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#1 Sep 02 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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/rant on

Ok...

So this has nothing to do with gaming - unless of course you are calling a customer service centre of an MMORPG.

I'm a university student and to pay the bills I work as a customer service rep taking incoming phone calls for a large company. I won't go into the specifics, but basically most customers don't have many alternatives in the market.

Now... Customers call in.. AND THEY YELL AT ME IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE PRICE. I CAN NOT DO ANYTHING. I'm A PEON! A SERF! A NOBODY!

Please... If you want to *****, complain, yell, etc., make sure you are aiming it at the right person!!! I would LOVE to sell you my company's products for less, but if I did that I would be fired!!!!!!!!!!

/rant off
#2 Sep 02 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Ach, I hear ya. I've worked as a phone monkey for a cell phone company and it always amazed how rude and well just plain stupid so many people are.

One of the best calls I ever got was from some lady who was calling in for a friend of hers. Her friend went over his minutes and she was wondering if we could give them some credit on the bill - because he was illiterate!

It's just amazing how many people out there do not want to take personal responsibility for themselves.
#3 Sep 02 2004 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
I dont know if this will make you feel better kingjord, but i have never and will never be rude to a Customer Service Rep. I always talk to them in a polite manor and treat them like they are my best friends.
#4 Sep 02 2004 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
Rofl! Nice post.. so true though!
#5 Sep 02 2004 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Now... Customers call in.. AND THEY YELL AT ME IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE PRICE. I CAN NOT DO ANYTHING. I'm A PEON! A SERF! A NOBODY!


Some people are just pricks.

As long as you deal with humans, you're going to run into them.

And, I bet, in Customer Service, you probably encounter a buttload of them. I've never worked CS myself, but I can imagine.

Look at this way: You *could* be stuck with a factory job.

Just like the movie Office Space, only I don't have a little cubicle.

Cold comfort, I know, but I don't know how to make you feel any better.

/comfort^^
#6 Sep 03 2004 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
I'm with you man.

I work internet technical support for one of this countries largest internet/cable companies. If it wasn't for Allakhazam, I'd have lost it by now. :)
#7 Sep 03 2004 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Bringing a gun to work and shooting up your co-workers helps, as does living in another country where English is your second language. You won't be as bothered when you're not sure what the infedel is so upset abut.
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#8 Sep 03 2004 at 1:54 AM Rating: Default
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Bringing a gun to work and shooting up your co-workers helps,


The co-workers aren't his problem.

The ******** who call him all day are.

Read the post instead of making assumptions, dumbass.
#9 Sep 03 2004 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
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LoL don't get me wrong - I love my job.

Basically I sit all day and post in the FFXI forums until someone calls and interrupts me.

Nevertheless here is a typical conversation that annoys the hell outta me:

Customer: "So how much would that be?"

Me: "$26.71 including taxes and shipping"

Customer: "26 dollars? Are you crazy? I remember when it used to cost 10!!!"

Me: " ... "

WTF am I supposed to say? "You're right. I will just change the price to ten dollars! In fact since you sound like such a swell person, I'll pay for the difference out of my iddy biddy little paycheck! You stupid prick!"
#10 Sep 03 2004 at 5:03 AM Rating: Decent
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The co-workers aren't his problem.

The @#%^s who call him all day are.

Read the post instead of making assumptions, dumbass.


Never again think that you comprehend something I post without asking. Anyone with an IQ over 30 would understand that it's much, much harder to shoot the people who call him all day.

His co-workers, on the other hand are a handy target rich enviorment with which he can make a statement about the banality of the cubicle farm existance.

In the future, just say "I don't understand" and I'll hand hold you through it so you don't embarass yourself so much.
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#11 Sep 03 2004 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
CS jobs can suck.

Key point: Remember that you don't actually have to care. All you have to do is service the customer.

Believe me, I've serviced a couple of customers, too.



As a consumer, I love dealing with places that have 2% policies.

My favorite line ever is:

I bought the Goddamn thing to use it, not to bring it back. THAT is why I don't have a receipt. If your store had the common decency to tell me you were selling me a piece of **** that would tear up after two days, I'd have been sure to file that receipt instead of throwing it away. I came to this desk for some help. Now can you help me or not?


#12 Sep 03 2004 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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What the dude behind the counter hears wrote:
blah blah blah blah... I don't have a receipt... blah blah blah blah... file that receipt instead of throwing it away... blah blah blah... can you help me or not?


