Can we please stop wasting tax dollars trying this guy now?Follow

Because not only was bombing a federal building a federal crime. Murder is a state not federal crime. Thus the murder of 161 people becomes a state crime not federal. So he has to stand trial for the bombing itself and for the state charges of murder. 1 for each person.
This is a good thing actually.
Had he firebomed a church and not blown up half a major building he might have killed say 3 people. Now firebombing is both state and federal and thus would be charged twice. Might actually be elligable for parol in 20 years. But on 3 counts of murder he'd be getting life sentances for that. Thus in that case the state charges would benefit society more. Locking him up for life with no parol.
As for him feeling remorse and appologizing I think that it's a double-edged sword. On one hand it's pointless, he's already going to die in prison so this trial didn't accomplish anything. And so much for a speedy trail by the way. But on the other hand, an actual repentant appology would mean he finnaly found some deciency and a conscience. Too late but better then never. Like Charles Manson.

I believe this was in reference to the hypothetical situation involving a firebombing of a church.



That's the full quote from EQDom. Just to clarify any misunderstanding there might have been.

Nonetheless, I agree that trials such as these serve no purpose than to extend the lives of those sentenced to death. He knows he's going to die, we know he's going to die, just get it over with and be done with all of it. The less money we spend on someone we're going to kill, the better.

Edit: Added opinion.

Edited, Mon Aug 9 14:35:35 2004 by CrimsonPhoenyx

Yes, well...Small oversight on my part. He might as well be dead, he won't be doing anything but rotting in a cell for the rest of his life.

Except, of course, enjoying cable television and the like on taxpayers' dollars. I guess in my haste thinking about how he should have been sentenced to death, I mistakingly believed that he had. Thanks for the correction, Smash.

Just currious how much it costs to put someone to death. Several years ago when I was studying Criminal Justice, it cost around $40,000 dollars a year to house one inmate. I'm sure its gone up a bit by now but multiply that by 20-30 (or more) years thats a big chunk of change. Maybe its less that killing them, I don't really know. I just never understood the point of wasting tax dollars to keep someone alive who will never be released from prison. I understand that prisons are supposed to be really terrible places and I'm sure they are. However my frieds that have been there say that after a couple of years, they tend to back off of the lifers. Unless of course they hurt children or something. Those short-eye types usually don't cost us money for very long...

I say give lifers a period of time to appeal thier sentance, maybe 5 -10 years. After that its lights out. Oh and prisons don't rehabilitate, they educate (crook college).

Edited, Mon Aug 9 15:41:35 2004 by Visagoth

http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/cost.html

It's a biased site, of course, but it gives an idea of the cost.




I believe there should be a death penalty, I just find it idiotic that costs $3 million to throw up continuous red tape and continue to clog courts that are already backed up.

I have no problem with allowing people the right to clear their names. If they are innocent, they should be allowed to prove it, and appeal a guilty verdict.

What annoys me is this: Where does this $3.2 million go? Most of it goes right into the pockets of attorneys, I assume. Nothing like charging gigantic fees because, hey, the taxpayers will pick up the check.

I have no problem with allowing people the right to clear their names. If they are innocent, they should be allowed to prove it, and appeal a guilty verdict.

What annoys me is this: Where does this $3.2 million go? Most of it goes right into the pockets of attorneys, I assume. Nothing like charging gigantic fees because, hey, the taxpayers will pick up the check.


They make a lot less money appealing death penalty cases than they would doing something else.

Trust me lawyers aren't getting rich on the government's dime.

Yep. Prove him guitly, and then bury him up to his neck. Then let everyone saw at his neck with a bamboo saw.

personally, and this is my opinion... that they should lock him in a small room, with a chamberpot.

And upon those walls, Have every inch covered in pictures of the aftermath, pictures of the people who were killed etc. Let him spend the rest of his sanity with those accusations staring back at him.

Either that, or I like the idea of stakin him out and offering 2'4"s to the victim's families.

Now thats an eye for an eye =p

Lol I like this one