Black people are dumb pt. 2Follow

Not quite, Damien has to try to prove that individually they are all lazy still, one at a time.

Come back next year maybe?

I don't think Santa delivers happiness to poor lazy people. Only to people who work hard.

Santa is actually a poor underpaid social worker. Thats why you're not getting presents this year.

lmao

Edited, Oct 24th 2007 2:55pm by StubsOnAsura

Damien, really, the suggestion that African Americans are at a disadvantage not because of social and environmental factors but because of some entirely theoretical and empirically unsupported notion that it's in their genes, is laughable.

Science works from the bottom up.

I'll humor you though. Let's suppose that black people are, in general, lazy. There are any number of explanations for this, notwithstanding genetics. Are the parents hardworking? Do they encourage, or demand that their children be hardworking? Historically, does working hard demonstrate positive outcomes for these individuals? Not everyone has the same opportunities. If you examine a group of families who are historically oppressed and impoverished, their ability to raise children conducive to success is hindered significantly by default. Hell, ask some teachers if you doubt it. They will tell you that children don't leave their problems at the door when they come to school. School is not some magical world where the realities of their daily life no longer play a role.

Presuming that the explanation is genetics is a very top to bottom approach, and not scientifically admissable. And in this case, yes, not abiding by science would make you a bad person.

Daimen, your view is rather skewed to say the least. Your idea that a crappy job will somehow benefit someone enough to get an education after high school has some serious problems.

1: A crappy job is most likely not going to do enough to make a living. I'm sorry, but $5.35/hr for 40 hrs a week is only $11k a year. Can you survive on this?

2: Let's say someone CAN survive on $11k a year. What's the likeliness that working for this wage for 5 years is going to net you a better paying job? I'm not talking the $.15 cent raises that this person would get each year, but something to where they'd at least be making $10/hr.

3: Okay. Let's say they do actually get the $10/hr job. What's the likeliness that after 3-4 yrs of doing this job that they'd be able to make a $18/hr in this or another job? Let's face it, at that point, they'd be 25. You really should have a dwelling and your own car at this point.

4: You finally have a $18/hr job, but you realize it's holding you back from getting a job where you can afford a house, a wife, children, whatever your focus is for your life. You decide to go back to college finally. Only, you've forgotten everything you learned in high school. It's been 8-12 yrs since you graduated. You have to take tests, and with your already limited education from high school, you fail requirements to pass into regular courses and have to start out with remedial classes.

So now you're paying for classes that don't even count towards a degree. You are having to go solely on grants and loans because there aren't any current education records for you to get scholarships, and even if they went on your high school scores, you just barely passed because of substandard teaching.

5: After years and years of taking night classes and working a job, you finally graduate. You are in your mid-30s. You can finally go get a job with your degree. Now you get to find a spouse, have kids, get a mortgage, and on $40-45k a yr because you are entry level with no experience.


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Sorry.. way too many IF's for this to be concrete evidence that black people are lazy.

Ten bucks an hour is what? Twenty grand a year?

That's what we call the working poor.

You're realy funny Damien. Really.. $10/hr is $1600/mo before taxes, right?

Salary:   1600 
Rent:      500 
Phone:      50 
Elec:      100 
Water:      40 
Gas (Car):  60 
Food:      100 
Car:       300 
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           450

This assumes absolutely no extra expenditures. You cannot expect to have absolutely nothing come up. You cannot expect a person to not indulge in something extra for themselves once in a while. This also assumes no social life. People in general want to be around others. Especially teenage/young adults. If they had wanted to not be around their friends, then they would have done better in high school to go on to college. Go rethink your ideas.




BTW, does anyone know how old Daimen is?

Closer to $15k after Federal, FICA and Medicare. Not counting state taxes, if any.

Man, only $100 on food? I noticed they don't have any health insurance either :c

Yeah. You don't really expect someone to pay for health insurance when they're working as an assistant manager at McDonald's, do you? I know $100 a month on food is really really small, but it is only one person. And if they DON'T eat out, it's not out of the question to be able to survive (not flourish) on just $100 for one person.


To BT, you assume too much to say that 4 friends from the ghetto would all be able to have jobs. Too many people get screwed over when they gain roommates. People that don't pay rent, utilities. Someone has to pick up the slack. And then you've spent out of your budget. So not worth it.

The issue is people are judging others because of where the come from. You never know what someone has been through in their life, regardless of if your poor, rich or in the middle. What I really hate about our society is that parents are being allowed to not take responsibilty for not teaching their kids, reality from entertainment. Yes, I understand not every child has an adult to look up to or get guidance from. You will always have someone who will choose to not do the right thing, because either they dont know any better or they just dont care, REGARDLESS of if they are poor or come from a privaledged back round. People shouldnt get their views of a particular race from the news, or from what they see on T.V. What about some of the CEO's of companies who steal their employees life savings and ***** them out of their pension. Talk about lazy, that is just plain evil. I'm also sure that America loses more money from Tax evasion, than from some of the people that abuse the welfare system.

Edited, Oct 24th 2007 7:53pm by kalaria