Well Florida, it's been less than three weeks since Charley ravaged your homes, and lively-hood.
On the brink of yet another massive hurricane, are you prepared for Frances?
In light of recent hurricane activity, I thought to myself .. What was the last, most destructive hurricane? Well that would be hurricane Andrew of course. Exactly how destructive was it? Well the official death tolls are quoted to be anywhere between 19-59.
This report shows you the ugly aftermath of what "really" happened.
http://www.karenlyster.com/andrew.html
Very interesting read. I myself am not typically one for conspiracy theories, but this was indeed truly gripping.
This is just an indicator of what might be coming for you late Friday night, or early Saturday morning.
Good luck, my prayers are with you Florida.
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I hope that all goes well with Florida. However, I find that hard to believe......the story..
omg this is nothing compared to living through Typhoon Omar.... try being stuck in a house where you can see coconut trees being torn out by the roots, dead bodies being undug etc. etc. THATS a natural disaster (happened in Guam)...that and a large earthquake that also occured there (forget the day, but i slept through it suprisingly)
forgot to mention i was just a kid during that time, so i'm not sure if it'll stack up with this disaster
Edited, Thu Sep 2 08:31:51 2004 by TaterzZ
forgot to mention i was just a kid during that time, so i'm not sure if it'll stack up with this disaster
Edited, Thu Sep 2 08:31:51 2004 by TaterzZ
i moved to Florida for a job transfer a few months after Andrew struck.
believe the story.
concrete, CBS block houses leveled to the foundation. every two story house in the neibhorhood i moved to was flattened. every roof that had a flat surface facing the wind was taken off, and many of the walls fell shortly after.
people crawling on the ground from their flattened houses to their neibhors.
the house i purchased survived the storm. the roof had no gabel to it, and the only damage it took was the wall with the two sets of glass doors in them blown down. it had already been fixed when i bought it though. inside the house, you could see where they cut the drywall off throughout the house. there was 3 feet of water INSIDE the house. the flooring, all the walls, and every electrical outlet below the 3 foot mark was destroyed. thank god it was a newer house and the plumbing was PVC. many people had to tear up their foundation to replace the cast iron pipes in the older homes, they corroded from the inside out.
short of a poured, solid concrete wall, like the type used in the bahamas and most storm shelters, no house built in the united states to current codes can withstand a 150 plus wind. it is not the wind, but the stuff flying in the wind that does the damage. imagine a pine tree battering ram launched at your house at 150 mph. by by house. by by roof. by by anyone in its path.
i will stay in a shuttered house when the winds are below 100 mph. after that, i make other plans, IE a mini vacation in an unthreatened area, or a trip to a shelter....which is very unpleasent in itself, but safe.
believe the story.
concrete, CBS block houses leveled to the foundation. every two story house in the neibhorhood i moved to was flattened. every roof that had a flat surface facing the wind was taken off, and many of the walls fell shortly after.
people crawling on the ground from their flattened houses to their neibhors.
the house i purchased survived the storm. the roof had no gabel to it, and the only damage it took was the wall with the two sets of glass doors in them blown down. it had already been fixed when i bought it though. inside the house, you could see where they cut the drywall off throughout the house. there was 3 feet of water INSIDE the house. the flooring, all the walls, and every electrical outlet below the 3 foot mark was destroyed. thank god it was a newer house and the plumbing was PVC. many people had to tear up their foundation to replace the cast iron pipes in the older homes, they corroded from the inside out.
short of a poured, solid concrete wall, like the type used in the bahamas and most storm shelters, no house built in the united states to current codes can withstand a 150 plus wind. it is not the wind, but the stuff flying in the wind that does the damage. imagine a pine tree battering ram launched at your house at 150 mph. by by house. by by roof. by by anyone in its path.
i will stay in a shuttered house when the winds are below 100 mph. after that, i make other plans, IE a mini vacation in an unthreatened area, or a trip to a shelter....which is very unpleasent in itself, but safe.
