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#27 Oct 19 2007 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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Man, that is so perfect. Don't you hate it when you're sitting in bed and you see something you want to shoot, but you have to get up and walk across the room to find your gun, and by that time it's already gone? That's so goddamn annoying.

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more people are shot with guns in the ME and Africa then in the US.

Did you just suggest that things are cool because they're not as bad as they are in the Middle East and South Africa?

And aren't you a karate master? What do you need guns for?
#28 Oct 19 2007 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Why are americans so keen on guns?
More civilians get shot in america every year than the entire rest of the world put together.
When it makes it possible for kids to play with their parent's guns and shoot themselves or their friends, how can that be good?
Why do you see people supporting the right to bear arms after school shootings and other outrages?
It makes violent crime easier. It is easier and less frightening to point a gun at someone while robbing them. Having to use a knife makes you think about the action and consequences more. It is too easy to pull a trigger when in the grip of an adrenalin rush and is harder to survive getting shot than being stabbed.

Not trying to america-bash, just genuinely curious.


First off most of those kids that shot themselves, are the hell spawn of those suburban soccer moms, whose mommy and daddy buy the gun cuz a black family moved in down the street and they need to feel safe.


The Singal and BEST form of gun control is in education and trainig with guns, I have been shooting since I was about 8 or 9 and learned before that that guns wee dangerous was taught by my parents that I was not to touch them and I knew they were there. Most fo the time If a kid gets hurt with one, it was hidden by the parents, DAmmit tell your kids it is there let them knoe the fucking dangers of it, Hell let them shoot it, then put it where it is accesiable but not.


Just because a dumbass kids shoots up a school we need to ban guns? Okay I play your game. The next a drunk kills a person wiht a car, Lets ban gas, that, in the end is what made it possible to commit the crime right. It is not guns that kil people, it is not people that kill people. it is the dumbass that has no clue that kills people with said gun, knife, cynder block, fire poker, broken beer bottle,fists, poison ect. ect. Lets ban all of those to, in fact any thing that can kill lets ban it. Let us go around wrapped in bubble wrap as to not kill wiht that, oh wait we could suffocate someone with bubble wrap. It is time we blame people for killing people not the devices used to kill them. It takes HUMAN action to kill, It all starts with you.
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#30 Oct 19 2007 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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IMO, you left off sport/target shooting, Allegory.

Allegory wrote:
2. Hunting. In my opinion this is the single most rational argument someone could put forth as to why they should own a gun, for recreational purposes. I still disagree with it though. If one really enjoys hunting so much why not give bow hunting a chance? It is closer to traditional rifle hunting than most other forms and involves more skill.


Bow hunting looks like fun to me. Bow fishing is tons of fun(didn't catch anything, but it was fun as hell).

Though part of me still wants to try spear hunting. Not that I think it's legal anywhere, but I'd still like to try it.
#31 Oct 19 2007 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Though part of me still wants to try spear hunting. Not that I think it's legal anywhere, but I'd still like to try it.


Is there some reason there would be a law against poking at fish in shallow water with a stick?

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#32 Oct 19 2007 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont wanna play the quote add argue game so endure with me. First off, I am a huge fan of gun control, should there be background checks, YES. Should there be certain guns you cant own without a permit, YES. I dont know about other states as I only have my permit in Souh Carolina, but to get a hunting permit you have to take a Hunters saftey course, I got my permit at such an early age that this was not required for me, and that needs to change.


As for bow hunting, I bow hunt. I suck at it but I do it, rifels and handgund in my opinion are more humane. I would bow hunt more if I could afford a left handed bow, I enjoy the skill of it. I dont own a gun that I have no real use for, I have a .50 cal muzzel loader, 44 semi auto rifel, a 30-30, a 270, and a 5.5x6.5 swedish mowzer(sp) modified for close contact shooting (I had the barrel shortend, synthetic stock and scope rail added) I also have a .45 semi auto pistol and an array of .22's and pellet guns.


But I should be allowed to purchase and own (legally) any gun I wish, as long I can get a permit for it. If and when I have children I WILL have guns in the house, and I WILL teach them how to use it when I feel they are mature enough to do so, and before that I will tell them it is there and they are not to touch it or mess with it unless I am around.

I was not trying to push the "guns dont kill people crap" They do, but in the end it is a Human factor, same as Arson, same as Rape, same as Theft, Same as hate, same as telling your neighbor to @#%^ off. Yes, register all guns do it when they are made where said gun gets shipped to where and all that BS.


