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#52 Oct 22 2007 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Wint wrote:
I'd go so far as to say that a seven year old knows that he got in trouble for something he drew. He may not have even known it was against the rules, and now he's punished for it. He may not hate the people who got him in trouble, but I'm sure he's confused as hell as to why this all happened.


When I was 7, I got pissed at my teacher for taking away my wrist slappy band thingamajig. I'm pretty sure I'd have been enraged at getting suspended for a cartoon I drew... especially if they didn't even catch me doing it in class, but some tight-*** parent reported it after I traded it to my friend.
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#53 Oct 22 2007 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Do you think that kids driven to violence in schools are only done so by incidents that occur in their high school years? What about all the kids in middle school getting caught with guns? Hell I can even recall 3-4 instances where elementary school lockers have been found to contain guns. You don't even have to have a middle school level education to hate someone.

I think you're not giving the average 7 year old enough credit.

Edit: I'll go out on a limb and say that most children are far more intelligent than their parents. Until the school system corrupts their fragile little minds.


There's a world of difference in why a high schooler, middle schooler, and elementary schooler brings a gun to school, Stubs. An elementary student doesn't exactly understand the life altering consequences of what a gun can do.

All of that's not really on topic, by the way.
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#54 Oct 22 2007 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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There's a world of difference in why a high schooler, middle schooler, and elementary schooler brings a gun to school, Stubs. An elementary student doesn't exactly understand the life altering consequences of what a gun can do.

All of that's not really on topic, by the way.


You're right, it's off topic, but does it really matter WHY a kid brings a gun to school? That's usually a question reserved for after the carnage, no?
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#55 Oct 22 2007 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I can has jail time nao preaze?
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#56 Oct 22 2007 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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StubsOnAsura the Wise wrote:
Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
There's a world of difference in why a high schooler, middle schooler, and elementary schooler brings a gun to school, Stubs. An elementary student doesn't exactly understand the life altering consequences of what a gun can do.

All of that's not really on topic, by the way.


You're right, it's off topic, but does it really matter WHY a kid brings a gun to school? That's usually a question reserved for after the carnage, no?


FUck yeah it matters why Smiley: tongue

It's not hard to figure out why a certain age kid brings a gun to school.. we're just unsuccessful in teaching them why they shouldn't. Not that it would stop all of them.. some of them are just sociopaths I'm sure.

I'll go ahead and say what I really believe though. I believe handguns should be made illegal for anyone who's not in law enforcement. There's just no reason why the general populace should be allowed to carry them.
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#57 Oct 22 2007 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
I'll go ahead and say what I really believe though. I believe handguns should be made illegal for anyone who's not in law enforcement. There's just no reason why the general populace should be allowed to carry them.


You're not a fan of hobby shooting, eh?
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#58 Oct 22 2007 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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StubsOnAsura the Wise wrote:
Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
I'll go ahead and say what I really believe though. I believe handguns should be made illegal for anyone who's not in law enforcement. There's just no reason why the general populace should be allowed to carry them.


You're not a fan of hobby shooting, eh?


I am, actually. I love handguns Smiley: lol

But, I'm willing to give it up for more safety. I'd have a hard time agreeing with any reasoning behind us being allowed to own them. I'm so sick of everyone bringing up the God damn Constitution.
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#59 Oct 22 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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That's ok, I can pick you off with my 7mm rifle before you get near enough to hit me with your handgun Smiley: grin Never really cared for handguns myself, but I like target practice.

This is fun to shoot, but kicks like a mule: http://www.gunslocal.com/gunimages/3133.jpg

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#60 Oct 22 2007 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I see. Well if everyone agreed with your opinion, the world *might* be a safer place, but a lot of people do not, myself included. Making something illegal will not keep it out of the criminals' hands, and if they can have them, why shouldn't I be allowed to defend myself equally?
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#61 Oct 22 2007 at 8:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
I'm so sick of everyone bringing up the God damn Constitution.


Oh but if Habeas Corpus comes into play you'd be the first to bring up the "God Damned Constitution". Smiley: oyvey
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#62 Oct 22 2007 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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StubsOnAsura the Wise wrote:
I see. Well if everyone agreed with your opinion, the world *might* be a safer place, but a lot of people do not, myself included. Making something illegal will not keep it out of the criminals' hands, and if they can have them, why shouldn't I be allowed to defend myself equally?


With outlawing easily concealed handguns a new law of extreme punishment would have to come into play to discourage unorganized criminals from carrying them.
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#63 Oct 22 2007 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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That's ok, I can pick you off with my 7mm rifle before you get near enough to hit me with your handgun Never really cared for handguns myself, but I like target practice.

