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#1 Sep 13 2004 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
Well, since this was stated in church by my pastor, i have yet to check the validity of this statement.

Apperently in one of Kerry's speaches last month he stated how he was a christian, and that his favorite verse was John 16:3

Obviously this is a mistake meant by the speach writer to be John 3:16, the famous "For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoevershall beleive in him shall have eternal life"
The two funny things about this is that

1) No one in the party caught this mistake during speach practice (i assume they practice their speaches or at least draft them)

2) John 16:3 says (rough translation) They know not what they do because they know not my father's word.

lol

Again this was just stated in my church and i am aware the church can pass propeganda as much as the next, however I thought it was pretty funny.
#2 Sep 13 2004 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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#3 Sep 13 2004 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
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damn you Dan you beat me to it.

On a side note AzrielDuordden, your Pastor was also wrong on the whole God loving you bit.

Please GFY and then Die. KK Thnx.
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#4 Sep 13 2004 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, since this was stated in church by my pastor,


That's really sad that your pastor has nothing better to talk about during service then to bash the democratic party. I think it's time to look for a new church...
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#5 Sep 13 2004 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
I fail to see how the candidates religious beliefs qualify as an election issue.

Please keep religion and government separate thank you.
#6 Sep 13 2004 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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fail to see how the candidates religious beliefs qualify as an election issue.

Please keep religion and government separate thank you.




Why??? Are you so indoctrinated by the religion of secular humanism and atheism that you believe the myth that is what the framers of the constitution wanted?
Please go read some history, rather than the indoctrination your getting now.
#7 Sep 13 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
I believer that what the framers wanted were for good, moral, religious men to take positions in government, and then to not make their religions part of their governing policies or decisions.


Poor guys shoulda known that wasn't going to happen.
#8 Sep 14 2004 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
Dear Lord , the harshness of these people replying back to his post. Now I know this forum is for a place of opinions... but some here are just ignorant.



"Please GFY and then Die. KK Thnx."
No explanation needed. Poster is just ignorant and has something stuck up ones own *** and is bitter.


"That's really sad that your pastor has nothing better to talk about during service then to bash the democratic party. I think it's time to look for a new church... "

First off you have no clue what the rest of his church seminar was about... so who are you to tell him he needs to look for a new church? Again. Ignorance.


To those above people I've quoted. He said he didnt know the validity of the statement. Read before you jump the gun. And you don't know the full story either of what happened in his church. Only intelligent posters in the replies were PieMan , DanFitzGer(proved Azriel wrong but handled it like an adult), and TStephens.

People these days...... ggrrrrrr.
But i suppose ignorance is a bliss for those uneducated.
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#9 Sep 14 2004 at 9:04 PM Rating: Default
i think kerry is a pole surfer. running any which way he thinks will get him a few more votes. a one term president IMO.

but the only thing i really need to know about Kerry is....he is not Bush.

Kerry is not going to win the election, Bush is going to loose it.

will deal with Kerry in 2008. and who knows, he may turn out to be a good president. Clinton did.
#10 Sep 14 2004 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
"Clinton did."???

I say to thee Nay!!!

He lied to everyone under oath. Point blank. I wish he would of been kicked out of office.. But Bush will not lose this election. Infact he will actually win. And I'm gonna put him up at 57%(Bush) - 43%(Kerry). Once we all know that the memo gates are solved. CBS News will be no more. Bye bye to Dan Rather and the Kerry Campaign will be gone. Cause IMO the DNC are the ones who provided the documents. Boo on yall.

Edited, Wed Sep 15 03:32:30 2004 by Elsahn
#11 Sep 14 2004 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm always curious about presidental blunders, past,present or future, so I went and looked this one up. This is what I found out. Yes this blunder was made but by none of the aftermentioned persons. In fact it was made by President George Bush in 1990 in from of a group of religous broadcasters, according to Cal Thomas (an author/columnist) who witnessed it first hand. Here's the source of my information: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_kerry_john_3_16.htm
in case anyone wants to validate my statments. I guess it runs in the family.
As for the separation of church and state issue that seems to have come up in the course of this thread, my personal opinion is that while church and state do need to be separated, it is a wide belief that religion is the basis of many morale beliefs, where we get our ideas of right and wrong and I think American pop culture could use a hefty dose of morality. Anyway my point being I think political icons try to show they have morales by quoting the Bible in an ignorant hope that we(the American public) won't look into their personal lives and rip all the skeletons from their closet.
#12 Sep 14 2004 at 10:38 PM Rating: Good
We're an aggressive folk. Get used to it or go post somewhere else.

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"That's really sad that your pastor has nothing better to talk about during service then to bash the democratic party. I think it's time to look for a new church... "

First off you have no clue what the rest of his church seminar was about... so who are you to tell him he needs to look for a new church? Again. Ignorance.


I think the point was more that, at least in the North, most of the congregation prefer that their religious leaders stay away from Politics; I think the survey was that 70% or so of Catholics didn't appreciate their pastors telling them who to vote for (or, more often, who not to vote for). In the South, where I'll take a wild stab and say you're from, the attitude towards religious interference in politics is very, very different.

EDIT: Minor brain cramp, the rest of the post stands.

Edited, Wed Sep 15 00:12:02 2004 by RPZip
#13 Sep 14 2004 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
Aggressiveness is fine, as long as you can back it up.


But I'm gonna have to point you out.... If you would read the VERY FIRST LINE of the original post it states....

"Well, since this was stated in church by my pastor, i have yet to check the validity of this statement."

