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I thought for the past few years nintendo's cube sucked because playstation2 and xbox were much better.Then when I heard of the Nintendo DS and the PSP I said to myself "Wow Look at those graphics!,Goodbye nintendo!"But when I read a quote from Satoru Iwata, It all changed,"The time when horsepower alone made an important difference is over". So I went out to learn more about the DS.I found out it had 2 screens and the bottom one was touchscreen.Then thought to myself With 2 screens,and one being a touchscreen the games will totally be different!Nintendo is smart,they don't care about how many things they can put in a DVD,MP3 ect in one device with the best possible graphics,but they care about giving gamers "out-side-the-box" systems so the gamers get something new every time.The DS will certainly give gamers a fresh breath of air.What do ou guys think?
PSP, third party support makes a system great and Sony has better 3rd party support. This was Segas downfall on the console market and it will be Nintendos as well. The DS will do good though because Nintendo has the name already for portable gaming but my bet is PSP is just going to be better.
I agree, PSP all the way. I mean, have you seen the thing? WOW.
Plus, I don't think the whole "2-screen, touchscreen" thing is so great. The second screen will probably almost always be a map or inventory. And the touch screen? There are only so many ways that the thing can be successfully implemented. Also, think about scratching.
PSP, but the DS will sell bc it has Nintendo names like Mario, Metroid, etc.
Plus, I don't think the whole "2-screen, touchscreen" thing is so great. The second screen will probably almost always be a map or inventory. And the touch screen? There are only so many ways that the thing can be successfully implemented. Also, think about scratching.
PSP, but the DS will sell bc it has Nintendo names like Mario, Metroid, etc.
I am going with the Nintendo DS. I like the fact they are trying something different.
The PSP has moving parts and that's just scary. I think there will be a lot of hardware problems. Also the music that the PSP plays is not MP3 format... it's Sony's new music format. The same goes for their movie format.
The DS is already being listed at some stores with a $179.00 price tag. The PSP is rumored to be $300-$500.
Edited, Thu Jul 22 13:59:33 2004 by Pulseczar
The PSP has moving parts and that's just scary. I think there will be a lot of hardware problems. Also the music that the PSP plays is not MP3 format... it's Sony's new music format. The same goes for their movie format.
The DS is already being listed at some stores with a $179.00 price tag. The PSP is rumored to be $300-$500.
Edited, Thu Jul 22 13:59:33 2004 by Pulseczar
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PSP, third party support makes a system great and Sony has better 3rd party support. This was Segas downfall on the console market and it will be Nintendos as well. The DS will do good though because Nintendo has the name already for portable gaming but my bet is PSP is just going to be better.
/nods.....
The only reason Nintendo has been at the top of the food chain up until 7 years ago was because of the 3rd party support..(it sure wasn't becuase of their technology and inovation) Every new Idea that Nintendo came out with was out dated by the time it hit the market...(tech wise) The only thing that kept it alive was a good Marketing team and 3rd part support. The only thing that will keep this afloat is the Nintendo cults and if they can under cut Sony in the price range.....as for the second screen...all it is used for (From what I have seen) is for maps and inventory use...nothing a quick button press on one screen joby couldn't get access to. ...My bet is on the PSP coming out on top...They have the most support and have a great chunk of the market already.....(Advent children will be on PSP..that rocks!)
nintendo games suck. Go PSP
and Sony systems suck =) I have had so many problems with Sony systems.
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The DS is already being listed at some stores with a $179.00 price tag. The PSP is rumored to be $300-$500.
I think it will top out at $299. If Sony thinks they can sell this thing for $500 they must be out of their minds. Besideds game system manufacturers don't make money off systems they make it off 3rd party license fees. Don't expect it to be more than $300.
Edited, Thu Jul 22 14:55:22 2004 by FigNewton
I think there's more than enough room in the portable gaming market for two systems. Nintendo has basically had carte blanch over the entire scene for years as is evidenced by some of the huge (and stupid) risks they've taken in the past (hello virtual boy), and Sony is coming into it with a product that's currently looking very strong. Sony isn't going anywhere and neither is Nintendo.
