Idiocy in the school system example #3487Follow

On the other hand, if my child draws a picture of George Washington crossing the Delaware in an Apache helicopter, mowing down Islamo-fascists while Thomas Jefferson kills Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with a copy of the Constitution fired from an RPG...

...well, that's American and as bad-*** as it gets.

Oh Joph, you forgot the ICBM's.

That's a different picture. Alexander Hamilton is wearing a jetpack and physically wrestling an ICMB to turn it back towards China.

FTFY.

I don't see the big deal here.

I mean, the mother actually going the distance to complain about a picture drawn by such a young child after the fact is a little much, but still. Who cares if kids aren't able to draw pictures of guns in school? Do you honestly think they're going to turn out differently?

The entire issue is rather simple, yet everyone wants to pick at it. There's been a gun/violence problem in schools for a few years now.. so they've instated a zero tolerance policy. Zero tolerance often means taking certain situations to the extreme to be made as an example. So the little boy didn't get to go to class and color outside the lines one day.. let's get upset about it.

What's the big deal?

The big deal in this thread is that we're appalled by the stupidity of the situation, one which it seems the majority of us agree is incredibly ridiculous. No kid should be suspended for drawing a gun. If they REALLY think he's showing signs of violent tendencies, get him some counseling, but ffs, kicking him out of school for a stupid picture will only serve to fuel any violent tendencies or hatred for the system that may already lie deep within.


OK I waited 60 seconds before reposting this. If Alla double posts me I'mma chew through my desk.

**** on alla.

And also, the lack of common sense in this country and the inability of most of it's citizens to think outside of a "step by step" guide to life (i.e. "Zero Tolerance! Suspend the kid!") is what fuels most of my cynicism.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2007 10:56am by StubsOnAsura

Zero tolerance often means taking certain situations to the extreme to be made as an example. So the little boy didn't get to go to class and color outside the lines one day.. let's get upset about it.

What's the big deal?

Because Art is possibly the biggest piece of cultural evidence.


This type of Zero Tolerance discourages Art which should, IMO, be an atrocity in itself.

Where would Da Vinci be with restrictions to art? How about Michaelangelo? Beethoven? Bach? Where would the world be without these men?

NO MORE ***** IN PAINTING OR STATUE!

I agreed with saying it was silly that the mother went to such lengths. BUT, she did.. she brought it to the school's attention and I support who ever made the decision to suspend the kid. Obviously, the child isn't capable of understanding why he's going to miss a day of school and it serves absolutely no purpose in teaching him a lesson. It does, however, send a message to the upper classes that guns (in any form or fashion) will not be tolerated in the school.

Violence in schools has steadily been getting worse. Not one of us are surprised to read about a school shooting anymore. It's more of a reaction nowadays.



You can't be serious, Rime. Zero tolerance on a single issue isn't going to deprive the world of the next great artist. I have a hard time believing you mean any of that.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2007 11:07am by Kaain

I don't believe that it is going to stop it, as artists have rarely been popular in history, but I do believe it discourages it.

What sort of mentality do you consider a seven-year-old to have?

Develop a hatred for the system? What?

I'll go out on a limb and say he's probably not going to be gang banging out in the streets on his day off, but rather at home.. with a parent. A parent that is very capable of sitting him down and explaining to him why this is happening.

A parent who probably had to take the day off work.