Remember the tasered protester?Follow

Oh God damn.. ouch

Now I really want one.

In all honesty I don't think I would have tased him. As much as I try and defend them they should have been able to handle him. If I could have taken him down and handcuffed him all four or five of them should have been able to handle him. Then again I would have propably been tagged for excessive force for taking him to the ground.

I probably would have man handled his scrawny *** into cuffs. Really has more to do the massive amount of paperwork you had to do at my last department if you used any kind of force.

If you tased someone you would end up spending the next 8 hours filling out paper work. That also went with using your ASP, OC, or any type of hard hand strikes. In some cases I think it would probably have been easier to just shoot someone.

....... Thank you, Kyoshindi

Well, I look at it this way. Anyone who has seen even a single episode of Cops has probably seen a police officer take someone to the ground and cuff them, and likely not had much if any sympathy for the person getting arrested. It seems a lot more humane, and as many times as I've seen a single cop do it to relatively large men, one scrawny college kid shouldn't warrant electrocution against six officers. Really it just seems like somebody wanted to taze somebody.

In general, I advocate only a very minimal amount of force on people who peaceably resist arrest (non-violent offenders).

Because I care:

Taser C2

And they were going to shoot to kill the kid...?







...seems even more excessive to me o.o

One thing I like about Tasers is that Pro-gun twats no longer has the "I need my .44 to protect myself when I go to sleep!" excuse. A Taser has more than enough range to work just fine in almost any house environment, and does not put themselves or their children, or the neighbours at risk. Not to mention that a stolen Taser will rarely be as harmful to human life as a stolen pistol.

I'm not going to debate the relative merits of this particular case. I wasn't the cops there, and I don't have cop training to arrest someone safely.

What does disturb me is when some members of the general public have some fuzzy concept that tasers are relatively benign. I know someone who was tasered once in the back by police. He blacked out, and woke up a long time afterwards, in the hospital, with severe burns up and down his back. 10 years later, his back is still scarred from the burns.

I'm disappointed they didn't think of that.

Seriously though. You're talking about a very influencial politician and a member of the audience begins acting irrationally. What if he had pulled a gun? That is on top of the priority list in those officer's minds. It's kind of the reason they're there in the first place. Correct me if I'm wrong but, last I checked, politics is one of those "buttons" that tends to push people over the edge.

Ten years is a long time when you are talking about taser technology. That generation of tasers was simply high voltage pain compliance weapons. Those types of tasers could carry as much 10x the voltage of modern tasers and were prone to shorting out (causing serious injuries).


Today’s tasers only use 50,000volts, of which roughly 8,000-10,000 volts actually make it into your body. Although there is still a pain compliance effect it’s not the primary function of Taser International’s models. They use something called NMI impulses. In short the electrical discharge mimics your neural impulse that controls your muscle. All though it appears that someone “locks up” when they are tased, they really do not. What happens is every muscle in their body that is along the path of the current contracts and releases approx. 15 times a sec. Think of it like the work out from hell.

Although it’s painful its primary goal is simply to prohibit the subject from moving. The pain is different for every person. Personally I can be tased and ignore the pain for the most part. I have a very high tolerance for pain, but I still become immobile while under a cycle. I have seen other people break down into tears and scream like a baby before ever receiving a cycle.

Tasers can be used improperly and cause serious injury or death. The are “Less than Lethal Weapons.” When used properly though, they are an invaluable tool.



Edit: FYI, tasers when activated will cycle for 5 seconds automatically and then cut off. The can be reactivated and held on but you won’t see that actually done. Officer will always let the taser cycle. It’s designed so that every time you press the trigger it will cycle for 5 secs and stop.

Also, there is do difference from 5sec ride to a 20 second ride. Same affect, you are just immobilized longer and yes I have done both.

And no... I won’t do it again. Well, maybe the 5 sec ride, but 20 seconds is a long ******* time.


Edited, Oct 25th 2007 9:28am by Kyoshindi

It does happen often enough. More so in cities with large crime/ heavy drug areas. I have had it happened once to me and it sucked big hairy monkey balls.

What typically happens is the guy is so strung out on whatever his choice of poison is and his organs, nervous system, cardiovascular system, and body in general are under immense strain to begin with. Then the guy decides to put up a fight and seeing that he is feeling no pain, his brain never tells him “hey dipsh*t, you’re over exerting yourself… stop!” They literally fight themselves to death.

By the time you have them secured and in the back of the car their body is already begun to shut down and they are still kicking and screaming. It isn’t until they fall quiet that you get that “oh sh*t” feeling. Then you spend the next 72 hours in IA getting grilled with out an attorney present.


Edited, Oct 25th 2007 9:39am by Kyoshindi

Ugh.

I was imagining a physiological reaction to being restrained with a seriously overstimulated nervous system, and wondering if it were purely positional (since you don't hear about the same thing happening to manics in hospital restraints - but would you?). Your explanation makes sense.