Personally, I tend to side with Nintendo simply because they focus on games. Like kikyuras said, they're not trying to make the be-all end-all music/video/game/toaster/dishwasher portable device. Nokia sort of tried to do that with the NGauge and that thing tanked at launch (rightfully so, it sucks). If I go out intending to buy a portable gaming device, that's what I'll get. Not something that's trying to be everything for everyone but is unable to be really good at doing any one particular thing.
For now, I'm adopting the wait and see attitude. Once they're both out and I've either had the chance to read a bunch of reviews or try them out for myself, I'll probably make some kind of decision one way or the other.
Edited, Thu Jul 22 15:31:31 2004 by OnePrime
Personally, I tend to side with Nintendo simply because they focus on games. Like kikyuras said, they're not trying to make the be-all end-all music/video/game/toaster/dishwasher portable device. Nokia sort of tried to do that with the NGauge and that thing tanked at launch (rightfully so, it sucks). If I go out intending to buy a portable gaming device, that's what I'll get. Not something that's trying to be everything for everyone but is unable to be really good at doing any one particular thing.
For now, I'm adopting the wait and see attitude. Once they're both out and I've either had the chance to read a bunch of reviews or try them out for myself, I'll probably make some kind of decision one way or the other.
Edited, Thu Jul 22 15:31:31 2004 by OnePrime
I feel sorry for anyone who thinks PSP is going to beat the DS. Nintendo controls the portable gaming industry and everyone has already tried and failed at taking that monopoly away from them. Some people may say that PSP will win because of its big screen but that is only a novelty that will wear off soon. What a big screen when the games are crap. It just lets you see more crap. Who would pay 49.99 for Ape Escape? DS has the games that people actually want made portable. Animal Crossing DS, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles DS. The Ds has 2 screens, one of which is touch screen, and it's back lit. Its also capable of wireless communication. When you stack the Ds and the PSP together, the DS comes out on top.
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everyone has already tried and failed at taking that monopoly away from them
an1 but the almighty sony
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everyone has already tried and failed at taking that monopoly away from them
People were saying that about the Playstation when it was first launched.
Not to mention the general public's initial reaction to the X-Box.
Given the amazing amount of Sony nuts in Japan the PSP is almost guaranteed a success, simply because of all the Sony zealots.
Nintendo has lived long going on the fact that the Game Boy series is:
a) Cheap
b) Reliable
c) Fan base
d) Best battery life
Now Nintendo has CHEAP nailed down. It is, as mentioned before, only $180. Now, while I don't think the PSP can cost more than $300, that is the same ammount next-gen consoles cost when released.
There currently is no clear winner in reliabilty, because they haven't really been tested side by side at this point...
Nintendo is without a doubt going to get the DS in the hands of their die hard fans. No if, ands, or buts. Nintendo probably has the most reliable (but not largest) fan base of all three hardware companies, and they know that. They have also pretty mush kicked everyone's *** who has opposed them accross the world.
The whole point of portable gaming, is gaming without wires. This means gaming with batteries. The GB series is commonly associated with their INCREDIBLE battery life! Even now, with the SP, they are still improving, and I bet the DS will follow this trend. The other great thing about the SP that will most likely be a function in the DS is the recargable battery! I LOVE that function.
With all this reason why Nintendo would win, you would think they would win.... right? As far as my vote goes....WRONG
The Play Station Portable (PSP) blows the DS completely out of the water when it comes to well... PROTABILITY! From just looking at them, which do you think is more portable. That brings us to our next reason why Nintendo loses my vote...
The DS just looks big, bulky, and not very well made. The buttons are very small for the size of this thing, too.
