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#27 Nov 06 2007 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why do the damn writers have to pick now to go on strike? Ugh.

And I can never decide if I like HRG or not. He's nice one week, and evil as hell the next.
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you mean Nathan or Adam?


Adam of course. Seeing as he's immortal.

Also, that fact that his name is 'Adam' may mean something. (original seed etc.)


hmmmm, if this is true, who's Eve?
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#29 Nov 06 2007 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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Professor Jinte wrote:
Iamadam the Shady wrote:
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you mean Nathan or Adam?


Adam of course. Seeing as he's immortal.

Also, that fact that his name is 'Adam' may mean something. (original seed etc.)


hmmmm, if this is true, who's Eve?


In this world, Eve is still inside Adam. She'll never get out.
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#30 Nov 06 2007 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
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correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the shape shifter person Syler killed named eve?
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#31 Nov 06 2007 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the shape shifter person Syler killed named eve?


That was Candice.

However, I think that a /whooosh would also apply here.
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#32 Nov 06 2007 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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/whooshing aside, IIRC the woman with the voice power was named Eve. Pretty sure there's no connection though.


I'd figured that Kensei would end up being immortal and would be behind some of the stuff going on, but I'd thought that maybe he would end out having been Linderman (maybe aging slowly over time), which would have been a great "gotcha" moment. Guess they decided on yet another layer of mystery behind the scenes.


Although I guess I'm not sure how this works. Supposedly this guy was too powerful to be allowed out and about, but unless he's somehow developed other powers or something, I'm not sure how that is. Sure. He can heal from any wound. Nice. But that's not exactly going to make him super dangerous in a group of people who can fly, transmute elements, project lightning, and control people's minds. Why is he such a threat?
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#33 Nov 06 2007 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
/whooshing aside, IIRC the woman with the voice power was named Eve. Pretty sure there's no connection though.


That was Eden.

Wow, they really need fewer characters. It's so hard to keep track nowadays.


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Although I guess I'm not sure how this works. Supposedly this guy was too powerful to be allowed out and about, but unless he's somehow developed other powers or something, I'm not sure how that is. Sure. He can heal from any wound. Nice. But that's not exactly going to make him super dangerous in a group of people who can fly, transmute elements, project lightning, and control people's minds. Why is he such a threat?


I think that he has picked up other abilities over the centuries including flight and invisibility. Either that or he always had these powers which goes back to him being the original 'Hero'.
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#34 Nov 06 2007 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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Iamadam the Shady wrote:
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/whooshing aside, IIRC the woman with the voice power was named Eve. Pretty sure there's no connection though.


That was Eden.

Wow, they really need fewer characters. It's so hard to keep track nowadays.


Hah! Eden. Close... ;)


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I think that he has picked up other abilities over the centuries including flight and invisibility. Either that or he always had these powers which goes back to him being the original 'Hero'.


That's possible. But so far there's been no direct indication that he's got any other powers. Suppose we'll just have to wait. Of course *now* is when they decide to do the flashback episode where they tell us what happened in between seasons 1 and 2. Bastadges!
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#35 Nov 06 2007 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
That's possible. But so far there's been no direct indication that he's got any other powers. Suppose we'll just have to wait. Of course *now* is when they decide to do the flashback episode where they tell us what happened in between seasons 1 and 2. Bastadges!


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#36 Nov 06 2007 at 9:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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That was really a great episode. I wouldn't have expected 2 climactic showdowns like this so early in the season... it's already got the last season finale beat.

I've really got no complaints. Although, is Mohinder acting even dumber than usual?

And Peter is the one who killed Nakamura, I totally called it.
#37 Nov 06 2007 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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And Peter is the one who killed Nakamura, I totally called it.


Ummm, did I miss something? I thought that Adam killed Nakamura. Peter was in Ireland at the time.
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#38 Nov 06 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh? Maybe I'm just as crappy with Japanese names as I think I am-- you mean Hiro's father?

I think he was killed by Kensai. Hence, tackling him over a building so that he dies in the fall, then Kensai just gets up and walks away.

A little confused about that btw-- I don't think Kensai will have any other powers besides invulnerability/immortality. On the other hand, I didn't catch what Bob said the guy's name was who he implied could control weather and was extremely dangerous, but people are saying that he said Adam? If that's the case, maybe Kensai isn't really Adam, even though that's what he told Peter.

#39 Nov 06 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh good, I thought it was just me.
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I was thinking that Adam might be more powerful just because of his support network and resources, more than just him being immortal.
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#41 Nov 07 2007 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
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However, I think that a /whooosh would also apply here.


Oh, I got the joke, but I thought I'd try to add something constructive. Except that I got the characters name completely wrong XD.
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While there may be a hero who can control the weather, I am more inclined to think that the tidal wave that turned into a snowfall was from a combination effort from multiple heroes.

The guy who could freeze things (Sylar killed him off in season 1, it was the episode where Molly was found. Remember the frozen person at the dinner table?) and someone else. It just seems to fit into the whole original Company working as a team theme that Bob was talking about.

