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#1 Oct 27 2007 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
So I'm trying to shake the blues both long-term and short-term in my life right now, and I'm thinking about start St. Johns Wart regiments but I'm not exactly sure if I want to or not. Has anyone seen actual results for St. Johns or is just another way the Hippy Industrial-Complex can take advantage of my wallet. I heard it helps only long-term and nothing short-term but I'm crashing and I need something other than Weed, Salvia, or Alcohol to fix my woes, because I'm pretty sure it's because I've been smoking Salvia more and more.
#2 Oct 27 2007 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
Actually, cannabis is supposed to help with depression (and it *is* natural).
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#3 Oct 27 2007 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
Get high on Christ. If not, I can't really recommend much but exercise (trust me, a week of exercise does wonders for shaking the blues), healthy food and doing something new. Anything, really, just something that you've never done before.

I can't really recommend any herbal remedies for short-term moodlifting, since my own semi-pagan lifestyle is a long-term "remedy". Also, heavy drinking works for me, but I can't recommend that to anyone since it isn't exactly healthy.
#4 Oct 27 2007 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
missjackie wrote:
Actually, cannabis is supposed to help with depression (and it *is* natural).
I've had a bad run with Marijuana and I'm in no way saying that it might help some people, but I assure you that it will do the opposite for me. I can't even get high from weed (And I've tried, trust me)

It's be nice just to sleep for a week Smiley: laugh
#5 Oct 27 2007 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Get high on Christ. If not, I can't really recommend much but exercise (trust me, a week of exercise does wonders for shaking the blues), healthy food and doing something new. Anything, really, just something that you've never done before.
Been doing the exercise thing, eating healthy is a static thing I do and I was rather happy with Bowling with friends the other night which was something semi-new but since thursday I can barely get out of bed and I've been over reacting to minor things on the phone at work.
#6 Oct 27 2007 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
LobsterJohnson the Sly wrote:
missjackie wrote:
Actually, cannabis is supposed to help with depression (and it *is* natural).
I've had a bad run with Marijuana and I'm in no way saying that it might help some people, but I assure you that it will do the opposite for me. I can't even get high from weed (And I've tried, trust me)

It's be nice just to sleep for a week Smiley: laugh


It works great for my pain relief, since I have a bad back. ;) Plus, it gives me the giggles. :)
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#7 Oct 27 2007 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
Meth.
#8 Oct 27 2007 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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Meth.
I'm pretty happy with my weight right now.
#9 Oct 27 2007 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Meth.


Do you want him to ever sleep again? ;)
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#10 Oct 27 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
Just make yourself be happy. Treatment by music.
#11 Oct 27 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
My neighbors take meth, I can tell because they think it's appropriate to do lawn work, and house work with hammers and saws at 3 AM.
#12 Oct 27 2007 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
Your neighbors sound productive. And skinny. And happy.
#13 Oct 27 2007 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Your neighbors sound productive. And skinny. And happy.
If they where so happy, they'd have green cards by now.
#14 Oct 27 2007 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
LobsterJohnson the Sly wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Your neighbors sound productive. And skinny. And happy.
If they where so happy, they'd have green cards by now.


If you don't like the noise at 3AM, report them for not having green cards. ;)
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#15 Oct 27 2007 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
play hellgate london or something, thats new.
#16 Oct 27 2007 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
missjackie wrote:
LobsterJohnson the Sly wrote:
Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
Your neighbors sound productive. And skinny. And happy.
If they where so happy, they'd have green cards by now.


If you don't like the noise at 3AM, report them for not having green cards. ;)
The ones who work during the day are really nice guys they even stole installed my new stereo.

It's really cool they actually make old computers and ship them to a Mexican Donation company that gives computers to Mexican Schools. I've given them many cases and old motherboards Smiley: grin

Edited, Oct 27th 2007 3:25pm by LobsterJohnson
#17 Oct 27 2007 at 1:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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LobsterJohnson the Sly wrote:
My neighbors take meth, I can tell because they think it's appropriate to do lawn work, and house work with hammers and saws at 3 AM.


Maybe it's just Tressant Supreme.