And the bottom line comes down too... I just don't like the Nintendo line up anymore... There are only two Nintendo character that I like. Link and Samus. Other than that, I don't think I would own many other DS or GC games. That was one fo the reason I got a PS2 and X-Box. I here about a lot of PS2/X-Box games, but I don't commonly here of really blockbusting Multi-Platform games. Sure, there are some exceptions, but they still don't warrant the need for a Game Cube. Anyways, that is getting a little off topic. The reason I like Sony and Microsoft so much is, I like a lot fo their first party/exclusive games (Unreal, Splinter Cell (Always on X-Box first), KOTOR, FSW, MGS, GTA, etc..., etc...) That means there is a library of games that I am wanting. And with lots of Sony's titles going to the PSP, I see no reason not to pick up the system that I want to play.
And also, the PSP can play movies... but really... who wants to watch the Lord of the Rings or other movies like that on a small screen. I mean the PSP was built to be a game platform, not a multi-media PC. So in other words, I would have likes to see them developing it, so it would be here in time to be under the Non-Denominational holidy tree (X-Play viewer will get that :P) and I would be able to waste away in my room playing it. Oh well, I will still wait until the final version of both are out before I consider picking one up... but osmething tells me the PSP will be in my house pretty soon after it comes out!
a) Cheap
b) Reliable
c) Fan base
d) Best battery life
Now Nintendo has CHEAP nailed down. It is, as mentioned before, only $180. Now, while I don't think the PSP can cost more than $300, that is the same ammount next-gen consoles cost when released.
There currently is no clear winner in reliabilty, because they haven't really been tested side by side at this point...
Nintendo is without a doubt going to get the DS in the hands of their die hard fans. No if, ands, or buts. Nintendo probably has the most reliable (but not largest) fan base of all three hardware companies, and they know that. They have also pretty mush kicked everyone's *** who has opposed them accross the world.
The whole point of portable gaming, is gaming without wires. This means gaming with batteries. The GB series is commonly associated with their INCREDIBLE battery life! Even now, with the SP, they are still improving, and I bet the DS will follow this trend. The other great thing about the SP that will most likely be a function in the DS is the recargable battery! I LOVE that function.
With all this reason why Nintendo would win, you would think they would win.... right? As far as my vote goes....WRONG
The Play Station Portable (PSP) blows the DS completely out of the water when it comes to well... PROTABILITY! From just looking at them, which do you think is more portable. That brings us to our next reason why Nintendo loses my vote...
The DS just looks big, bulky, and not very well made. The buttons are very small for the size of this thing, too.
And the bottom line comes down too... I just don't like the Nintendo line up anymore... There are only two Nintendo character that I like. Link and Samus. Other than that, I don't think I would own many other DS or GC games. That was one fo the reason I got a PS2 and X-Box. I here about a lot of PS2/X-Box games, but I don't commonly here of really blockbusting Multi-Platform games. Sure, there are some exceptions, but they still don't warrant the need for a Game Cube. Anyways, that is getting a little off topic. The reason I like Sony and Microsoft so much is, I like a lot fo their first party/exclusive games (Unreal, Splinter Cell (Always on X-Box first), KOTOR, FSW, MGS, GTA, etc..., etc...) That means there is a library of games that I am wanting. And with lots of Sony's titles going to the PSP, I see no reason not to pick up the system that I want to play.
And also, the PSP can play movies... but really... who wants to watch the Lord of the Rings or other movies like that on a small screen. I mean the PSP was built to be a game platform, not a multi-media PC. So in other words, I would have likes to see them developing it, so it would be here in time to be under the Non-Denominational holidy tree (X-Play viewer will get that :P) and I would be able to waste away in my room playing it. Oh well, I will still wait until the final version of both are out before I consider picking one up... but osmething tells me the PSP will be in my house pretty soon after it comes out!
yeah and really we all know that the psp will have better graphic and will cost more (aroun 200-300)
but cmon with gran turismo 4 portable, mgs and all those games(99+ dev) it will dp great
(the xb had the same thing going on but they failed(dont ask me y)
the ds will be the end of nintendo's over confidence in handheld (nintendo will still be the number 1 in handheld but it wont be the microsoft of ..)
