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#1 Nov 03 2007 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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So do you kiss? Or is that to 'personal' for you? The reason I ask...

I was at my friends this week for halloween/wiccan sabbath...and Friday I had some time so I went to Christophers (the BF). We of course did the usual grunting marathon...but for the second time now he refuses to let me press my lips on his even just for a moment. He says that its too intimate for him and he doesnt like to do that until he's more comfortable with someone, basically someone he's been dating for awhile (to be fair, its only been a few weeks).

So is this common? Maybe every guy I've dated has just been whorish...because kissing has always been the way it all starts. How can kissing be more intimate then 2 bodies naked and tangled up with each other?
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#2 Nov 03 2007 at 5:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Princess Dyadem wrote:
So do you kiss? Or is that to 'personal' for you? The reason I ask...

I was at my friends this week for halloween/wiccan sabbath...and Friday I had some time so I went to Christophers (the BF). We of course did the usual grunting marathon...but for the second time now he refuses to let me press my lips on his even just for a moment. He says that its too intimate for him and he doesnt like to do that until he's more comfortable with someone, basically someone he's been dating for awhile (to be fair, its only been a few weeks).

So is this common? Maybe every guy I've dated has just been whorish...because kissing has always been the way it all starts. How can kissing be more intimate then 2 bodies naked and tangled up with each other?


Are you sure it's not cause your mouth just touched his manhood?
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#3 Nov 03 2007 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
Kissing is an expression of feelings and desire, and is rarely a requirement for sexual stimulation and/or climax. Sex is just a physical action/reaction. Plain and simple. Gay or not.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 8:47pm by StubsOnAsura
#4 Nov 03 2007 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Kissing is an expression of feelings and desire, and is rarely a requirement for sexual stimulation and/or climax. Sex is just a physical action/reaction. Plain and simple. Gay or not.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 8:47pm by StubsOnAsura


Agreed. And while sex can be an expression of feelings and desire, I find kissing to be much more so. And I don't think it's whorish of your previous boyfriends to kiss before sex, but it probably means this guy doesn't feel as emotionally close to you yet.
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TirithRR the Mundane wrote:


Are you sure it's not cause your mouth just touched his manhood?


Listerine helps alot...

Yes I do think about that...but I've tried to kiss him before we even get naked.

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StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Kissing is an expression of feelings and desire, and is rarely a requirement for sexual stimulation and/or climax. Sex is just a physical action/reaction. Plain and simple. Gay or not.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 8:47pm by StubsOnAsura


Agreed. And while sex can be an expression of feelings and desire, I find kissing to be much more so. And I don't think it's whorish of your previous boyfriends to kiss before sex, but it probably means this guy doesn't feel as emotionally close to you yet.


Yes and I understand that well...but its not like I'm asking him to play tonsil hockey...just lips mooshing together for 1 second, to see. I myself hold big stock in kissing (not that if he's a bad kisser I'll dump him). I just find it funny that you can ***** for 4 hours and not kiss once in that time.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 8:53pm by Dyadem
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#6 Nov 03 2007 at 5:51 PM Rating: Excellent
I never kiss prostitutes, either.
#7 Nov 03 2007 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I never kiss prostitutes, either.
I like that movie too...the only problem is I'm doing this pro-bono.
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#8 Nov 03 2007 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally, sounds like affectation to me.
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Ambrya wrote:
Personally, sounds like affectation to me.


So, did I just turn into Flix by asking questions about relationships? I was so bored and excited to be home and finally posting at my own PC again that I just rambled off anything I could think of to make a new thread (and the OoT looked to be really dead...like so dead that my AIDs seems like a good thing).

After googling that word, I think in part you may be correct.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 9:09pm by Dyadem
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#10 Nov 03 2007 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I have heard of this sort of thing before, but it's not something I'm into. I'm going to kiss someone before I ever have sex with them, one night stand or not. but I get that some things just feel more intimate than other things, and sometimes people need to ease into the whole physical intimacy thing, as well as the emotional intimacy thing.

And it can be an important and special personal boundary saver if you have a one night stand or short fling, to have "held yourself back".

One relationship I had with a guy that lasted seven years, I had moved in with him, and it was only six months into living with him that he first actually said out loud "I love you". I hadn't even noticed the lack, I'd just kind of presumed that he did, out of the way that he acted and treated me.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 10:25pm by Aripyanfar
#11 Nov 03 2007 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
All this talk about kissing and love is just silly. Everyone knows that t3h gheys have no souls and therefore cannot experience emotions. Duh. Smiley: rolleyes
#12 Nov 03 2007 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I just asked my best friend/room mate about how she felt on the subject. I can't speak out of personal experience since I've never really been in the situation, but she has slept around and could shine some light on it for me. (Since I was interested too.)

