between £35 and £120
Pint of beer - Between £1.90 (cheapest, outside London) to about £4 (London)

I appreciate that in my advanced years I'm fortunate enough to have a good disposable income, but even when I recall my economy years, I can't imagine how I could make £200 last 2 weeks in England at today's prices without living on crap.

If you get near the Midlands, PM me and I'll stand you dinner and a pint Smiley: wink
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Also, I was convinced, until recently, that tarv was Welsh.
I'm Mancunian by birth and Devonian by residence.


I have no idea what that means.
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OK - the context is relevant; is this £200 over-and-above accommodation costs?

Yes, it is. I'm not that naive. Smiley: lol About £4-5 per day for food are also in the equation already.
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A Big Mac Meal is about £3.60

Find a cheap cafe (a 'greasy spoon') and you'll get a fry-up for that. Fish and Chips - between £4 and £6.

£3 a day sounds very frugal.

Since you're so greatly advising me already, I have to ask -- how much would be, say, two pounds of tomatoes? I'm used to living on vegetables and water exclusively half of the time, and I'm too chintzy to eat out every day if I can save some money not doing so, no matter where I am.

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Theatre tickets - between £35 and £120
Pint of beer - Between £1.90 (cheapest, outside London) to about £4 (London)

Mh. I've given up going to theatres alone; I usually only go to performances of people I know personally, and then I get the tickets a lot cheaper. I shall not do such things this time. Maybe next, though.
I shall also not drink much beer; one pint is enough to get me quite drunk anyways, and I don't want to spend half my vacation with headaches.

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I appreciate that in my advanced years I'm fortunate enough to have a good disposable income, but even when I recall my economy years, I can't imagine how I could make £200 last 2 weeks in England at today's prices without living on crap.

If you get near the Midlands, PM me and I'll stand you dinner and a pint Smiley: wink

I live off €350 per months (plus accomodation costs), and I pay all my bills with those €350. That is not much. I do know that pretty much everything is a lot more expensive in Britain, but it's not like 10x, is it?

Also, see the other thread on when I'll be where according to my current planning.
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Tomatoes are about £2 a kilo.

ISTR you're in Germany ?

Eating out is about 3-4x more expensive here
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So the vegetable prices are pretty similar, at least. A bit more expensive perhaps.

The Bic Mac Meal price is actually the same IIRC, but I'm not a fan of fast food anyways.

And yea, I'm in Germany.


More questions you might be able to answer: For hostels and public transportation, should I order those online as soon as I have the money, or just do that while I'm there?
And, do I need maps or can I find them out on the streets?

(You see, I've never before planned a vacation. Didn't travel at all since I moved out from my mom's, except once to Lloret de Mar. Smiley: lol)
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Hostels - Booking online might save money, but not much.
Advantage is you're sure of a bed for the night.
Downside is you're committing yourself to a certain itinerary.

Public Transportation:
Trains - VERY VERY expensive if you don't book in advance, so if you know your dates and times and are confident about making the right date and time, do it.
E.g. B'ham to London booked a month in advance - about £20. Pay on the day - over £100.
Probably best to avoid trains (Compared to Germany, they're slow, dirty, unreliable and stupidly expensive)

Cheapest way (between major towns) is Coaches - National Express are cheap and reliable.

Within London - buy a day saver ticket for all trains,underground trains and buses (A 3-day central London is £17.40, £40 for Greater London))
For London Travel, check out Transport for London.
In London, even cheaper is to order an Oystercard (prepaid swipe card) that saves a lot of money if you can plan ahead.

Edit : forgot Maps

Lots of people will try to sell you maps! There are also vending machines. As in most countries, find a Tourist Information centre (most airports and major ports & railway stations) and the maps are free, and the advisors can usually give you specific information about where to go.

Again, PM me if you need any specific information and I can always email or mail stuff.

Another edit: Link to Youth Hostels Association - Very good value - between £10 and £30 a night)

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 11:27am by Nobby
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Nobby ya know what...June of next year if my ship isn't commissioned yet. I should use 12 days of leave and come visit you in the UK.
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Nobby ya know what...June of next year if my ship isn't commissioned yet. I should use 12 days of leave and come visit you in the UK.
Spare room will be available
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Totally random question, but what kind of ship are you going to sail on and have you ever sunk an enemy vessel?

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 10:59am by Kavekk
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have you ever sunk an enemy vessel?
Nixnot should answer this Smiley: sly
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Totally random question, but what kind of ship are you going to sail on and have you ever sunk an enemy vessel?

Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 10:59am by Kavekk


The ship is still being built. But it's an LHD, an amphibious assault ship. A marine taxi basically.

Plane tickets are only 1500. Which seems to be pretty good imo. Maybe a MAC flight will be going there sometime in June and I can a ticket for 100 bucks. :O

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