but i have to say that the dual screen thing is cool , and i heard that u can use it as a pda(but then again the psp has an advantage as being one)
ya and since the ds uses the gba cartage and those crd thingy u might be able to play a game and listen to some music at the same time
but cmon with gran turismo 4 portable, mgs and all those games(99+ dev) it will dp great
(the xb had the same thing going on but they failed(dont ask me y)
the ds will be the end of nintendo's over confidence in handheld (nintendo will still be the number 1 in handheld but it wont be the microsoft of ..)
but i have to say that the dual screen thing is cool , and i heard that u can use it as a pda(but then again the psp has an advantage as being one)
ya and since the ds uses the gba cartage and those crd thingy u might be able to play a game and listen to some music at the same time
Can anyone imagine what Microsofts portable will be like o.0
X-Box Portable
System spec:
*Stuff that kicks the s*** right out of the PSP and DS*
Battery Life: approx 2-3 seconds
Size: 18" x 12" x 6"
Other Notes:
- Requires a TV with AV plugs
- Recharable battery
- Seperate controls are availibe for multi-player gaming
- Ethernet ports located on the back of the system.
- Is backwards compatible with all X-Box games
- Has rolling wheel on one corner
- Has a extendable handle on the oppisate corner
- Is avaible with leather, fabric, or plastic casing
- Can have pockets put on it.
Can you guess what it is?
An X-Box in a suitcase :P
X-Box Portable
System spec:
*Stuff that kicks the s*** right out of the PSP and DS*
Battery Life: approx 2-3 seconds
Size: 18" x 12" x 6"
Other Notes:
- Requires a TV with AV plugs
- Recharable battery
- Seperate controls are availibe for multi-player gaming
- Ethernet ports located on the back of the system.
- Is backwards compatible with all X-Box games
- Has rolling wheel on one corner
- Has a extendable handle on the oppisate corner
- Is avaible with leather, fabric, or plastic casing
- Can have pockets put on it.
Can you guess what it is?
An X-Box in a suitcase :P
no xb portable until ms starts making money off of home entertainement(they r still loosing money on every xb thy sell)
that made me lol tho
Edited, Thu Jul 22 22:31:12 2004 by aleandro
that made me lol tho
Edited, Thu Jul 22 22:31:12 2004 by aleandro
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(the xb had the same thing going on but they failed(dont ask me y)
What is that supposed to mean? By no means has the X-Box failed. If I recall, they have the fastest growing internet service EVER associated with them (Just resently, X-Box Live got it's millionth subscriber, surpasing AOL as the fastest service to get 1,000,000 customers). It has had many game fo the year titles (according to different sources on it), including Halo, The Elder Scrolls III, and Knights of the Old Republic (Halo and KOTOR both first came out on the X-Box and moved to the PC 1 year later. ES III moved to the X-Box about 2 and 1/2 years after realease). The three most anticipated games at the Elctronic Entertainment Expo are all coming out on the X-Box (Those were Half-Life 2, Halo 2, and Doom 3, which all have spots in my library-o-games reserved for them). Arguably the best single player RPG in history (Fable) will debue on the X-Box. Both Splinter Cell games were first seen on the X-Box. Splinter Cell 3 will most likely come out on the X-Box also. The X-Box is commonly thought to have superior graphics than the other two next-gen consoles. The X-Box is a sturdier console (I've learned that after dropping both my PS2 and X-Box on several accidental occasions... X-Box works great, had to replace PS2....). I think with the most impressive game library (to me at least), superior graphics in what I've seen it compared to, the largest online community in console gaming, and the ease of modding it, the X-Box will always be moving strongly in the American Market, and as far as I'm conserned, the American market is Microsoft's target audience.
Anyways, I'm starting to sounds like an X-Box fanb....
I'll stop now...
