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#127 Nov 07 2007 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I knew a kid whom by 14 had an entire plan to be a professional landscaper the second he left school. The result? He owns his own landscaping business and makes a couple hundred g's a year. Granted most people don't have his willpower, determination, or hard work ethic, but then again, I've seen adults having trouble to find their niche by 30.

#128 Nov 07 2007 at 12:21 PM Rating: Default
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Precisely I believe that there should be In-depth interviews, discussing the prospects further education prospects, ideas for a job, business prospects, ect.

This would be done on a case-by case basis, where there would be a standard age of evaluation, where you could apply early. also people still not knowing what to do when they leave school, to stay behind and take elective practical courses.

Edited, Nov 7th 2007 12:24pm by RunawayFive
#129 Nov 07 2007 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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This is all assuming they're Intelligent and Mature enough to understand the long-term effects, including the trouble the absence from school will cause.


So how do you measure that? And legislate that? Should we have literacy tests for people to have civil rights? It'll be just like the Jim Crow era but this time, it's for everyone!
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#130 Nov 07 2007 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
You don't seem to understand, Runway. You've changed my mind, we can no longer legistlate for the good of all children, we need to let them make their own decisions.

Just because one ten year old doesn't understand economy doesn't mean the other doesn't.

Let them have cake!!
#131 Nov 07 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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Lady Annabella wrote:
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This is all assuming they're Intelligent and Mature enough to understand the long-term effects, including the trouble the absence from school will cause.


So how do you measure that? And legislate that? Should we have literacy tests for people to have civil rights? It'll be just like the Jim Crow era but this time, it's for everyone!


No, it'd be more akin to skipping a grade.
#132 Nov 07 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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#133 Nov 07 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
Lady Annabella wrote:
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This is all assuming they're Intelligent and Mature enough to understand the long-term effects, including the trouble the absence from school will cause.


So how do you measure that? And legislate that? Should we have literacy tests for people to have civil rights? It'll be just like the Jim Crow era but this time, it's for everyone!
I think a test to determine the ability to give informed consent would be awesome.

The way I see it, if you're 9 and can prove to understand the ramifications of a sexual relationship and want one, more power to you. On the other hand, if you're 30 and you still don't get it, NO PROCREATION FOR YOU.
#134 Nov 07 2007 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
You don't seem to understand, Runway. You've changed my mind, we can no longer legistlate for the good of all children, we need to let them make their own decisions.

Just because one ten year old doesn't understand economy doesn't mean the other doesn't.

Let them have cake!!


While we're at it we should assume that humanity is too stupid to think for itself. We can have assigned jobs, assigned marriages, and we can even have the government dictate our dreams!!!

That'd be swell, too, right?
#135 Nov 07 2007 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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RunawayFive wrote:
Lady Annabella wrote:
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This is all assuming they're Intelligent and Mature enough to understand the long-term effects, including the trouble the absence from school will cause.


So how do you measure that? And legislate that? Should we have literacy tests for people to have civil rights? It'll be just like the Jim Crow era but this time, it's for everyone!


No, it'd be more akin to skipping a grade.



Really? How so? How do you actually carry that law out? Don't be vague, if you are gonna wave that flag, back your sh*t up.

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The way I see it, if you're 9 and can prove to understand the ramifications of a sexual relationship and want one, more power to you.


So if 9 year old Susie knows that having sex with a 40 year old might make babies, then she should be allowed to have it?


Edited, Nov 7th 2007 3:30pm by Annabella
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#136 Nov 07 2007 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
RunawayFive wrote:
While we're at it we should assume that humanity is too stupid to think for itself. We can have assigned jobs, assigned marriages, and we can even have the government dictate our dreams!!!

That'd be swell, too, right?


There's a reason that people are considered "children" up to a certain age. And a reason that people are considered to have reached their majority at a certain age.

I'm guessing you're about 16 or 17. How close am I?
#137 Nov 07 2007 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
RunawayFive wrote:
While we're at it we should assume that humanity is too stupid to think for itself. We can have assigned jobs, assigned marriages, and we can even have the government dictate our dreams!!!

That'd be swell, too, right?


There's a reason that people are considered "children" up to a certain age. And a reason that people are considered to have reached their majority at a certain age.

I'm guessing you're about 16 or 17. How close am I?


Why stop at 18? let's go straight to 80!
#138 Nov 07 2007 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
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After all, people magically mature, and become wise of the world the second they hit 18, right? right?

Well except that whole drinking thing, then you have to wait until you're 21....
#139 Nov 07 2007 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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The way I see it, if you're 9 and can prove to understand the ramifications of a sexual relationship and want one, more power to you.


So if 9 year old Susie knows that having sex with a 40 year old might make babies, then she should be allowed to have it?
That part was just to get to my joke about stupid people not generating offspring. Smiley: mad
#140 Nov 07 2007 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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RunawayFive wrote:
After all, people magically mature, and become wise of the world the second they hit 18, right? right?

Well except that whole drinking thing, then you have to wait until you're 21....


Then does that mean you have no age of consent? That you think a five year old should be able to have sex? An eight year old should drop out of school and stay at home? I mean, really, enlighten me.
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#141 Nov 07 2007 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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RunawayFive wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
You don't seem to understand, Runway. You've changed my mind, we can no longer legistlate for the good of all children, we need to let them make their own decisions.