It is human nature to take what is needed, way back when we used clubs, later on we moved up to blades, rockets and gunpowder from asia, and then to guns. Hell in the next 50 years possibly lazers. Saying a firearm is reason is like saying a match is the reason or a tank of gas is the reason. We are taught in our teen years that drinking and driving kills people. Whay not add some Human control on that. The people that blame In-annimante objects for bad thing that happen make me sick, it is a cop-out, nothing less. It is easier to blame someone else than take blame.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 1:33am by jackjeckel

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 1:49am by jackjeckel
#33 Oct 19 2007 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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StubsOnAsura the Wise wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Though part of me still wants to try spear hunting. Not that I think it's legal anywhere, but I'd still like to try it.


Is there some reason there would be a law against poking at fish in shallow water with a stick?

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I don't think spear fishing is illegal. I meant something more like hunting deer with one.
#34 Oct 19 2007 at 10:54 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't think spear fishing is illegal. I meant something more like hunting deer with one.



oooooh.. see my brain saw the word spear and automatically replaced hunting with fishing.. makes a little more sense now Smiley: grin
#35 Oct 19 2007 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I was not trying to push the "guns dont kill people crap" They do, but in the end it is a Human factor, same as Arson, same as Rape, same as Theft, Same as hate, same as telling your neighbor to @#%^ off. Yes, register all guns do it when they are made where said gun gets shipped to where and all that BS.

People will always make choices, but certain items can make it easier for them than others. If a kid decided to go on a rampage and beat a student to death at school he might find it a little difficult. He could be tackled by other people, the victim could run away, or the victim could possibly overpower him. If the kid decided to shoot a student to death there is little anyone can do about it aside from preventing the gun from ever entering the school.

Fire arms provide opportunities that individuals would otherwise not have.

Edited, Oct 20th 2007 2:44am by Allegory
#36 Oct 19 2007 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
I am not going to start talking about my own feelings on the Gun Control matter. I've done so repeatedly in the past, and my stance is quite unpopular with the average American. But there is one thing I am going to ask. There are actually more Guns per family in Canada than there is in the United States. And a mere fraction of the violent crimes/shootings/murders compared to the US.

Something is fUcked up in your country.
#37 Oct 20 2007 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
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Something is fUcked up in your country.


I watched something once that suggested it had something to do with the sensationalism of the news around here. I don't remember what, I don't remember when, but I have a vague recollection of it.
#38 Oct 20 2007 at 6:41 AM Rating: Good
Why do you people even need a gun for protection?I have never needed to protect myself with any weapon, nor did my parents, my grandparents, the rest of my family or my friends. When I open the newspapers, I've never read about burglars who murder and rape innocent citizens at night while pillaging houses.

Is the American culture that violent? Or are most gun owners paranoid because all the sensational news reports about violence? Or are there certain people that don't feel manly enough when they don't own at least two shotguns?
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#40 Oct 20 2007 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
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How is that even legal? America really is backwards when it comes to gun safety.

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Booooo!!!!!

I own a Glock 33 .357 with 6 fully loaded +1 clips in a gunmat I carry around in my car. And also own a nice little .40 Baby Eagle(my baby) with 2 clips.

But I don't go around shooting ppl or leave it laying around my house for the little kiddies to pick up and play with. Even if I had to leave my pistols in my house, I have a gunlock for each and me with the only keys to them. And I hide the clips, and dismantle the pistols scatter most of the parts and carry certian parts with me if I have to leave the house with a Babysitter there. It literally only takes 5 secs to dismantle each pistol and take key parts out of them, to ensure they are not used.

And seriously, why in the hell do ppl feel the need to leave a gun with a round in the chamber laying around??? That is just plain stupidity, and I feel no sympathy for those who do such and something bad happens. Gun Safety 101: Do not leave live rounds in the chamber......

It takes literally 1 sec to **** a gun to inject a round into the chamber. With the exception of Rifles, most pistols I have handled are far to hard for a child to load a round, so why does anyone feel the need to leave a loaded gun laying around??? Or a rifle with rounds laying next to it????? Just dumb......
#41 Oct 20 2007 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
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$40 for something you could make in your garage for less than three dollars.

Only in America.


No kidding. Who could be gyped into buying that?