PS: I will be selling XBPs for the price of about 3 grand if anyone wants one :)
Edited, Thu Jul 22 22:40:00 2004 by SplinterCellDude
i also thinck sony will fool us by trying to make it look cheap using the add-ons strategie(just like thy did with the ps2)
and to fix the bug they will mae different versions(like the diff ps2)
by the way thinck that the psp music media thing will work like the sony md player(it uses the atract format) all you will need it the software to convert fro mp3 or mpeg to the desired format(which is prety ez to do )
the ds is a plain simple handheld gaming machine the psp is the multimedia take over plan of sony
choose ur winer
and to fix the bug they will mae different versions(like the diff ps2)
by the way thinck that the psp music media thing will work like the sony md player(it uses the atract format) all you will need it the software to convert fro mp3 or mpeg to the desired format(which is prety ez to do )
the ds is a plain simple handheld gaming machine the psp is the multimedia take over plan of sony
choose ur winer
yeah and to sprinter cell dude
ps2 sold over 70 millions of unit
xb sold less than 20 millions
ps2 online has more customer than xblive
xblive has a way better service
microsoft is still loosing money on every single xbox
i am not arguing that the xb has way more power cuz i know the xb is way more powerful but u have to admit the ps2 beat the .... out of the xbox
ps2 sold over 70 millions of unit
xb sold less than 20 millions
ps2 online has more customer than xblive
xblive has a way better service
microsoft is still loosing money on every single xbox
i am not arguing that the xb has way more power cuz i know the xb is way more powerful but u have to admit the ps2 beat the .... out of the xbox
SplinterCellDude wrote:
The Play Station Portable (PSP) blows the DS completely out of the water when it comes to well... PROTABILITY! From just looking at them, which do you think is more portable.
I'm sure the DS can fold.
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It has had many game fo the year titles
As long as you don't include that Spike Tv crap. They gave awards to whoever would send down some strippers.
I think the PSP is trying to do too many things at once. Movies, games, music, plastic surgeon, ect ect. When you pile on too many things it ends up taking away from everything else. I'd be surprised if there arent a monumental amount of people who have to get thier PSP fixed after only a short while of using it.
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and Sony systems suck =) I have had so many problems with Sony systems.
I agree. Every once in awhile my PS2 decides it only wants to play Playstation games. Never had any problems with my Game Cube or Xbox. (Though I was a bit put off that you have to get a special kit to play dvds on Xbox.)
i got the 39001 i bought it in xmas 02 and never had a problem with it it has been compatible with everything i throwed at it
sony is trying to do a lot of stuff at the same time but i thinck they know what they are doing and that they will ntroduce diff kind of psp at diff prices
basic psp (plays games,listen to musik, blablabla)
psp with media capabilities (plays movies,take pictures, can record ur own musik blablabla)
psp clie enchanced(pda) (better os, pda stuff0
Edited, Fri Jul 23 00:27:51 2004 by aleandro
sony is trying to do a lot of stuff at the same time but i thinck they know what they are doing and that they will ntroduce diff kind of psp at diff prices
basic psp (plays games,listen to musik, blablabla)
psp with media capabilities (plays movies,take pictures, can record ur own musik blablabla)
psp clie enchanced(pda) (better os, pda stuff0
Edited, Fri Jul 23 00:27:51 2004 by aleandro
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yeah and to sprinter cell dude
ps2 sold over 70 millions of unit
xb sold less than 20 millions
ps2 online has more customer than xblive
xblive has a way better service
microsoft is still loosing money on every single xbox
ps2 sold over 70 millions of unit
xb sold less than 20 millions
ps2 online has more customer than xblive
xblive has a way better service
microsoft is still loosing money on every single xbox
True PS2 has sold much mroe than the X-Box, but that is looking at world-wide sales (which I don't really care about) In America, the X-Box is much closer to the PS2, last I heard. Live, is larger I believe, and, as you say, is a much more user friendly and has better service. Also, Live has WAYYYY more online titles. The only game that I would ever play online with my PS2 would be SOCOM II. I already have a slew of games that I can play once I get Live (I've had it for a year now, but haven't hooked it up yet, sicne we couldn't find a good wireless device for it)
Of course, it is obvious Sony makes much more money from the PS2 that Microsoft will ever make on the X-Box, but romours say, X-Box II will be the most powerful of the three up coming consoles (no suprise there...), but it will ALSO be the first to come out, much like the PS2, and will hopefully dominate the American market and get a nice slice of the Japanese one as well! Remember, those are just a rumor that I heard on G4TV.com, so don't hold it as teh gospel truth!