I think the guy froze the wave and another hero shattered/shredded it into snow or something to that effect. In fact, the more I think about it, it looked like Angela Petrelli was getting shredded or something when she was alone in that interrogation room (don't have the episodes handy, can't double check it) but I think that power could have something to do with it.
#43 Nov 07 2007 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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Danalog the Vengeful Programmer wrote:
I was thinking that Adam might be more powerful just because of his support network and resources, more than just him being immortal.


I think at this point in his life his 'support network' would consist solely of Peter. He's probably more powerful simply because of his hundreds of years of life experience.

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In fact, the more I think about it, it looked like Angela Petrelli was getting shredded or something when she was alone in that interrogation room (don't have the episodes handy, can't double check it) but I think that power could have something to do with it.


I thought that she was being attacked by an invisible man, who then shattered and escaped through the window into (seemingly) nowhere.


Keep in mind that we have yet to see Angela's power. I know she has one since she made reference to her being 'special' in the last episode.
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#44 Nov 07 2007 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Keep in mind that we have yet to see Angela's power. I know she has one since she made reference to her being 'special' in the last episode.


Didn't we see her "jump start" Peter's mind in this last episode? Or was it just a to conveniently placed time to remember his mother?
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Keep in mind that we have yet to see Angela's power. I know she has one since she made reference to her being 'special' in the last episode.


Didn't we see her "jump start" Peter's mind in this last episode? Or was it just a to conveniently placed time to remember his mother?


I thought that he read her mind using Parker's power.
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#46 Nov 07 2007 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought that she was being attacked by an invisible man, who then shattered and escaped through the window into (seemingly) nowhere.


I'm pretty sure that was Parkman's father... Maury was it? We don't know what he made her see, but that's what made her freak out and nearly kill herself.

I think Nathan even said that in this last episode.
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I thought that she was being attacked by an invisible man, who then shattered and escaped through the window into (seemingly) nowhere.


I'm pretty sure that was Parkman's father... Maury was it? We don't know what he made her see, but that's what made her freak out and nearly kill herself.

I think Nathan even said that in this last episode.


I think that was the suspicion, but I don't know if there was any proof. I don't think that Maury can give someone physical injuries like she had. Also, when they entered the room to save her the 'illusion' stopped, which is inconsistent with the other times Maury gave someone a nightmare.
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#48 Nov 07 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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Ummm, did I miss something? I thought that Adam killed Nakamura. Peter was in Ireland at the time.

Nope, you didn't miss anything. I'm still assuming. But that was my guess in the first episode (just because the killer looked a hell of a lot like Peter) and everything that's happened so far seems to be moving in that direction. If I remember right, Peter only turned up in Ireland after the murder, though not a really long time after.

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I think he was killed by Kensai. Hence, tackling him over a building so that he dies in the fall, then Kensai just gets up and walks away.

Peter can do that too.
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Ummm, did I miss something? I thought that Adam killed Nakamura. Peter was in Ireland at the time.

Nope, you didn't miss anything. I'm still assuming. But that was my guess in the first episode (just because the killer looked a hell of a lot like Peter) and everything that's happened so far seems to be moving in that direction. If I remember right, Peter only turned up in Ireland after the murder, though not a really long time after.


Of course, if you want to reach a little we could guess that Peter traveled forward/backward in time to that point to perform the killings.[/i]

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I think that was the suspicion, but I don't know if there was any proof. I don't think that Maury can give someone physical injuries like she had. Also, when they entered the room to save her the 'illusion' stopped, which is inconsistent with the other times Maury gave someone a nightmare.


You could be right, but Maury can definitely make someone give themself injuries. You have a point about him stopping when someone entered the room, but maybe he had to take off at that point. I don't think he can use his power from anywhere he wants.

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Peter can do that too.


True, I guess Kensai could have convinced Peter to travel back into time to kill him, but I doubt it. Nakemura said something along the lines of, "Of all of them, I never thought it would be you," which to me implies strongly that it was one of his older comrades, and also I can't recall if he ever really even met Peter. Did he really know Peter well enough to identify him? I can imagine that they had met at some point from his relationship with Peter's mom, but I can't recall any specific instances.
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You could be right, but Maury can definitely make someone give themself injuries. You have a point about him stopping when someone entered the room, but maybe he had to take off at that point. I don't think he can use his power from anywhere he wants.


He may not be able to use his power, but his implanted nightmares do stick around after he leaved. (ala Mollie)

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True, I guess Kensai could have convinced Peter to travel back into time to kill him, but I doubt it. Nakemura said something along the lines of, "Of all of them, I never thought it would be you," which to me implies strongly that it was one of his older comrades, and also I can't recall if he ever really even met Peter. Did he really know Peter well enough to identify him? I can imagine that they had met at some point from his relationship with Peter's mom, but I can't recall any specific instances.


It could be that there's another founder of the company that is in league with Adam.
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