But what really makes me laugh is the rednecks who insist on keeping a shotgun for their own security, yet ride around in the back of their truck with no seatbelt on. Now let's compare the number killed by violent crimes to the number killed by car accidents..
#42 Oct 20 2007 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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There is nothing wrong with keeping a gun near your bed. Chances are if somebody breaks into your house they will have at least a knife, maybe even a gun. I would rather at least stand a chance at fighting back rather then wadded up in a fetal position wondering if I am going to be killed or not. You can't count on the cops to be there in time to save you.

However mounting it on the side of your bed is just kinda tacky. I keep a pistol in a cabinet beside my pet. I don't have any kids in the house so it is easily accessible. If I had kids in the house I would probably hide it a little better, or perhaps take the clip out. The way this gun is made you have to **** it back and it takes a fair amount of power to do so. I doubt a small child would even have the knowledge nor the strength to do it really.

Just because an American keeps a gun beside their bed at night does not mean they are a redneck or dangerous. I noticed alot of people seem to look at America like its an old western or something.
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#43 Oct 20 2007 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
haha when it first started I thought "Heh funny JOKE commercial that isn't real" but then it looked to real for me so I check the site wow... I could make that myself if I wanted to out of leftover crap around the house
#44 Oct 20 2007 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
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Just because an American keeps a gun beside their bed at night does not mean they are a redneck or dangerous. I noticed alot of people seem to look at America like its an old western or something.
Keeping a gun next to your bed means you are a paranoid person. Let's just say on the off chance that you get a burglar in your house. The chances of that happening is pretty much nonexistant, but let's just say it happens.

The burglar is after money, or something to sell for money. Not your life. You will in most cases have no need to defend yourself. As soon as the burglar hears any kind of activity, he will flee since he is after money, not a fight. If you threaten with a gun however, he will feel obliged to defend himself if he should happen to be armed. This will mean someone is getting hurt. Which wouldn't have to happen, if you just leave the damn paranoia and GI Joe complex behind.
#45 Oct 20 2007 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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Elderon wrote:
How is that even legal? America really is backwards when it comes to gun safety.

Smiley: disappointed



Booooo!!!!!

I own a Glock 33 .357 with 6 fully loaded +1 clips in a gunmat I carry around in my car. And also own a nice little .40 Baby Eagle(my baby) with 2 clips.

But I don't go around shooting ppl or leave it laying around my house for the little kiddies to pick up and play with. Even if I had to leave my pistols in my house, I have a gunlock for each and me with the only keys to them. And I hide the clips, and dismantle the pistols scatter most of the parts and carry certian parts with me if I have to leave the house with a Babysitter there. It literally only takes 5 secs to dismantle each pistol and take key parts out of them, to ensure they are not used.

And seriously, why in the hell do ppl feel the need to leave a gun with a round in the chamber laying around??? That is just plain stupidity, and I feel no sympathy for those who do such and something bad happens. Gun Safety 101: Do not leave live rounds in the chamber......


It takes literally 1 sec to **** a gun to inject a round into the chamber. With the exception of Rifles, most pistols I have handled are far to hard for a child to load a round, so why does anyone feel the need to leave a loaded gun laying around??? Or a rifle with rounds laying next to it????? Just dumb......


Note the bolded part of your post. This is what my post was pertaining to. I am also a registered gun owner but I would never leave a loaded gun right next to my bed for one of my kids to get to blow their own heads off with. That's what the device noted in the OP allows you to do, hence my comment.

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#47 Oct 20 2007 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default
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Learntospellidiot.... O.O

I was only saying "Booo!!!" to your comment!! I didn't see anything else you had written, so please don't get mad. Which is why I only quoted what I did.
#48 Oct 20 2007 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Elderon wrote:
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Learntospellidiot.... O.O

I was only saying "Booo!!!" to your comment!! I didn't see anything else you had written, so please don't get mad. Which is why I only quoted what I did.
So you somehow disagree with my comment even though I included an irrefutable supporting argument? Yes, that's a brilliant deduction there Watson.
#49 Oct 20 2007 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
Their PR people need to be fired. Smiley: nod
I could make a better ad than that.


Hows this:
"THE BACK UP - For the times your partner screaming durring climax just isn't loud enough."
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#51 Oct 20 2007 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I would like to see somebody kill a deer with a spear. Im sure it could be done, but not very likely. There was this guy I went to school with and he swears he jumped out of a tree and stabbed a deer and wrestled it down to the ground. He was pretty brute but I think he was full of sh*t.
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