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I'm sure the DS can fold.
I'm quite sure ti can fold too, but you have to admit, the PSP is much smaller, and just looks easier to carry.
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As long as you don't include that Spike Tv crap. They gave awards to whoever would send down some strippers.
Um.... does Spike TV even know what a video game is. Anyways, I'm looking at my GOTY edition of Morrowind, I have seen the Game Spy article and many others announcing the KOTOR was there GOTY, and the same goes for Halo.
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I think the PSP is trying to do too many things at once. Movies, games, music, plastic surgeon, ect ect. When you pile on too many things it ends up taking away from everything else. I'd be surprised if there arent a monumental amount of people who have to get thier PSP fixed after only a short while of using it.
Couldn't agree with you more. If I want to watch a move on the go, I would rather watch on a 7" portable DVD player, not a 3"-4" PSP screen. And I got an MP3 player to listen to music. SO why the heck does Sony want to put those features in! Give ti more battery live. Make it look as good as the PS2! Get it to us earlier! I DONNO, just don't waste my time by putting in stupid feature me, and lots fo the market could care less about!
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I agree. Every once in awhile my PS2 decides it only wants to play Playstation games. Never had any problems with my Game Cube or Xbox. (Though I was a bit put off that you have to get a special kit to play dvds on Xbox.)
After having my PS2 for about...2 and 1/2 years.... I got a message when playing GTA:VC. ERROR: Disc Read Error. So, I pop it out, and put in Dark Cloud. DISC READ ERROR. And with that, my PS2 sat on my shelf for about half a year until I heard a tip on the Screen Savers on how to fix it. I take apart my PS2, adjust the readers distance from the disc, and voila! IT WORKED! A month later VOILA! It stopped working again! I opened it up, and sure enough, the reader had fallen out of position. That day, I fixed it, tried it, it worked. The next day, it was broken. I didn't want to have to open my PS2, adjust it, and put it back together just to play it! We had to get a new PS2 to replace our peice of crap, borken one, but it hasn't got too much loving. Sure I'm looking forward to a few PS2 titles (MGS III, GTA:SA, and SOCOM III?), but that compared to the list of X-Box and PC games I want... (Half-Life II, Counter-Stirke II, Halo II, Doom III, Star Wars: Battlefront, SWG:JTL, Star Wars: Republic Commandos, Mercenaries, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, MxO, MEO, Max Payne III?, TES IV?, and the list goes on....)
As you can see, I have lost a lot of my faith in Sony that they can make a reliable console... My X-Box is getting around the age my PS2 was.. and other than a few audio problems in Full Spectrum Warrior, it works like a charm!
PS: I'm buying the damn gaming PSP!!
actually the ps2 has beaten the xbox in every region known to mankind
(i would give you the link but i have been banned of the playstation.com forum which the link to the webpage)
but like i said i cannot disagree the xbox games are way better (services too)
now about the next generation i heard that the xb2 will use somekind of dual procesor(g5 kinda like) which will make it not really affordable(but who knows)
and that sony will use the cell technology on their next platform (which is said to be 1000 time more powerful than the ps2 which i doubt)
but my guess is that there wont be any big gap of power between the too .
the software will determine which will win ,of what i heard the xb2 wont be able to play xb games but the ps3 will have the ability to read ps2 games
plust we all know that the library makes the console so whoever has more games will get the gold
(i would give you the link but i have been banned of the playstation.com forum which the link to the webpage)
but like i said i cannot disagree the xbox games are way better (services too)
now about the next generation i heard that the xb2 will use somekind of dual procesor(g5 kinda like) which will make it not really affordable(but who knows)
and that sony will use the cell technology on their next platform (which is said to be 1000 time more powerful than the ps2 which i doubt)
but my guess is that there wont be any big gap of power between the too .
the software will determine which will win ,of what i heard the xb2 wont be able to play xb games but the ps3 will have the ability to read ps2 games
plust we all know that the library makes the console so whoever has more games will get the gold
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