Most really don't get that worked up about it. They honestly don't care one way or the other how you feel. Basically, if your issue falls within the written procedure politly get it handled at the Service desk. If it deviates in any way at all, save your breath and bloodpressure and politly ask for a manager.
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#13 Sep 04 2004 at 2:20 AM Rating: Default
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Never again think that you comprehend something I post without asking.


I wouldn't dream of trying, since you are obviously addicted to something. Only an idiot would come up with the nonsense that you spew.

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Anyone with an IQ over 30 would understand that it's much, much harder to shoot the people who call him all day.


Well, ****** duh! Bullets don't travel through the phone lines, *******. We all know this. Breaking news from Smash, story at 10! Wtf?!?

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His co-workers, on the other hand are a handy target rich enviorment with which he can make a statement about the banality of the cubicle farm existance.


I dunno what to make of this. You want the guy to shoot innocent people to make a statement? So, yer ****** nuts, as well as stupid?

No....you just want to use big words and elaborate sentances to make people think you aren't the dumbass we all know you for.

BTW, learn how to spell. It's "environment". Read a book.

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In the future, just say "I don't understand" and I'll hand hold you through it so you don't embarass yourself so much.


It's "embarrass".

Again, read a book. Or go to school.

And if holding my hand is what you want, well, sorry, it isn't gonna happen, slick.

I'm sure there are a lot of bars where you can get that sort of action, but I don't swing that way.



Edited, Sat Sep 4 03:35:30 2004 by johnnyhammer
#14 Sep 04 2004 at 2:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't dream of trying, since you are obviously addicted to something.


Yeah.

Kicking your ***.
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#15 Sep 04 2004 at 7:15 AM Rating: Default
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Its "don't know", "you're", "sentences", and "going to".


Please, if you're going to pick on someone else's spelling, at least learn to spell correctly yourself.
#16 Sep 04 2004 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
customer servive rep. rep = representitive

you ARE representing the company you work for.

you ARE the person YOUR BOSS putts in front of the customer to handle the minor problems and take the brunt of COMPLAINTS.

you ARE the right person for the public to vent to, it is part of YOUR JOB.

you complaining about customers yelling at you is like a roofer complaining about the heat in south florida, or a doctor complaining about being exposed to blood.

suck it up or find another job. no offense.
#17 Sep 04 2004 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I've done customer service in call centers for about 10 years now.
#18 Sep 04 2004 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Its "don't know", "you're", "sentences", and "going to".


Please, if you're going to pick on someone else's spelling, at least learn to spell correctly yourself.


Yeah, I know. I'm a moron.

I don't want to fight anymore.

The last few days have been pretty bad; made me do stuff I don't normally ever do.

Like pick stupid fights with people I don't know.

I apologize, Smash.

You can have the last word, if you want it.
#19 Sep 05 2004 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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you complaining about customers yelling at you is like a roofer complaining about the heat in south florida, or a doctor complaining about being exposed to blood.


Dufus, it's about respect. Just because you are a customer does not mean that you have the right to treat another human being like a punching bag.

Edited, Sun Sep 5 01:40:34 2004 by kundalini
#20 Sep 05 2004 at 7:27 AM Rating: Good
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I apologize, Smash.

You can have the last word, if you want it.


You're a good man.

Count yourself among about 7 people on this board who can say "I was wrong".

You're ok in my book.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#21 Sep 05 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
Dufus, it's about respect. Just because you are a customer does not mean that you have the right to treat another human being like a punching bag.

yes, i agree.

but what about the respect a company owes to its customer? what about respect for me when bell south droped my DSL for a mess up on their end, and basically told me SOL, if i want it hooked up again, i need to pay another connection charge?

who do we show the respect we are given by the company? who do we vent to?

the.......customer service rep.

respect is a two way street. why do you think customer service is mostly farmed out to third word countries now? because companys dont care about the customer. they do not want to seal with complaints, they just want to make money.

if your company generates alot of hostility from its customers....it is not the customers fault......and if you cant deal with it......find another company to work for.
#22 Sep 05 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
here is an example for you.

i purchased a new 2000 dodge caravan. after 24,000 miles the front brakes went out. the very polite, and courtious customer service agent informed me, that was normal at 24,000 miles. when i mentioned the bumper to bumper warentee, he showed me a copy of my factory warentee that clearly said somewhere near the back, that brake pads and rotors were not covered unless their failure was a result of some other factory defect.

so i sucked it up, and went across the street to have the brakes fixed. dodge couldnt do it for 3 days aleast. and the brake place across the street was going to do it for half the price.

