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#1 Oct 19 2007 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's not often that two hippos chase down a presidential candidate. But today two did and survived to tell the story.

Voting rights activists protested outside the Washington Hilton this morning, hoping to catch a glimpse of John McCain and express their displeasure at his recent vote against cloture on voting rights legislation that would have moved legislation forward to grant the District a voting seat in the House. Among the activists were two dressed as hippos, part of D.C. Vote's new "Hippos Follow Hypocrites" campaign. And as they did with McCain, the hippos plan on hounding other senators that voted to uphold the filibuster, with an eye towards re-introducing the legislation early next year. The hippos may even follow certain senators to their home states and key primary states, as well as present themselves at their Washington offices to press the voting rights cause.

And though today's protest was small, it was animated. The hippos never made it into the Hilton proper, but they did get within shouting distance of McCain as his he got in his car. The most he could do was give them a feeble thumbs up, after which he quickly left.


I post this because it happened just up the street, but I'm really curious how much play this debate is getting in other parts of the country and the world at large.

Framing the issue briefly: The District of Columbia, not being a state, has no voting representation in the Federal Government (except for two delegates to the Electoral College). It raises a lot of important constitutional issues, since the nearly 600,000 people who live here are subject to all Federal taxes and laws, despite having to say in the passage of those laws. There are other, more pragmatic issues at play as well. The District has its own municipal government, but they're subordinate to the U.S. Congress, so residents here have almost no say in the laws that govern us.

Personally, I favor a Constitutional amendment granting congressional representation to the District as a de facto state. Most efforts so far have been legislative only, and even if such a measure were to pass, it could easily (and rightfully) be struck down by the court (since the Constitution is pretty clear on who gets a vote and who doesn't).
#2 Oct 19 2007 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
I shall read this later. But first I must say how very disappointed I am that you have 3 threads at the top of the page and none of them are a 10k ding thread Smiley: mad
#3 Oct 19 2007 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, but Limbaugh always refers to McCain as a RINO so McCain should have lowered his horn and charged their hippo asses.
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#4 Oct 19 2007 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, but Limbaugh always refers to McCain as a RINO so McCain should have lowered his horn and charged their hippo asses.


Aren't hippos the most feared animal in Africa? He was right to run.
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#5 Oct 19 2007 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I post this because it happened just up the street, but I'm really curious how much play this debate is getting in other parts of the country and the world at large.



Like the rest of the world care about U.S domestic politics.

We do care when you start bombing random country but we don't give a flying
fuck about what's happening in your backyard.
#6 Oct 19 2007 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Among the activists were two dressed as hippos


I'm still trying to figure out what drugs they're on...
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We do care when you start bombing random country but we don't give a flying fuck about what's happening in your backyard.
I used to be that ignorant, then I realized that while I may not like it, what happens in their backyard, politically, can have an impact on the rest of us, globally.
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#8 Oct 19 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
feelz wrote:
We do care when you start bombing random country but we don't give a flying fuck about what's happening in your backyard.



PROTIP: You can make fun of the US for putting more effort in to extending voting rights to Afgans and Iraqis than to residents of their own capital city.
#9 Oct 19 2007 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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feelz wrote:
We do care when you start bombing random country but we don't give a flying fuck about what's happening in your backyard.
I used to be that ignorant, then I realized that while I may not like it, what happens in their backyard, politically, can have an impact on the rest of us, globally.
NPR here plays a Canadian news program at night. Last night I listened to an interview with Robert Nicholson, talking about how the federal omnibus crime bill has been appropriately presented as a confidence measure. Thoughts?
#10 Oct 19 2007 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
I will afford the residents of DC representation as soon as they start paying taxes like the rest of us.
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I wonder how many ECVs DC would get if legislature making them a de facto state were to pass , and which party it would benefit the most. Would DC become it's own tiny swing state ?

Mindel wrote:
the federal omnibus crime bill

My thoughts on that are : more bills should have names dangerously close to those of transformers.




Edited, Oct 19th 2007 12:45pm by tarubstchef
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NPR here plays a Canadian news program at night. Last night I listened to an interview with Robert Nicholson, talking about how the federal omnibus crime bill has been appropriately presented as a confidence measure. Thoughts?


The Liberals can't afford an election right now so they'll support anything the government needs to pass that may otherwise unseat them. However, the Bloc Quebecois are pushing for it. All Harper needs is the Liberals with his minority government though.
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#13 Oct 19 2007 at 10:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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I wonder how many ECVs DC would get if legislature making them a de facto state were to pass , and which party it would benefit the most. Would DC become it's own tiny swing state ?
We already have two ecv delegates, and it wouldn't change. Population-wise, the district is between Vermont and Wyoming. XD
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
Aren't hippos the most feared animal in Africa?
No, that's dumb black people. If McCain sees any of them, he should head for the hills. Preferably the hills of Appalachia.
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Jesus I need to browse ECVs more often. I didn't even know you guys had them , and it turns out you've had as many as 3 or 4. Also , looking back at ECV changes from the 80s or so , New York got raped , but California picked up the lost votes, so really, nothing happened red/blue wise :p
#16 Oct 19 2007 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
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Jesus I need to browse ECVs more often. I didn't even know you guys had them , and it turns out you've had as many as 3 or 4. Also , looking back at ECV changes from the 80s or so , New York got raped , but California picked up the lost votes, so really, nothing happened red/blue wise :p


We've had 3 since the 1960s, and 0 before that. :p

But outs are worth more. Each of our delegates represents ~190k people. Each delegate from California represents ~600k people. :D

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 2:54pm by Mindel
#17 Oct 19 2007 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
Mindel wrote:

But outs are worth more. Each of our delegates represents ~190k people. Each delegate from California represents ~600k people. :D


Thanks for reminding me how little my vote means Smiley: cry
#18 Oct 19 2007 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I used to be that ignorant, then I realized that while I may not like it, what happens in their backyard, politically, can have an impact on the rest of us, globally.


Damn! You're so smart! Thanks for pointing that out.

How did i miss that? Of course if the district of columbia gets voting representation, it will surely affect the life of millions of people all over the world.

Almost everything they do have repercussion on the rest of the world but not in this case.



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PROTIP: You can make fun of the US for putting more effort in to extending voting rights to Afgans and Iraqis than to residents of their own capital city


I don't want to make fun of the U.S. I was only answering your question and saying that, on this particular issue, I don't think people outside the U.S care or even know about it.

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 10:05pm by feelz
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