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#52 Oct 19 2007 at 7:30 AM Rating: Excellent
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
Or, they could not have sex without adequate protection? There are a ton of birth control for both men and women to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. Or there is the long forgotten concept of abstinance. I am not being narrowminded, just preaching long forgotten concepts.


Knock it off. I mean, you could have worn a condom or she could have been on the pill or you could have ejaculated in her face like a normal man would and then you guys wouldn't have the blood of an accidental child on your hands, either.

Continuing to use your girlie's miscarriage to push an anti-choice agenda is grounds for losing any sympathy her broken womb might have garnerd you in this first place. Quit being a cUnt, go grieve in a healthy, introspective way. Abortion has nothing to do with your loss.
#53 Oct 19 2007 at 7:30 AM Rating: Excellent
I grieve for the lost life of the child. And for your own loss.
#54 Oct 19 2007 at 7:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Althrun wrote:
Kaelesh wrote:
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
Or, they could not have sex without adequate protection? There are a ton of birth control for both men and women to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. Or there is the long forgotten concept of abstinance. I am not being narrowminded, just preaching long forgotten concepts.


Sure but then it wouldn't be:
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because she accidentally got pregnant,


Now would it?

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 10:27am by Kaelesh


Senji, in regards to this, wasn't your g/f on birth control when she got preggers?


Yes she was, and we accepted that when we found out she was pregnant. The thought of abortion never corssed my mind.
#55 Oct 19 2007 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
Everything you do in life is a choice. If you choose to f*ck around and end up pregnant, that was your choice. Don't use abortion as a scapegoat or birth control. I never said abortion didn't have its place. But as a really expensive birth control, don't be such a "******."


Who can argue with this kind of thick headed logic?

#56 Oct 19 2007 at 7:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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I move that we ignore any abortion debate in light of the fact that there has been a loss in a family and chalk up any hurtful comments to grief, regardless of the reality.

We can, and have, debated many a time from the pro-life/pro-choice standpoints.

Move along, this isn't the time or the place.

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#57 Oct 19 2007 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Nexa wrote:
I move that we ignore any abortion debate in light of the fact that there has been a loss in a family and chalk up any hurtful comments to grief, regardless of the reality.

We can, and have, debated many a time from the pro-life/pro-choice standpoints.

Move along, this isn't the time or the place.

Nexa


Right! We should save it for the funeral.
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#58 Oct 19 2007 at 7:33 AM Rating: Excellent
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
Or, they could not have sex without adequate protection? There are a ton of birth control for both men and women to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. Or there is the long forgotten concept of abstinance. I am not being narrowminded, just preaching long forgotten concepts.
Yeah sure. Abstinence is going to go over real well in today's society. Deny yourself and the person you love the option of making love, and enjoy the consumation of that love. Good call. Not to mention that there isn't a single contraception out there that is foolproof except castration.

Abstinence: Narrowminded on the verge of Christian Fanaticism.
Not even considering Rape: Narrowminded but thoughtless.

I am feeling less and less sorry for you, when you are carrying around that kind of medieval and inconsiderate notions.
#59 Oct 19 2007 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Abbey, that was the name.

Also BT you weren't posting back then, or were you lurking. That was a year or two before you time.
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#60 Oct 19 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Default
Nexa wrote:
I move that we ignore any abortion debate in light of the fact that there has been a loss in a family and chalk up any hurtful comments to grief, regardless of the reality.

We can, and have, debated many a time from the pro-life/pro-choice standpoints.

Move along, this isn't the time or the place.

Nexa
I second this motion and also add that it is also not a time to joke about bringing it home in a formaldehyde jar. That would be in very poor taste, so don't do it.
#61 Oct 19 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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The obvious answer here is to outlaw abortion and for women to send their unwanted children to Senjiow.
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#62 Oct 19 2007 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
sorry for the loss. hope she is ok, and that you support her in her time of need.
#63 Oct 19 2007 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Kaelesh wrote:
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
Everything you do in life is a choice. If you choose to f*ck around and end up pregnant, that was your choice. Don't use abortion as a scapegoat or birth control. I never said abortion didn't have its place. But as a really expensive birth control, don't be such a "******."