300 dollars later, i returned with a factorey defective calliper. all is good. but with a smile and a polite greeting, i was toold "how do we know that came off our truck? sorry, i cant help you"

not to be detered, i crawled under my truck with a flash light, and took the part number off the remaining caliper, and sure enough, the date code was the same. meaning if it didnt come off my truck, it came off a truck that was produced immediatly after mine was built.

no luck.

a few weeks later, i noticed the clear coat starting to bubble up on my rear hatch. when i took it in, i also brought a copy of my 5 year paint warentee. with a smile, and being very courtious, he pointed out, that the warentee is on the pain, not the paint protection coating.

my point?

people dont get up in the morning and decide to go out of their way to jump down your throat....unless you are married to them.

they get fustraited when they feel they were cheated, or didnt not get what they paid for, or feel they were misled, or sold a product that did not live up to its promiss.

and YOUR company hires people to stand in front of them and take the heat. (you). usually, and more often lately, they hire someone to tell them SOL, so they dont have to deal with the unpleasentness themselves. that is why so many CS rep jobs are being farmed out to other countries. it is an expense. and as far as they are concerned, their bussiness with you was over when you handed them your hard earned money.

YOU are the only contact with the company they have to vent to.

it is not their fault. it is not your fault. it is your companyes fault. imagine how few irate people you would have to deal with if your company was like sears, and just replaced whatever was in dispute? they get irate because your company does not intend to give them satisfaction, for whatever reason.

and they hired YOU to deal out the bad news.

it is not the customers fault, it is your companies fault. so dont take out your fustraition with irate customers on the customers, take it out on the people who hired you to be their punching bag....or find another job.

not trying to be cynical of you, just the trend in this country to toss customer satisfaction out the window just because you cant get any better any where else. ALL car dealers where i live are in collusion with each other to NOT provide loaner vehicals. it saves them money, adn no matter how inconvienced YOU are, you cant get any better any where else.

it builds consumer fustraition. and so comapnies hire polite, courtious people like you to be their punching bag. a company i used to work for only hired part time old ladies for customer service problems. it wasnt about qualifications, it was about spending as little money as possible to say SOL as polite as possible with a person standing in front of you that invoked as little retalition as possible.

it is not the consumer, it is the company you need to complain about. clearly if the customer who got on your nerves was satisfied with the service he recieved, their would never have been a problam in the first place.\

and one more thing. do NOT EVER buy a dahlmer chrysler product. their warentee is not worth the paper it is written on. you buy their product, it is as-is reguardless of what the salesman tells you...unless you want to take every service claim to court with a lawyer and a scientist to make them honor it.

#23 Sep 05 2004 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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As a consumer, I love dealing with places that have 2% policies.


Never heard of such a policy. Could you please explain what it is about?
Thank you.
#24 Sep 07 2004 at 1:15 AM Rating: Good
A 2% policy bascically states that about 2% of the customers who approach the desk will not be pleased no matter how many contortions you go through to solve their problem. If one of these people starts drawing too much attention from other customers, you do what it takes to make them go away, within certain limits.

In other words, if you make a public *** of yourself in just the right way, you can get concessions that are contrary to written policies such as 'No software returns' or 'no cash refund without receipt'. The trick is to be loud but not threatening and outraged that you're being treated poorly after giving them your business in the first place only to be cheated out of your money because the product is unacceptable.

It's a sad fact that so many sheeple just accept the lumps handed to them by retail chains.

I once had a popular chain store try to tell me that a digital camera I bought was 'software' and non-refundable because the driver CD was included. Never mind that the POS couldn't take a decent picture from 5 feet. Or that the 'software' was downloadable for free from the manufacturer's website. (It wasn't supposed to be top of the line, but it was supposed to be better than the camera on my friggin cellphone.)

I often feel sorry for the customer service people who can't answer the situations they are put in. But their own company policies put them there, not I. And I refuse to suffer monetary loss in order to make their jobs cushy. They are accountable for their company associations as much as an Enron exec. You know, if you work in customer service, it's a good idea to either agree with the company policies you have to enforce or to not give a damn what customers say to you and just do the job and go home at the end of the day.
#25 Sep 07 2004 at 3:00 AM Rating: Good
Ahh, thank you, never thought about it that way before.
#26 Sep 07 2004 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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customer servive rep. rep = representitive

you ARE representing the company you work for.

you ARE the person YOUR BOSS putts in front of the customer to handle the minor problems and take the brunt of COMPLAINTS.

you ARE the right person for the public to vent to, it is part of YOUR JOB.

you complaining about customers yelling at you is like a roofer complaining about the heat in south florida, or a doctor complaining about being exposed to blood.

suck it up or find another job. no offense.


Spoken like a true government employee... from which customers have no refuge at all if they're dissatisfied with the service.

(Yes, he is.)

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