Just because one ten year old doesn't understand economy doesn't mean the other doesn't.

Let them have cake!!


While we're at it we should assume that humanity is too stupid to think for itself. We can have assigned jobs, assigned marriages, and we can even have the government dictate our dreams!!!

That'd be swell, too, right?

That'd be awesome. As long as my job and status still dictated that I'm better than everyone else, that is.

I wanna be the Dream Dictator.

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#142 Nov 07 2007 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I could try to explain a system that would be similar to our own, but would have the freedom to recognize that fact that some people mature and become more ready for society at different ages (some older some younger) and would work provisions into the law to acknowledge that fact and allow workarounds.

But then you would ruin it with hyperbole, slippery-slopes, and demands that a created in-depth and through outline.

So, nah.
#143 Nov 07 2007 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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That'd be swell, too, right?[/quote]
That'd be awesome. As long as my job and status still dictated that I'm better than everyone else, that is.

I wanna be the Dream Dictator.



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3 words: Assigned bathroom breaks.

Also everything you eat would be assigned, because we're obviously too stupid to eat properly.

Also your job would be pre-determined based on the result of a 2000 question multiple-choice test

Edited, Nov 7th 2007 12:50pm by RunawayFive
#144 Nov 07 2007 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Jerking off to cartoons is not one of them.

I do it half-heartedly.
#145 Nov 07 2007 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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I could try to explain a system that would be similar to our own, but would have the freedom to recognize that fact that some people mature and become more ready for society at different ages (some older some younger) and would work provisions into the law to acknowledge that fact and allow workarounds.

But then you would ruin it with hyperbole, slippery-slopes, and demands that a created in-depth and through outline.

So, nah.
Actually, I can ruin your plan without resorting to any of those. I only need two words ... "Equal Protection". I can also point out that the extent of state and federal regulation of such a program would be so onerous that it would actually create a more intrusive government than we already have. Not to mention the additional layers bureaucracies needed to administer such programs because, let's face it, your 9-year-old Lolita may be mature enough to enter into an adult relationship, but she may not be ready to drive ... or to work ... or to enter into legally binding contracts ... or assume any of the myriad responsibilities imposed upon adults. So, what you envision would require separate testing in each of these areas to determine Lolita's limits in pretending to be an adult.

Damn! I used slippery-slope ... but it's hardly hyperbole.
#146 Nov 07 2007 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, I can ruin your plan without resorting to any of those. I only need two words ... "Equal Protection". I can also point out that the extent of state and federal regulation of such a program would be so onerous that it would actually create a more intrusive government than we already have. Not to mention the additional layers bureaucracies needed to administer such programs because, let's face it, your 9-year-old Lolita may be mature enough to enter into an adult relationship, but she may not be ready to drive ... or to work ... or to enter into legally binding contracts ... or assume any of the myriad responsibilities imposed upon adults. So, what you envision would require separate testing in each of these areas to determine Lolita's limits in pretending to be an adult.

Damn! I used slippery-slope ... but it's hardly hyperbole.


Yeah with a 4.9% unemployment rate we'll NEVER find enough people to fill these jobs. :(

Yes, because the ability to drive a car or understand a contract is not based on reasoning, understanding or ability, but rather an arbitrary age based off of how many times our planet has revolved around the sun.

Sounds just as logical to me.

(Btw I love how this started from 15 and went down all the way to 9 years old, GG guys I OBVIOUSLY didn't notice the not-so-subtle change.)

Just because I argue for something doesn't mean I'm involved with it. Otherwise I'd be Alcoholic chain-smoking-toker who's consults regularly with hookers. (no offense BT)

Edited, Nov 7th 2007 1:04pm by RunawayFive
#147 Nov 07 2007 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
RunawayFive wrote:
(Btw I love how this started from 15 and went down all the way to 9 years old, GG guys I OBVIOUSLY didn't notice the not-so-subtle change.)


As far as rights go, there is no difference. If you want a 15 year old to be able to get into a relationship, then it should be ok for a 9 year old to get into a relationship with a 35 year old.... right?
#148 Nov 07 2007 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
RunawayFive wrote:
(Btw I love how this started from 15 and went down all the way to 9 years old, GG guys I OBVIOUSLY didn't notice the not-so-subtle change.)


As far as rights go, there is no difference. If you want a 15 year old to be able to get into a relationship, then it should be ok for a 9 year old to get into a relationship with a 35 year old.... right?
Or a 25 year old with an abortion.
#149 Nov 07 2007 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
RunawayFive wrote:
(Btw I love how this started from 15 and went down all the way to 9 years old, GG guys I OBVIOUSLY didn't notice the not-so-subtle change.)


As far as rights go, there is no difference. If you want a 15 year old to be able to get into a relationship, then it should be ok for a 9 year old to get into a relationship with a 35 year old.... right?


If you don't want a 15 year old to get married then it shouldn't be o.k. for a 35 year old to get married... right?
#150 Nov 07 2007 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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If you don't want a 15 year old to get married then it shouldn't be o.k. for a 35 year old to get married... right?


Yes, they should. Because a 35 year old is a legal adult and not a child.
#151 Nov 07 2007 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Strawmen and Slippery Slopes aside, My point is the individual should be judged on weather or not they should be allowed privilege, not something as abstract as age.

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