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#77 Oct 25 2007 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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One thing I like about Tasers is that Pro-gun twats no longer has the "I need my .44 to protect myself when I go to sleep!" excuse. A Taser has more than enough range to work just fine in almost any house environment, and does not put themselves or their children, or the neighbours at risk.


Tasers are quite a bit dull, I'd rather make a pull on a gun, only reason being it's lot more fun.

Though I can see tasers being used for some sort of sexual fetish, I think it would be fun to have sex with a woman convulsing like that.
#78 Oct 25 2007 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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#79 Oct 26 2007 at 3:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Speaking of police efficiency, the police in my city here have shot at 15 people in the last seven years and managed to kill every single one of them.

One of them was so dangerous the cop had to shoot him 3 times in the back as he drunkenly walked along the sidewalk. Good work RCPD!!!

While I agree this idiot at the rally should have been cuffed and stuffed, there is NO REASON 6 cops couldn't simply pick this guy up and carry him out the door. If they are so untrained and incompetent they should turn in their badges today.

And as for the "it's tough to be a cop, people dont understand" bullsh*t, forget it. If you didn't know ahead of time that being a cop was a dirty, thankless, stressful task then you, sir, are a moron. That's equivalent to the guy who joined the Army and then wanted out because he didn't want to go to Iraq and kill people!!! "ZOMFG the Army kills people?? I didn't know that!!!"

The larger problem here is that as a nation we are being desensitized to violence directed at the people by the authorities. By what I've read in this post so far, if your mom was leaving the mall with mp3 headphones on and was ordered to stop and didn't, the cops would be justified in tasering her because she "ignored a direct request by a peace officer" an excuse I've seen for tasering more than once.

A cop should use the absolute minimum amount of force in every situation. If he/she is incapable of comprehending that concept, UFC would likely take them.

/rant off
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#80 Oct 26 2007 at 3:56 AM Rating: Good
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brianjweis wrote:
If you didn't know ahead of time that being a cop was a dirty, thankless, stressful task then you, sir, are a moron.


It's one thing to know this ahead of time and entirely another to experience it, I'm sure. Calm down, man.
#81 Oct 26 2007 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
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OK, OK.

I'll amend "you, sir, are a moron" to "you, sir, should have read the manual".

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#82 Oct 26 2007 at 4:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I think it would be fun to have sex with a woman convulsing like that.
How sex the convulsing woman.
#83 Oct 26 2007 at 4:30 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
I think it would be fun to have sex with a woman convulsing like that.
How sex the convulsing woman.


I'm more concerned as to how to avoid the ***** burns when secksing the tasered woman.
#84 Oct 26 2007 at 5:23 AM Rating: Good
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RCPD!!!


Racoon City Police Department?

brianjweis wrote:
While I agree this idiot at the rally should have been cuffed and stuffed, there is NO REASON 6 cops couldn't simply pick this guy up and carry him out the door. If they are so untrained and incompetent they should turn in their badges today.


They are "University" cops you know. You can similarly compare them to officers who sign up for the "Public Relations Officer" or "School Resource Officer" slots.

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And as for the "it's tough to be a cop, people dont understand" bullsh*t, forget it. If you didn't know ahead of time that being a cop was a dirty, thankless, stressful task then you, sir, are a moron. That's equivalent to the guy who joined the Army and then wanted out because he didn't want to go to Iraq and kill people!!! "ZOMFG the Army kills people?? I didn't know that!!!"

Just curious if this was directed towards to me. I never complained about the job and if it wasn't for the lure of better pay and benefits I'd still be a city cop. If it was specifically directed towards me, then... well, you can blow me for all I care. All I did was express my opinions of the situation.

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A cop should use the absolute minimum amount of force in every situation. If he/she is incapable of comprehending that concept, UFC would likely take them.

Yes, cops should use the minimum amount of force to affect an arrest. We don't play fair though. That amount of force will always be one step higher than the subjects. Also, situations will always be fluid and because of that the “Use of Force Continuum” does not force an officer into a set way for escalation of force.
#85 Oct 26 2007 at 5:26 AM Rating: Good
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How sex the convulsing woman.


I'm more concerned as to how to avoid the ***** burns when secksing the tasered woman.


Ever catch the video of the guy getting his balls tased?
#86 Oct 26 2007 at 6:03 AM Rating: Default
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No, Kyoshindi, that was not speciffically directed at you. I have thus far not deliberatly offended anyone in the OoT as I don't know you all well enough yet. [:smiley;]

You may have noticed that at the bottom of my post I wrote /rant off. This was a rant. It derives, i suppose, from the local cops habit of killing folk needlessly and breaking the ribs of pregnant women who have the audacity to actually video tape an arrest.