Who can argue with this kind of thick headed logic?



What the hell is so thick minded about it? Maybe if you open your mind instead of that fly-infested yaw you call a mouth you would understand.

Read this twice, then shutup and think about it.

Everything you do in life is a choice.
#64 Oct 19 2007 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
The obvious answer here is to outlaw abortion and for women to send their unwanted children to Senjiow.
If I only had two options; Senjiow or Usagi for my unwanted kids, I'd end up sticking with Usagi.

At least I know he'll take extra good care of 'em.
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#65 Oct 19 2007 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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I'm so so sad for you two. I can't begin to feel what you two are going through.

But I'm really concerned that there seems to be a vital piece of sex-ed missing among some of the forum posters.

Natural conception and childbirth is actually such a chancey thing, (Although you can NEVER rely on it for birth control).

For instance, in a normal, healthy population of child-bearing-age women, on average 5 out of every 8 pregnancies naturally miscarry within the first 2 months. After the first 3 months, pregnancies have a much better chance of going to full term.

There used to be such a taboo against telling ANYONE you were pregnant, until you were a minimum of 3 months along, for just this reason. It was also known you had to guard against getting attached to the pregnancy until the first 3 months were up.

I've been feeling pretty sick with apprehension whenever a poster gets on and celebrates a positive pregnancy test, and tells us that the pregnancy is less than 2 months old. It's happened a few times this year, and I never know whether to rain on their parade with this statistic, or just keep my mouth shut and pray hard that they are going to be lucky with the odds.


I'm really sorry, Senjiow, you probably really didn't want to hear any of this right now. And you might not be the proud father-to-be that announced your new pregnancy recently, that I'm thinking of.
#66 Oct 19 2007 at 7:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Abbay, that was the name.

Also BT you weren't posting back then, or were you lurking. That was a year or two before you time.


I lurked a good three or four years before I ever posted, but I posted something or other in an Abbay thread. I've been using this site since sometime in 2001, I think.

After a bit of searching, I found an early post from Barkingturtle.
#67 Oct 19 2007 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
Or, they could not have sex without adequate protection? There are a ton of birth control for both men and women to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. Or there is the long forgotten concept of abstinance. I am not being narrowminded, just preaching long forgotten concepts.
Yeah sure. Abstinence is going to go over real well in today's society. Deny yourself and the person you love the option of making love, and enjoy the consumation of that love. Good call. Not to mention that there isn't a single contraception out there that is foolproof except castration.

Abstinence: Narrowminded on the verge of Christian Fanaticism.
Not even considering Rape: Narrowminded but thoughtless.

I am feeling less and less sorry for you, when you are carrying around that kind of medieval and inconsiderate notions.


Ugh, just because someone doesn't have the same views as you doesn't make them a fanatic. I was abstinent for the better part of 18 years, and it was my choice. I have plenty of chances in junior high and high school to get my freak on, but I chose not to. Why the hell does being over 18 exclude you from the same thing? I have a few friends who are in their mid 20s and they are virgins as well. They are not fat or ugly, they are just waiting.

If you think that burying the bone is the only way to show someone you love them, you are going to be a very lonely person or have a lot of shallow relationships.
#68 Oct 19 2007 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Api wrote:
It's happened a few times this year, and I never know whether to rain on their parade with this statistic, or just keep my mouth shut and pray hard that they are going to be lucky with the odds.


When in doubt, leave it out.

Unless you're BT, of course.
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#69 Oct 19 2007 at 7:49 AM Rating: Excellent
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
If you think that burying the bone is the only way to show someone you love them, you are going to be a very lonely person or have a lot of shallow relationships.
So because you and your friends don't feel that consumating a relationship by making love is a good thing to do, the rest of us that do find lovemaking to be one of the greatest bonding experiences are lonely persons? Random sex, and making love to the person you are in love with are two different things. Besides, you have yet to answer to the possibility of rape, failed contraceptives and just stupid mistakes on the part of young people who just failed to realise the possible consequences of their actions.