She said she's also the same as Christopher. She simply put it "I love sex. I'm not a big fan of dating. To me, that seems like the first step towards a relationship." So yes, it does seem as though for some people, it's a personal boundary. My wife, although she hasn't slept around much either, agreed with her to a certain extent. She admitted, however, that a simple peck probably wouldn't mean much to her.

So I don't know how much that really helps, but take it as you will.
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#13 Nov 03 2007 at 6:45 PM Rating: Excellent
I agree that kissing is often as much if not more intimate and sensual than intercourse, and that if I can feel a connection with someone I'm likely to spend hours kissing them. I can have sex without kissing, but not with someone I have any connection with; kissing is going to happen then. One of the things that makes us human is that we have evolved to the point where we can have intercourse face-to-face, rather than from behind like an animal. If you ask me, that's one of the reasons why humans are one of the more monogamous creatures on Earth, because we can make eye contact while making love. We can attach a conciousness to the thing we're having sex with, unlike a dog or a sheep, who act purely on instinct and could care less who or what has intercourse with them, so long as they are propogating their species. Humans have sex for so many other reasons.

Now I admit, I've not watched any gay ****. Well, not any with dudes, anyway. So I'm sort of uncertain whether or not men make love face-to-face ever, but I imagine that from a purely mechanical point of view it'd be easier stomach-to-back. I suppose that makes gays slightly less human, and in need of some further evolution.

Okay, that was just added in to be mean, but what I'm saying is, while kissing isn't always more intimate than intercourse, it is always intimate. You don't press your mouth against another human's without some feeling there. Well, unless you're one of those people who just kisses everyone, but once again you're not really human if you're doing that.

In summary, man, I love me some kissing. And sexing, too. And don't forget fUcking. Love to fUck. FUck fUck fUck. Ahhh yeah.
#14 Nov 03 2007 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
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In summary, man, I love me some kissing. And sexing, too. And don't forget fUcking. Love to fUck. FUck fUck fUck. Ahhh yeah.


One might go so far as to say sex includes kissing, but ******* might not.
#15 Nov 04 2007 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
I thought Dyadem was a chick?? What the **** is this? The OoT is a haven for fudgepackers.
#16 Nov 04 2007 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought Dyadem was a chick?? What the sh*t is this? The OoT is a haven for fudgepackers.


Someone hasn't been paying attention lately... Smiley: laugh
#17 Nov 04 2007 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
Smiley: oyvey I think they are outnumbering the "breeders" as they call us.
#18 Nov 04 2007 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
In summary, man, I love me some kissing. And sexing, too. And don't forget fUcking. Love to fUck. FUck fUck fUck. Ahhh yeah.


One might go so far as to say sex includes kissing, but @#%^ing might not.


I guess if they were a virgin they might say that.

Oh wait, you just did.
#19 Nov 04 2007 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
In summary, man, I love me some kissing. And sexing, too. And don't forget fUcking. Love to fUck. FUck fUck fUck. Ahhh yeah.


One might go so far as to say sex includes kissing, but @#%^ing might not.


I guess if they were a virgin they might say that.

Oh wait, you just did.


That's pretty lame for you, BT. Lowering standards, are we?
#20 Nov 04 2007 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
In summary, man, I love me some kissing. And sexing, too. And don't forget fUcking. Love to fUck. FUck fUck fUck. Ahhh yeah.


One might go so far as to say sex includes kissing, but @#%^ing might not.


I guess if they were a virgin they might say that.

Oh wait, you just did.


That's pretty lame for you, BT. Lowering standards, are we?


No, my standards have been ridiculously low for quite some time. I mean, I keep coming back to this forum, don't I?

And I keep fUcking with you.

I never kiss you, though.Smiley: crymore

Anyway, I was being serious. I've had plenty of sex that I would consider "fUcking" where I also kissed her. FUcking is an attitude, Stubs. Smiley: schooled
#21 Nov 04 2007 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyway, I was being serious. I've had plenty of sex that I would consider "fUcking" where I also kissed her. FUcking is an attitude, Stubs. Smiley: schooled


I did say "but @#%^ing might not."

But feel free to poke your finger in my **** without kissing me Smiley: schooled.


Edited, Nov 4th 2007 10:42am by StubsOnAsura
#22 Nov 04 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Excellent
Heheheh, you said "but fUcking".
#23 Nov 04 2007 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Heheheh, you said "but fUcking".
Smiley: tongue
#24 Nov 04 2007 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Heheheh, you said "but fUcking".
Smiley: drool2


Oh dude, ew.
#25 Nov 04 2007 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Heheheh, you said "but fUcking".
Smiley: drool2

So, when you coming over?


Sorry, you're not my type.
#26 Nov 04 2007 at 9:11 AM Rating: Excellent
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
StubsOnAsura the Shady wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Heheheh, you said "but fUcking".
Smiley: drool2

So, when you coming over?


Sorry, you're not my type.


Afraid I'd bruise your cervix, eh?

Yeah, you're probably right.
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