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#1 Oct 20 2007 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
#2 Oct 20 2007 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
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"Oh, my god," Rowling concluded with a laugh, "the fan fiction."


Save us! Smiley: lol
#3 Oct 20 2007 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The gays are now recruiting powerful wizards. +1 for gays.


Edited, Oct 20th 2007 10:46am by tarubstchef
#4 Oct 20 2007 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
This thread should be called Dumblenix

or

Dumbledore rapes Ikkian on page 538

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 11:08am by LobsterJohnson
#5 Oct 20 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Publicity + 1 for J.K.

God I hate this woman.
#6 Oct 20 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Galkaman wrote:

God I hate this woman.


I sense jealously.
#7 Oct 20 2007 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:

God I hate this woman.


I sense jealously.


You do? So it's not because there are many better writers out there more deserving of her money than she is? Huh.
#8 Oct 20 2007 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
Galkaman wrote:
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:

God I hate this woman.


I sense jealously.


You do? So it's not because there are many better writers out there more deserving of her money than she is? Huh.
Yeah, but America is fresh out of great writers, we had to borrow your countries best for a while.
#9 Oct 20 2007 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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Galkaman wrote:
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:

God I hate this woman.


I sense jealously.


You do? So it's not because there are many better writers out there more deserving of her money than she is? Huh.


You mean writers that can successfully captivate a large variety of age groups with an intriguing premise, sympathetic characters, and an old fashioned enjoyable good vs. evil storyline?

I guess not.
#10 Oct 20 2007 at 9:41 AM Rating: Default
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Yeah, but America is fresh out of great writers, we had to borrow your countries best for a while.
Why did you take her then?

If you wanted a good British writer you should have taken Peter F Hamilton.
#11 Oct 20 2007 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
They mean they needed to take something the vast majority of the United States could understand, because the average IQ there is totally under 80. Smiley: schooled
#12 Oct 20 2007 at 10:14 AM Rating: Default
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:

God I hate this woman.


I sense jealously.


You do? So it's not because there are many better writers out there more deserving of her money than she is? Huh.


You mean writers that can successfully captivate a large variety of age groups with an intriguing premise, sympathetic characters, and an old fashioned enjoyable good vs. evil storyline?

I guess not.


The only feelings I had for any characters in that book was disdain, and later on a hope they'd die. And to be fair, it's not really a good vs evil storyline... it's everyone is out to get Harry Potter storyline.

To be perfectly honest, I can't see why Harry Potter is such a big thing.
#13 Oct 20 2007 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Galkaman wrote:
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:
DodoBird wrote:
Galkaman wrote:

God I hate this woman.


I sense jealously.


You do? So it's not because there are many better writers out there more deserving of her money than she is? Huh.


You mean writers that can successfully captivate a large variety of age groups with an intriguing premise, sympathetic characters, and an old fashioned enjoyable good vs. evil storyline?

I guess not.


The only feelings I had for any characters in that book was disdain, and later on a hope they'd die. And to be fair, it's not really a good vs evil storyline... it's everyone is out to get Harry Potter storyline.

To be perfectly honest, I can't see why Harry Potter is such a big thing.


That doesn't mean it isn't a big thing, you just didn't jump on the Harry Potter bandwagon (neither did I.)

It got my son to read a damn big book when he was 10, and she makes buttloads of money, so I guess she's doing something right.

I really don't understand the "she sold out" or "she has no artistic value" comments people make about her. I mean, you write because you want people to read it and make money, right? So, sounds like she's a success whether you like her or not.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 2:20pm by KassandrahKnight
#14 Oct 20 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Default
KassandrahKnight wrote:

That doesn't mean it isn't a big thing, you just didn't jump on the Harry Potter bandwagon (neither did I.)

It got my son to read a damn big book when he was 10, and she makes buttloads of money, so I guess she's doing something right.

I really don't understand the "she sold out" or "she has no artistic value" comments people make about her. I mean, you write because you want people to read it and make money, right? So, sounds like she's a success whether you like her or not.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 2:20pm by KassandrahKnight


I'm not debating that she's a success. She is now richer than the Queen, I believe. However, the book was averge at best. It's one of those things that I'll never understand, because there are better writers that recieve very little credit for their work.