Should all of the above be punished by emotionally and social backwards people like you? Take a good look at today's society, and ask yourself if removing abortions as a possibility for all those people is a good thing. If you still claim that people who have abortions are scum, then you really shouldn't be breeding yourself. I have no patience with people that can't see shades of grey in today's world.
#70 Oct 19 2007 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
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NorthAI the Hand wrote:
Senjiow the Mundane wrote:
If you think that burying the bone is the only way to show someone you love them, you are going to be a very lonely person or have a lot of shallow relationships.
So because you and your friends don't feel that consumating a relationship by making love is a good thing to do, the rest of us that do find lovemaking to be one of the greatest bonding experiences are lonely persons? Random sex, and making love to the person you are in love with are two different things. Besides, you have yet to answer to the possibility of rape, failed contraceptives and just stupid mistakes on the part of young people who just failed to realise the possible consequences of their actions.

Should all of the above be punished by emotionally and social backwards people like you? Take a good look at today's society, and ask yourself if removing abortions as a possibility for all those people is a good thing. If you still claim that people who have abortions are scum, then you really shouldn't be breeding yourself. I have no patience with people that can't see shades of grey in today's world.


Did you read any of my posts?

Earlier I wrote wrote:
Everything you do in life is a choice. If you choose to f*ck around and end up pregnant, that was your choice. Don't use abortion as a scapegoat or birth control. I never said abortion didn't have its place. But as a really expensive birth control, don't be such a "******."

I never said people should never have an abortion. There is a place for them, like I said.
I also wrote wrote:
Or, they could not have sex without adequate protection? There are a ton of birth control for both men and women to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. Or there is the long forgotten concept of abstinence. I am not being narrowminded, just preaching long forgotten concepts.

If you choose to have sex, be prepared for the consequences. The bolded sentence in my first quote explains it all. You are never forced to do anything, ever. If you make a choice without thinking about the results, good or bad, that doesn't sound very smart.
#71 Oct 19 2007 at 7:57 AM Rating: Default
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A post announcing a stillbirth ends up a debate on abortion.

Good Good

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#72 Oct 19 2007 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
Senji I do have this to say, You may have made the choice to keep your child after you got your wife "accidentally" pregnant (in the way that birth control didn't work). But had you not lost the child, would you have had the money/resources to look after it and bring it up properly? I am guessing yes since you already have other kids. What about a high school couple who are having sex, and using protection, but still get pregnant just like you did. Do you honestly believe a couple of highschool kids are gonna be able to bring up a child?

I mean sure they could give it up for adoption, but that puts an undue amount of emotional stress on the couple.

I can't believe you'd be so freaking narrow minded about something like this.
#73 Oct 19 2007 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
Archfiend bodhisattva wrote:
A post announcing a stillbirth ends up a debate on abortion.

Good Good

Does this mean we can start cracking jokes about them having a party after the D&C?
#74 Oct 19 2007 at 8:00 AM Rating: Good
Archfiend bodhisattva wrote:
A post announcing a stillbirth ends up a debate on abortion.

Good Good

I imagine your 10k title is part of the reason.
#75 Oct 19 2007 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Senji I do have this to say, You may have made the choice to keep your child after you got your wife "accidentally" pregnant (in the way that birth control didn't work). But had you not lost the child, would you have had the money/resources to look after it and bring it up properly? I am guessing yes since you already have other kids. What about a high school couple who are having sex, and using protection, but still get pregnant just like you did. Do you honestly believe a couple of highschool kids are gonna be able to bring up a child?

I mean sure they could give it up for adoption, but that puts an undue amount of emotional stress on the couple.

I can't believe you'd be so freaking narrow minded about something like this.

It's not being narrow minded, it's being aware of the consequences of their choices.

edit:actions sounded dumb.

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 10:04am by Senjiow
#76 Oct 19 2007 at 8:05 AM Rating: Excellent
My condolences Senj. Been there with an ex myself and it sucks.
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