http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2244745520071022
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2022794920071020
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1144509820071012
Anyone following the Turkey/US/Iraq triangle of trouble? I'm not seeing the link between Iraq and Turkey, or why the Kurdish rebels would start attacking Turkey at all. What am I missing?
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Meh, let them have it.
We can get them after the post-meal itis sets in.
We can get them after the post-meal itis sets in.
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Who are the PKK?
Founded in the 1970s, the PKK launched an armed struggle against the Turkish government in 1984, calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey. It has since watered down its demands, calling for more cultural rights for Turkey's estimated 15 million Kurds and the release of imprisoned PKK members.
The Turkish government is under increasing pressure to launch an attack against Kurdish guerrillas in northern Iraq after Turkish soldiers were killed in an ambush. Mark Tran looks at the background
Who are the PKK?
Founded in the 1970s, the PKK launched an armed struggle against the Turkish government in 1984, calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey. It has since watered down its demands, calling for more cultural rights for Turkey's estimated 15 million Kurds and the release of imprisoned PKK members.
It suffered a blow in 1999 when its leader, Abdullah Ocalan, was arrested. Last year, Mr Ocalan released a statement from his jail on Imrali island, south of Istanbul, calling for the PKK to begin an unconditional ceasefire after a recent upsurge of violence. More than 30,000 people have died since the conflict began. The PKK is estimated to have about 3,000 fighters in northern Iraq.
How popular is the PKK among Turkey's Kurds?
Although Turkey's ruling Justice and Development (AK) party has recently made political gains in the south-east, many Kurds - and the EU - say the government needs to do a lot more to improve the rights of the country's Kurdish minority. The PKK remains popular with many people there.
The Kurds have a long history of suppression. Estimated to number between 20 million and 25 million, they are the fourth-largest ethnic group in the Middle East and form the most numerous stateless people in the world, spread over regions of Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq. According to one of their sayings, they have "no friends but the mountains".
Founded in the 1970s, the PKK launched an armed struggle against the Turkish government in 1984, calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey. It has since watered down its demands, calling for more cultural rights for Turkey's estimated 15 million Kurds and the release of imprisoned PKK members.
The Turkish government is under increasing pressure to launch an attack against Kurdish guerrillas in northern Iraq after Turkish soldiers were killed in an ambush. Mark Tran looks at the background
Who are the PKK?
Founded in the 1970s, the PKK launched an armed struggle against the Turkish government in 1984, calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey. It has since watered down its demands, calling for more cultural rights for Turkey's estimated 15 million Kurds and the release of imprisoned PKK members.
It suffered a blow in 1999 when its leader, Abdullah Ocalan, was arrested. Last year, Mr Ocalan released a statement from his jail on Imrali island, south of Istanbul, calling for the PKK to begin an unconditional ceasefire after a recent upsurge of violence. More than 30,000 people have died since the conflict began. The PKK is estimated to have about 3,000 fighters in northern Iraq.
How popular is the PKK among Turkey's Kurds?
Although Turkey's ruling Justice and Development (AK) party has recently made political gains in the south-east, many Kurds - and the EU - say the government needs to do a lot more to improve the rights of the country's Kurdish minority. The PKK remains popular with many people there.
The Kurds have a long history of suppression. Estimated to number between 20 million and 25 million, they are the fourth-largest ethnic group in the Middle East and form the most numerous stateless people in the world, spread over regions of Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq. According to one of their sayings, they have "no friends but the mountains".
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I think naturally given the level of lawlessness in Iraq, there is worries among other states in the region who don't want an organized opposition movement to destabilize Turkey and naturally, they'd look at the US, the apparent leadership in Iraq since the Iraqi government itself doesn't have alot of power, especially in the north.
Edited, Oct 22nd 2007 3:34pm by Annabella
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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
Kurds are a minority in both Turkey and Iraq, they have a strong sense of their own culture and customs.
They are located in the northern areas of Iraq and the southeast corner of Turkey. They have wanted to have their own country for years. The Turkish government basically oppresses them kind of badly, and because they want their own country some people form terrorist groups to further this goal. They strike in Turkey and slip across the border into Iraq a no-no place to be for Turkish troops due to it currently being under the control of the US and we haven't said they can come in yet.
They are located in the northern areas of Iraq and the southeast corner of Turkey. They have wanted to have their own country for years. The Turkish government basically oppresses them kind of badly, and because they want their own country some people form terrorist groups to further this goal. They strike in Turkey and slip across the border into Iraq a no-no place to be for Turkish troops due to it currently being under the control of the US and we haven't said they can come in yet.
manwithplanx wrote:
Kurds are a minority in both Turkey and Iraq, they have a strong sense of their own culture and customs.
They are located in the northern areas of Iraq and the southeast corner of Turkey. They have wanted to have their own country for years. The Turkish government basically oppresses them kind of badly, and because they want their own country some people form terrorist groups to further this goal. They strike in Turkey and slip across the border into Iraq a no-no place to be for Turkish troops due to it currently being under the control of the US and we haven't said they can come in yet.
They are located in the northern areas of Iraq and the southeast corner of Turkey. They have wanted to have their own country for years. The Turkish government basically oppresses them kind of badly, and because they want their own country some people form terrorist groups to further this goal. They strike in Turkey and slip across the border into Iraq a no-no place to be for Turkish troops due to it currently being under the control of the US and we haven't said they can come in yet.
Thank you Anna for the historical info, and thanks planx for clearing it up. So it's an up swell in Kurdish rebellion against Turkey, using Iraq as a cover zone... basically some form of warped guerrilla warfare using borders instead of bushes.
Well that sucks. As if we really needed a reason to stay over there any longer.
np my social studies teacher last year (he was a god among teachers) had a whole month long unit on Iraq and like a week of it was spent on the different Minorities and the Shia majority
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