He was just stating what he heard and his opinion on it. He knew it coulda been wrong. He just didnt check if it was right or wrong. And then just to cover his tracks to hope no one would think he was saying that this was true 100% saying oh kerrys an idiot blah blah blah the VERY LAST LINE of his post reads....

"Again this was just stated in my church and i am aware the church can pass propeganda as much as the next, however I thought it was pretty funny."

So again he states he knows it could be wrong... he just thought either way it was funny.

As Dr. Dre would say...
"Ring ding dong, ringa ding ding ding dong. Keep your heads ringing....."

Edited, Wed Sep 15 20:20:19 2004 by Elsahn
#14 Sep 14 2004 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
It's interesting that you've spent more time trying to defend him from the fact that we're quite aggressive to morons (especially ones who ***** about the fact that their thread about "Vote for Bush!!!111" turned into a political debate) than he obviously did in typing up this post, either in trying to find out if it was true or the effort he put into the spelling and grammar, such as it is, from the post.

For that matter, who the hell is Naughty by Nature, and why would I care what he (she?) says?
#15 Sep 14 2004 at 11:43 PM Rating: Good
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He was, you dip. Being impeached isn't the same as being driven out of office. The impeachment (basicly, Congress saying you were naughty) passed, the measures to remove him from office failed miserably.
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#16 Sep 15 2004 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
/sigh

Lord, I am sorry for the world of ignorance that is bestown up you in this forum. May you punish and forgive them of their arrogant ways.

Naughty by Nature was a rap artist back in the day(from a 20 yr old perspective). And you prolly souldnt care, youre right, I just felt like singing that lil verse from his song.

Adios mis negros.
#17 Sep 15 2004 at 4:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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#18 Sep 15 2004 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
This is OOT, not the asylum. Keep it civil please

As of late, this request seems to be popping up more often in this particular forum.

::pulls out his soapbox::

I can appreciate the sentiment behind many of the insults here that have flown so freely as poo in a monkey house as of late. Several of them have caused me to snicker, an offense punishable by glaring in my workplace. However, there are boundaries, which we have transgressed.

I'd like to take just a few moments to request of my fellow forum frequenters that we, as a group, seek to reverse this trend of using illicit language in the OOT forum. Known to many as 'The Sandbox' because it is a place where the language and ideas should pass a PG-13 rating, the OOT forum has recently been bombarded with harsh language and aggressive attitudes. We have a place for these things.

It's https://everquest.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=4

Can we please, as a group, gather our collective skirts and tiptoe over to The Asylum for the raunchy stuff?


::slides the soapbox back under the desk::

::dons his Bullseye Tshirt and blindfold::


Ok, fire away.
#19 Sep 15 2004 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't know "dip" was such a harsh term Smiley: lol
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#20 Sep 15 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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First off you have no clue what the rest of his church seminar was about... so who are you to tell him he needs to look for a new church? Again. Ignorance.


No here is my point.

I'm not commenting on the rest of the sermon. I wasn't there for that. Apparently the part that stood out is what is mentioned in this post. Why would you make a post on a message board if you didn't want opinions on it?

I am commenting on the fact that his church leader, instead of guiding him on how to live a more godly life decided instead to spread misinformation on a current political canidate. He could have attributed it to an unnamed source to keep the sermon politically neutral. He could have just as easily researched his statement, or more appropriatly left out the anti-Kerry political bantor all together.

My opinion is that is no way to run a church. Another one of my opinions is that your a peckerhead. If you would like some more just let me know I've got lots of time.

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But i suppose ignorance is a bliss for those uneducated.

And reading comprehension a bane to those who happen upon your digital garbage.
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#21 Sep 15 2004 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
(especially ones who ***** about the fact that their thread about "Vote for Bush!!!111" turned into a political debate)



I dont recall b**ching about it.


"Wow its amazing how a simple post on VOte For Bush has turned into a racial and political debate. WOW"


i just found it funny, bi**tching would be OMGWTF you all are liars long LIVE BUSH KERRY SUCKS. Any way like the above poster said im from the south and most of the time the pastor opens with a joke, or a funny story hence...the initial post. Danfitzger showed me that my pastor was wrong, thats fine i still thought it was funny, the Admins could have made the statement and i would have posted it. So here the change

Something funny about Bush sr. Biblical knowledge.

Out of curiosity how do you all find stuff on the net so fast? I by no means am a wizz at the internet, it usually takes me a while to find information.

Edited, Wed Sep 15 10:50:00 2004 by AzrielDuordden
#22 Sep 15 2004 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
i wish you'd posted this in the asylum so i could tell you to "go fu[i][/i]ck yourself" without the admins editting my post, or just getting miffed.
#23 Sep 15 2004 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
Fact: There are certain socio-economic groups in the South who vote a straight party line.

Fact: They vote the line that their minister says.

Fact: The minister gets $$ for this. Certain other concessions are also made in addition, but $$ always changes hands.

Fact: I have seen votes purchased in this manner.

Fact: It's usually, but not always, a Dem candidate making the purchase.
#24 Sep 15 2004 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
why do you want me to F**k my self? I havnt complained griped, thrown my opinion on anyone? Are you that angry that you feel the need to curse at me, for what?
#25 Sep 15 2004 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
That's Drac, and yes, he's that angry.

He's a mean little pillow biter of a communist.

I'd suggest you don't reply to his posts as he will say more hurtful things to/about you.



That being said, are you dense enough to not realise that your posts are inflammatory?
#26 Sep 15 2004 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
Apperently they are. Why though doesnt that guy that supports Kerry get flamed? I never realized how mant gamers hated Bush till i came here. Apperently since then people see my posts and they "There he is the Pro-Bush Guy, get the torches and pitchforks" I dunno.
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