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omg this is nothing compared to living through Typhoon Omar.... try being stuck in a house where you can see coconut trees being torn out by the roots, dead bodies being undug etc. etc. THATS a natural disaster (happened in Guam)...that and a large earthquake that also occured there (forget the day, but i slept through it suprisingly)
yeah everyone who died in chalie must have been a *****, this guy saw monsoon omar!!!
the article wrote:
As the Chief Petty Officer stated, "5,280-something" bodies were confiscated by the United States National Guard.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
the differance between a hurricane and a typhone is you can now see a hurricane coming weeks before it gets there. there is little to no warning for a typhone. same with a tornado. i would take a hurricane over either any day simpley because you have time to prepare.
as far as being deadly, the above is why hurricans are not so deadly any more, but if you want to do a body count, over 10,000 people were killed by the hurricane that hit galveston texas.
andrew would have toped that number if it were not for the simple fact, we could see it coming and prepare. imagine miami beach without an evacuation during andrew. tens of thousands would have died. and the house i bought? that neibhorhood was evacuated also before andrew hit, and yet, 6 people died there because they wanted to ride it out. grave yards are full of stupid people.
hurricans are much more destructive and deadly than either of the other two......but hurricans can be prepared for, the others cannot.
as far as being deadly, the above is why hurricans are not so deadly any more, but if you want to do a body count, over 10,000 people were killed by the hurricane that hit galveston texas.
andrew would have toped that number if it were not for the simple fact, we could see it coming and prepare. imagine miami beach without an evacuation during andrew. tens of thousands would have died. and the house i bought? that neibhorhood was evacuated also before andrew hit, and yet, 6 people died there because they wanted to ride it out. grave yards are full of stupid people.
hurricans are much more destructive and deadly than either of the other two......but hurricans can be prepared for, the others cannot.
A typhoon is the same thing as a hurricane. It's called a typhoon in the Pacific Ocean, hurricane in the Atlantic.
The story turned unbelievable when the guy stated that our armed forces were dumping the dead into huge open graves. Even if we had, how the HELL would he know about it?
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The story turned unbelievable when the guy stated that our armed forces were dumping the dead into huge open graves. Even if we had, how the HELL would he know about it?
Because he wears a tin-foil hat that prevents the government from erasing his memory.
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!
tricky wrote:
It's called a typhoon in the Pacific Ocean, hurricane in the Atlantic.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Eeek! Im in sarasota florida, u know where that is? thats right, im ******* next 10 hours will be hell
Is 105 mph enough to overturn trailers?
I didn't believe that after he/she wrote that Hurricane Andrew struck full-force seconds after he/she was warned it changed direction.
There is a thing about government I find interesting. I know a bit about politics and even more about natural disasters. I find natural disasters to be a fascinating subject, how they are created, what they do, how they do it and the like. I find the scream of a storm exhilarating or the roar of an earthquake engulfing. Think badly of me if you will but its what I love.
Anywho, back on topic. To be perfectly honest our defenses against natural disasters of such caliber still leave us at mother natures mercy. The only real defense we have is simply not being there. Hurricane Andrew is a perfect example of what would happen if missed our one great advantage. I'm sorry but 21 to 49 people missing is not a realistic number. Either that or Andrew wasn't as bad as I had heard.
My father was a Sergeant in the military, it is not unreasonable to say that the situation was not as horrible as it was for political gain in the Shrub Senior administration. I can see some of the bodies being removed to lighten the load on reporters. It is a sad fact that political agendas do not generally concern themselves with human life.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I can see SOME light to such a story. I would not put it past the Bush Administration to do so, considering the time frame. I also can see a sense of exaggeration to this. Our government has a tendency to walk graceful on pin points, I can't see so many errors being done on their account. This story is probably fictional, but I believe there is more to Andrews than reported.
Anywho, back on topic. To be perfectly honest our defenses against natural disasters of such caliber still leave us at mother natures mercy. The only real defense we have is simply not being there. Hurricane Andrew is a perfect example of what would happen if missed our one great advantage. I'm sorry but 21 to 49 people missing is not a realistic number. Either that or Andrew wasn't as bad as I had heard.
My father was a Sergeant in the military, it is not unreasonable to say that the situation was not as horrible as it was for political gain in the Shrub Senior administration. I can see some of the bodies being removed to lighten the load on reporters. It is a sad fact that political agendas do not generally concern themselves with human life.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I can see SOME light to such a story. I would not put it past the Bush Administration to do so, considering the time frame. I also can see a sense of exaggeration to this. Our government has a tendency to walk graceful on pin points, I can't see so many errors being done on their account. This story is probably fictional, but I believe there is more to Andrews than reported.
Charley came and went... Frances is still lingering... and Ivan could potentially hit Florida next weekend...
Charley and Frances hitting in such a short time was history enough, but if Ivan hits, too... Wow...
I can't even begin to imagine what the folks in Florida are thinking or feeling right now...
Charley and Frances hitting in such a short time was history enough, but if Ivan hits, too... Wow...
I can't even begin to imagine what the folks in Florida are thinking or feeling right now...
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