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#18 Oct 27 2007 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not really one for any sort of herbal product. If you are feeling bored, lazy, or depressed I would suggest a change of scenery rather than a change in prescription. Perhaps more hang out time with friends? A new (non MMO) computer to get into? Badminton? If you picked up badminton I would think you were super cool. Write? Draw? Fish? Toe nail collection? Whatever suits your fancy.
#19 Oct 27 2007 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I hate to sound like a stereotypical man, but getting laid is a good way to kick off some depression. Seriously, you can't be depressed for at least two days after that.
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#20 Oct 27 2007 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
LobsterJohnson the Sly wrote:
missjackie wrote:
Actually, cannabis is supposed to help with depression (and it *is* natural).
I've had a bad run with Marijuana and I'm in no way saying that it might help some people, but I assure you that it will do the opposite for me. I can't even get high from weed (And I've tried, trust me)

It's be nice just to sleep for a week Smiley: laugh


How about peyote?
#21 Oct 27 2007 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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To answer your question, if taken correctly St. John's Wort is a very good anti-depressant.

My Parents both took it in place of Paxil
#22 Oct 27 2007 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
My husband took St. Johns Wart for about 6 months. We really didn't think it made a difference. What ultimately made him happy was finding the root problem and taking the steps to fix it.

So what is making you unhappy? Lots of things? One major thing? Make a list, pick an item and start thinking about what you can do to fix it. Some might be easy fixes, some take a lot of time and sometimes giving up things you may not be willing to.
#23 Oct 27 2007 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
St. Johns wart is pretty much worthless in my experience, except as a placebo.

I honestly think treating yourself to something nice every once in a while as a reward for (even slightly) bettering your situation would be a more effective anti-depressant than self medicating with pretty much any herbal remedy you can find. Smiley: nod

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#24 Oct 27 2007 at 11:14 PM Rating: Good
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Taking magic mushrooms:
(1) Start with a low dose.
Never take more than 1 gram of dry magic mushrooms. Wait for 90 minutes. If you feel OK and want to intensify the experience you could take some more.
(2) Make sure there is nothing on your head for the next 24 hours.
No work, no school, no visiting of friends or family, no care for children or pets, JUST NO NOTHING!
(3) Make sure to trip in a relaxed environment.
Busy environments with lots of people and noise may cause an information overload. Choose an environment where you are not bothered by people not involved in the experience. Choose a calm, natural, preferably rural place, where you can enjoy the wonders of nature. Choose a place that is familiar to you, a place you know and where you feel save.
(4) Make sure to trip with people you know, like and trust.
Preferably there should be someone around that is not involved in the experience.


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#25REDACTED, Posted: Oct 28 2007 at 2:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How can you honestly call that an experience? Mush = party drug. The more people the merrier. I've been trippin' balls all night, coincidentally, with a large group of guys and girls from work all in costume for Halloween. If you can't handle the drug, don't do it.
#26 Oct 28 2007 at 3:22 AM Rating: Good
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LobsterJohnson the Sly wrote:
So I'm trying to shake the blues both long-term and short-term in my life right now, and I'm thinking about start St. Johns Wart regiments but I'm not exactly sure if I want to or not. Has anyone seen actual results for St. Johns or is just another way the Hippy Industrial-Complex can take advantage of my wallet. I heard it helps only long-term and nothing short-term but I'm crashing and I need something other than Weed, Salvia, or Alcohol to fix my woes, because I'm pretty sure it's because I've been smoking Salvia more and more.
Short term fix: Get a hold of any comedy you can. Comedy at the cinema, comedy on TV at home, comic strips, comic novels. If you are really depressed it probably won't make you laugh or feel good at all, but it will lift your mood from "deeply depressed" to "less depressed".

Long term fix: Find a therapist or therapy that works for you. I'm a big fan of Dialectical Behavioural Therapy for its statistically proven (long term) effectiveness at "curing" depression and mental illnesses. It's taken you 20 years for your genes and environment to shape the habitual thoughts in your head that are contributing to your depression. Don't expect that you'll be all fixed and better after just a couple of years of therapy.

St Johns Wort does work for some people, to lift their long-term mood while they are on it, but be aware that as a psychoactive chemical, it can interact with other psychoactive medicines. It's extremely important to tell your doctor and especially your therapists that you are on it. Some medications interact dangerously with St Johns wort.

The other thing about St John's Wort is that it makes your skin extremely more sensitive to sun damage. Both the cancerous effect of sun exposure, and the aging effects of sun exposure are greatly heightened. It's extremely important to wear a hat and sunblock on exposed skin surfaces whenever you go outdoors, while you are on St John's Wort. some people find that their skins coarsen a lot while they are on St John's wort.
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