My best theory so far is that most people have the reading age of a five-year old and just can't read anything much more complicated.
#15 Oct 20 2007 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
Galkaman wrote:
I'm not debating that she's a success. She is now richer than the Queen, I believe.
|Is the queen even rich?
#16 Oct 20 2007 at 10:51 AM Rating: Default
Sillygooose wrote:
Galkaman wrote:
I'm not debating that she's a success. She is now richer than the Queen, I believe.
|Is the queen even rich?


Hereditary German money of some sort + revenue from diplomacy and taxes, I think.
#17 Oct 20 2007 at 10:57 AM Rating: Excellent
This is what pisses me off about the "I Hate Harry Potter" bandwagon. (Because we all know it's "cooler" to hate Harry Potter than to like the books, right?)

Galkaman wrote:
However, the book was averge at best. It's one of those things that I'll never understand, because there are better writers that recieve very little credit for their work.

My best theory so far is that most people have the reading age of a five-year old and just can't read anything much more complicated.


What the hell, Galka? That's an opinion. It's certainly not a fact. The amount of talent an author exudes is strictly limited to the opinion of someone reading her work. I find Rowling to be a fine writer, the Potter books were intriguing and I enjoyed them very, very much. That does not mean that I have the "reading age of a five year old." I also have enjoyed The Scarlet Letter, Silas Marner, Beowulf, and I can never get enough Shakespeare.

I am not a moron simply because I enjoy reading about an adolescent wizard and his friends. I understand that your online persona is that you hate everyone and everything, but making such generalized insults simply because you are bitter that a book has reached world wide acclaim and you just can't get into it is ignorant at best.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 1:58pm by Belkira

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 1:59pm by Belkira
#18 Oct 20 2007 at 11:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira, here I am trying to be subtle and you have to come in and ruin all of my fun. Smiley: mad

Never going to get the 4th star at this rate. Smiley: glare
#19 Oct 20 2007 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
DodoBird wrote:
Belkira, here I am trying to be subtle and you have to come in and ruin all of my fun. Smiley: mad

Never going to get the 4th star at this rate. Smiley: glare


Smiley: frown Sorry. I just hate being insulted simply because I like a book that someone else doesn't. Seems arrogant to me.
#20 Oct 20 2007 at 11:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
DodoBird wrote:
Belkira, here I am trying to be subtle and you have to come in and ruin all of my fun. Smiley: mad

Never going to get the 4th star at this rate. Smiley: glare


Smiley: frown Sorry. I just hate being insulted simply because I like a book that someone else doesn't. Seems arrogant to me.


Well, so long as I'm given a reason to POST MOAR I guess I don't really mind.
#21 Oct 20 2007 at 11:08 AM Rating: Default
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
What the hell, Galka? That's an opinion. It's certainly not a fact. The amount of talent an author exudes is strictly limited to the opinion of someone reading her work. I find Rowling to be a fine writer, the Potter books were intriguing and I enjoyed them very, very much. That does not mean that I have the "reading age of a five year old." I also have enjoyed The Scarlet Letter, Silas Marner, Beowulf, and I can never get enough Shakespear.

I am not a moron simply because I enjoy reading about an adolescent wizard and his friends. I understand that your online persona is that you hate everyone and everything, but making such generalized insults simply because you are bitter that a book has reached world wide acclaim and you just can't get into it is ignorant at best.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 1:58pm by Belkira


Who said it was a fact? Everything I voice on this board is my opinion, unless sources are cited.

And talent, while affected by, is not limited to the perciever. You can acknowledge someone has talent even if you don't like them. And yes, this woman has a talent; she has managed to get a hold of millions of readers. However, I found her writing to be boring and lackluster. I acknowledge her right to be rich, because she's very good at something. I just don't believe it was her writing. I just believe it's because people have limited experience of truly great writing.

The 5 year old comment is because people read Harry Potter and think they read fantasy. Then they move back to their biographies of pop stars and think themselves of a wider mind. That's not how it works, and it really pisses me off that just because Harry Potter is the popular fantasy book people read that and think they've read everything without giving the wider genre a chance.

The fact that I can't get into it is irrelevant. I read the first four Harry Potter books and fell asleep during the first movie. It's that people ignore greater works.