This is fun to shoot, but kicks like a mule: http://www.gunslocal.com/gunimages/3133.jpg


Picked this up for my dad's birthday last year. It's fun as hell, but talk about kicking like a mule...450 Marlin

Edited, Oct 22nd 2007 12:48pm by Kyoshindi
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#64 Oct 22 2007 at 8:59 AM Rating: Default
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
StubsOnAsura the Wise wrote:
I see. Well if everyone agreed with your opinion, the world *might* be a safer place, but a lot of people do not, myself included. Making something illegal will not keep it out of the criminals' hands, and if they can have them, why shouldn't I be allowed to defend myself equally?


With outlawing easily concealed handguns a new law of extreme punishment would have to come into play to discourage unorganized criminals from carrying them.


http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm

Please tell me what number II is? I seem to have forgotten.


Point is, freedom of religion was pretty damn important to our founding fathers. Next would be freedom to bare arms. As was number VIII.


Protip: Read number VIII

Edited, Oct 22nd 2007 9:59am by Rimesume
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#65 Oct 22 2007 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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I forgot to take into account that America and the cultures/society within are exactly the same as when the Constitution was written.

My bad. I wish times changed every now and then Smiley: frown
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#66 Oct 22 2007 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
I wish times changed every now and then Smiley: frown


Why?
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#67 Oct 22 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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Sarcasm.....
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#68 Oct 22 2007 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
I forgot to take into account that America and the cultures/society within are exactly the same as when the Constitution was written.

My bad. I wish times changed every now and then Smiley: frown



You're sarcasm is right, but where I am standing is about culture where both past and present play an equal part in.


Enough people love their guns for the amendment to stay as is, that should speak in decibels about both the past and present societies.
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#69 Oct 22 2007 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
Sarcasm.....


Ditto.
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#70 Oct 22 2007 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
You're sarcasm is right, but where I am standing is about culture where both past and present play an equal part in.


Enough people love their guns for the amendment to stay as is, that should speak in decibels about both the past and present societies.


The mere consideration of someone wanting to keep their handgun so they can occasionally hit the shooting range/gravel pit with cans and bottles being acceptable eludes me. That's just plain selfish.

A safer society in general is a bit more important than gun enthusiasts gettin' their kicks.
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#71 Oct 22 2007 at 9:12 AM Rating: Default
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
The mere consideration of someone wanting to keep their handgun so they can occasionally hit the shooting range/gravel pit with cans and bottles being acceptable eludes me. That's just plain selfish American.


fixed.
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#72 Oct 22 2007 at 9:14 AM Rating: Default
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
You're sarcasm is right, but where I am standing is about culture where both past and present play an equal part in.


Enough people love their guns for the amendment to stay as is, that should speak in decibels about both the past and present societies.


The mere consideration of someone wanting to keep their handgun so they can occasionally hit the shooting range/gravel pit with cans and bottles being acceptable eludes me. That's just plain selfish.

A safer society in general is a bit more important than gun enthusiasts gettin' their kicks.



That's where you miss the point. America has never been about the greater whole, it's always been about the individual. It's always been about individual rights, liberties, and privileges.

Welcome to America 101, if you don't like it, go to Canada, vote to change it, or run for a public position.
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#73 Oct 22 2007 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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StubsOnAsura the Wise wrote:
Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
The mere consideration of someone wanting to keep their handgun so they can occasionally hit the shooting range/gravel pit with cans and bottles being acceptable eludes me. That's just plain selfish American.


fixed.


Smiley: laugh Can't argue that I guess.
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#74 Oct 22 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Default
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Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
Welcome to America 101, if you don't like it, run for a public position, vote for Canada, and go to hell.
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#75 Oct 22 2007 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:
Dread Lord Rimesume wrote:
You're sarcasm is right, but where I am standing is about culture where both past and present play an equal part in.


Enough people love their guns for the amendment to stay as is, that should speak in decibels about both the past and present societies.


The mere consideration of someone wanting to keep their handgun so they can occasionally hit the shooting range/gravel pit with cans and bottles being acceptable eludes me. That's just plain selfish.

A safer society in general is a bit more important than gun enthusiasts gettin' their kicks.



That's where you miss the point. America has never been about the greater whole, it's always been about the individual. It's always been about individual rights, liberties, and privileges.


You're right. That's 100% true.

However, truth does not always mean it's not complete bullShit.
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#76 Oct 22 2007 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Kaain the Irrelevant wrote:

However, truth does not always mean it's not complete bullShit.


That's where your power of vote or running for public office comes in. However, don't fool yourself into believing everyone is willing to adapt to your socialist borderline communist point of view.
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