Really, no offence meant. Let's become friends...then I'll insult you.
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#87 Oct 26 2007 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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Really, no offence meant. Let's become friends...then I'll insult you.


Sounds like a plan.
#88 Oct 26 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Good
I don't care much about your whole rant, but this got me and I had to comment on it:

brianjweis wrote:
And as for the "it's tough to be a cop, people dont understand" bullsh*t, forget it. If you didn't know ahead of time that being a cop was a dirty, thankless, stressful task then you, sir, are a moron. That's equivalent to the guy who joined the Army and then wanted out because he didn't want to go to Iraq and kill people!!! "ZOMFG the Army kills people?? I didn't know that!!!"


Did you ever stop to think that maybe the guy knew they might enter a war and have to kill people if he was in the army, but he didn't believe that killing Iraqi civilians under the guise of protecting the US from the 9/11 terrorists was ethical? Heaven forbid that an army guy try to actually act on his ethics instead of just following orders, right?

#89 Oct 26 2007 at 6:51 AM Rating: Default
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Heaven forbid


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#90 Oct 26 2007 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
I have no problems with the police's actions. As much as you want to say "They could have taken him", I really fail to see how you could feel that there was any injustice in their actions.

The kid sneaked in. He wasn't allowed to be there in the first place. When he was arrested, he struggled. The cops warned him that he'd get tased if he didn't cooperate. He continued to struggle while saying "Don't tase me, bro!" So he got tased. Big deal. All the while being a whiny little brat.

Sorry, but when he started screaming "OWWWWWWWWWWW!!! OWWWWWWWWWWW!!" I really lost any ounce of sympathy I had for him.

Seriously, when you resist arrest, you get tasered. Boo-hoo.

Edited, Oct 26th 2007 1:53pm by Matjlav
#91 Oct 26 2007 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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You may have noticed that at the bottom of my post I wrote /rant off. This was a rant. It derives, i suppose, from the local cops habit of killing folk needlessly and breaking the ribs of pregnant women who have the audacity to actually video tape an arrest.


Your rant was okay, I probably disagree most with what constitutes minimum force. I don't know the circumstances of your city's problems, but just wanted to comment on the fallacy of characterization of victims. In your rant you wrote one was "drunkenly walking", and here you mention a pregnant woman; from the context it sounds like she was abused simply for videotaping something, but I can't see what her being pregnant has to do with it. Other posters throughout the thread have described the tasered guy as a "kid". And the news always mentions the height and weight of a suspected victim of police brutality if the person was small (though they don't mention it if it was a small person who killed 40 people at a school or something). Iffy security checks make sure to point out that it was an old woman who was searched, etc.

They seem to forget a couple of things--that a seeming innocuous person can be either extremely experienced at violence, or that they can also be carrying weapons that completely moot their minor physical differences. And they always assume that if a cop is at least 6 feet tall and 200 lbs, he's a master of hand-to-hand combat who could not be beaten by anyone smaller in the entire world.

And this from your rant:

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By what I've read in this post so far, if your mom was leaving the mall with mp3 headphones on and was ordered to stop and didn't, the cops would be justified in tasering her because she "ignored a direct request by a peace officer" an excuse I've seen for tasering more than once.


First the cases aren't exactly similar, the guy that was tasered was vehemently resisting control. Even while he was saying he'd be good and didn't want to get tasered he was jerking his torso and flailing his arms.

Second I don't care who the person is--white, black, tall, short, male, female, old, young, paraplegic, pro sportsman. If my mom had done the same things as that kid, she should've been tasered too in that situation.

In your hypothetical, the cop should probably physically restrain the MP3 person. But I wouldn't call it overreaction if they tasered them if for some reason they thought a bulge could be a gun, etc. The act of refusing to comply with an order is cause for suspician of itself. And I honestly have zero sympathy for anyone who disobeys a cop's order. If the order is questionable, you can file a complaint after the incident. Of course if the order is clearly criminal, such as take your clothes off and insert this into your mouth, that's a different case. But a routine traffic stop where you're asked to get out of your car, or walking in the mall and being ordered to stop--there's no justification for not complying immediately.

Cops have to have compliance, they simply can't let someone walk by them when they've told that person to stop. They have to use force at times {even on pregnant females and small males!), the only questions are when and how much to use.

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