And yes, I have met people like this. I have in fact met (in real life) only two other people who read regularly, and one of those is my mother. However, a lot of people picked up HP. Now don't get me wrong, this is great. It's fantastic that it got people to read.

What's not so good that they then think they qualify as being intellectual and @#%^ off reading anything else for the next twenty years.

Maybe it was ignorant. When it comes to things that get my goat I rarely stop to think. Doesn't mean I understand that mindset any better though.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 3:09pm by Galkaman
#22 Oct 20 2007 at 11:10 AM Rating: Excellent
Galkaman wrote:
It's that people ignore greater works.
Well, if you want to measure greatness by success...
#23 Oct 20 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Default
Codyy wrote:
Galkaman wrote:
It's that people ignore greater works.
Well, if you want to measure greatness by success...


Good point. But then Microsoft Windows is the most successful OS. I've not met anybody yet that would say it's great.
#24 Oct 20 2007 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
Galkaman wrote:
I acknowledge her right to be rich, because she's very good at something. I just don't believe it was her writing. I just believe it's because people have limited experience of truly great writing.


The thing that gets me is that, with or without Rowling and her Potter books, the great authors you are sad aren't getting worldwide acclaim still wouldn't get worldwide acclaim, and the people who have limited experience of "truly great writing" still aren't going to experience "truly great" writing.

And yet, it is still a matter of opinion whether or not the people who have read Rowlings work have experienced "great writing."

Galkaman wrote:
The 5 year old comment is because people read Harry Potter and think they read fantasy. Then they move back to their biographies of pop stars and think themselves of a wider mind. That's not how it works, and it really pisses me off that just because Harry Potter is the popular fantasy book people read that and think they've read everything without giving the wider genre a chance.


I don't see why that pisses you off. Honestly, I don't. They don't think that they are reading fantasy. They are reading fantasy. Harry Potter is a book in the fantasy genre. And I think more often than not, when someone picked up the Potter books and enjoyed them, they were more open to the Fantasy genre in general.

Galkaman wrote:
And yes, I have met people like this. I have in fact met (in real life) only two other people who read regularly, and one of those is my mother. However, a lot of people picked up HP. Now don't get me wrong, this is great. It's fantastic that it got people to read.

What's not so good that they then think they qualify as being intellectual and @#%^ off reading anything else for the next twenty years.


It's extremely sad that you only know two other people who read regularly. Almost every single person close to me reads regularly, when they can. (I say "when they can" because my friend is now a mother to two toddlers so she doesn't read as much as she likes, and my brother is now a father, so he can't read as much as he likes.) I don't see how someone can read the Potter books and find themselves qualified to be an "intellectual" when everyone keeps pushing the fact that these are "Children's Books."

And if they want to ********** off reading anything else for the next twenty years," so ******* what? Not everyone enjoys reading. And that's ok, too. I find it sad, but that's me being a ****.

#25 Oct 20 2007 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
Yes, it's up to them not to read. But they tell you they read and the only book in their CV is Harry Potter, it really saddens me.

Belkira wrote:
I don't see why that pisses you off. Honestly, I don't. They don't think that they are reading fantasy. They are reading fantasy. Harry Potter is a book in the fantasy genre. And I think more often than not, when someone picked up the Potter books and enjoyed them, they were more open to the Fantasy genre in general.


I find the opposite. They either assume all fantasy books are like Harry Potter and so ignore them, or treat them with disdain because "they aren't as popular so they aren't as good." I even had someone apply that to Mr King's Dark Tower series once. Boy was I pissed.

Belkira wrote:
The thing that gets me is that, with or without Rowling and her Potter books, the great authors you are sad aren't getting worldwide acclaim still wouldn't get worldwide acclaim, and the people who have limited experience of "truly great writing" still aren't going to experience "truly great" writing.

And yet, it is still a matter of opinion whether or not the people who have read Rowlings work have experienced "great writing."


True on both counts.
#26 Oct 20 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
Galkaman wrote:
To be perfectly honest, I can't see why Harry Potter is such a big thing.


Ditto. It's like mob mentality, but for reading. Maybe it would have been ok at 2-3 books, but after that, she's just milking a cash cow, and the fact that people continue to support it just tweaks my nipples.
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