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Who do you think would win?
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Posted: Jun 29 2004 at 6:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think the doctor should have slapped your mom when you popped out.
Thor!
But not the Norse mythos Thor. The Marvel Comics one.
But not the Norse mythos Thor. The Marvel Comics one.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Ganesh
"Stop chasing Ganesh, you're just going to get more wrath!"
Edited, Tue Jun 29 19:50:03 2004 by trickybeck
Um... You are aware that God and Allah are just two names for the same deity right?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
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Who do you think would win?
I think we are going to find out!
Fantasy scenario with 2 imaginary beings, you can have any winner you like 
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But not the Norse mythos Thor. The Marvel Comics one.
I think they are the same.
Bob would just whip the winners ***.
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Um... You are aware that God and Allah are just two names for the same deity right?
Um...not really. "God" in the Christian sense has a Son named Jesus Christ, and His Holy Spirit is in the earth today. Allah has no such things.
I'm pretty sure the collected tales of Norse mythology never have Thor doing battle with The Hulk 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
bah Tricky beat me to the Ganesh call, its either Ganesh or Krishna.
Come on when on the field of Kuru when Arjuna stood between the arrayed forces of the Pandavas and Kauravas and had his moment of doubt good ole Krishna layed down the word and showed himself to be infinite and composed of all beings. Pretty much the entire universe.
When God shows up all he is, is a burning bush and i dont even know what Allah.
So yeah my bets on Krishna.
Come on when on the field of Kuru when Arjuna stood between the arrayed forces of the Pandavas and Kauravas and had his moment of doubt good ole Krishna layed down the word and showed himself to be infinite and composed of all beings. Pretty much the entire universe.
When God shows up all he is, is a burning bush and i dont even know what Allah.
So yeah my bets on Krishna.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Um...not really. "God" in the Christian sense has a Son named Jesus Christ, and His Holy Spirit is in the earth today. Allah has no such things.
Um really. Read the Koran. Muslim's accept Christ as a prophet of Allah. Same God, disputes over the details.
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God has Jesus, Allah has Muhammed (sp?) sound similar enough?
One in the same, my man, one in the same.
One in the same, my man, one in the same.
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God has Jesus, Allah has Muhammed (sp?) sound similar enough?
One in the same, my man, one in the same.
One in the same, my man, one in the same.
Jesus was the son of God. Mohammed was just a guy doing some preaching and prophet work. Not trashing Mohammed or Islam but i think if you were gonna compare Mohammed to someone in the bibe it would have to be one of the many prophets from the old testament.
As a matter of fact the Koran goes out of its way to state that Mohammed was just a man preaching Gods word. In the bible you got Jesus is a part of the holy trinity and more than man the son of god.
Both preached the word of god yes for there respective faiths but how each fits into the faith is vastly different.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Jesus was gay.
Grady
Grady
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix, angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machin ery of night.
So was your priest.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Jesus was the son of God. Mohammed was just a guy doing some preaching and prophet work. Not trashing Mohammed or Islam but i think if you were gonna compare Mohammed to someone in the bibe it would have to be one of the many prophets from the old testament.
Muslims would tell you Jesus was misguided.
Of the three major religions that all belive in the same God, only one of them is composed of people gulliable enough to accept that Christ was God's "son".
Muslim's my buy that whole blowing yourself up for 72 virgins thing, but even they said:
"Oh sure, there're 72 virgins waiting for matyrs in paradise, but God knocking up some sheep hearder's wife? *****, please."
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True enough.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
1 sec i thought god was jesus (sorta i dunno just felt like typing)
I think it would be a hard fight then buddah (hmmm i think thats the spelling) would come in and kill em both mwa mwa mwa mwa mwa
I think it would be a hard fight then buddah (hmmm i think thats the spelling) would come in and kill em both mwa mwa mwa mwa mwa
It depends upon who you let tell you what to belive.
Depending upon who's relating the fairy tale, Christ is a man, God's son, God, or just this mediocre carpenter.
Depending upon who's relating the fairy tale, Christ is a man, God's son, God, or just this mediocre carpenter.
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Just a few points:
Jesus was the son of God. Mohammed was just a guy doing some preaching and prophet work. Not trashing Mohammed or Islam but i think if you were gonna compare Mohammed to someone in the bibe it would have to be one of the many prophets from the old testament.
It's a silly comparison though. From the Muslim point of view, Jesus is just another prophet. Thus, in the Koran both are of similar importance (along with Moses, and all the other figures from the old testiment). You talk about the people in the Old Testiment as less important the Jesus, but that's because to christians Jesus is the centerpiece of "their book". Since the Koran is newer then the New Testament, Mohammed is of more importance in that book. It's a New-new Testament if you want to think of it that way. Muslims look on Jesus in exactly the same way you look at a figure like Ezekiel or Abraham or Moses. Important to earlier worshipers of god, but not as important as your prophet.
Remember, the OT is about God from the perspective of the Jews. The NT is an add on work by the Christians. Same god. They just add Jesus. The Koran is still the same god. They just add Muhammed.
Actually, so does the New Testament. How often does Jesus correct his disciples when they refer to him as the "son of god", and he says he's just the "son of man"? On several ocasions Jesus rebuks those who try to attribute divinity to him. Jesus tried really hard to convince his followers that he was really just a man with a essage (ie: a prophet. although he doesn't even accept that title himself, just Rabi). Everything in the NT about Jesus being god commes after he dies and is made up by his followers. The concept of the trinity doesn't appear until centuries later. It is not in any of the gospels, I know. I'm reasonably sure it doesn't appear at all in the NT.
Which would be great if this was a "Jesus vs Muhammed" thread. But it's not. God and Allah are exactly the same deity. Always have been. They're just two diffeent works for the same thing.
Edited, Wed Jun 30 16:44:16 2004 by gbaji
bhodisattva Defender of Justice wrote:
Jesus was the son of God. Mohammed was just a guy doing some preaching and prophet work. Not trashing Mohammed or Islam but i think if you were gonna compare Mohammed to someone in the bibe it would have to be one of the many prophets from the old testament.
It's a silly comparison though. From the Muslim point of view, Jesus is just another prophet. Thus, in the Koran both are of similar importance (along with Moses, and all the other figures from the old testiment). You talk about the people in the Old Testiment as less important the Jesus, but that's because to christians Jesus is the centerpiece of "their book". Since the Koran is newer then the New Testament, Mohammed is of more importance in that book. It's a New-new Testament if you want to think of it that way. Muslims look on Jesus in exactly the same way you look at a figure like Ezekiel or Abraham or Moses. Important to earlier worshipers of god, but not as important as your prophet.
Remember, the OT is about God from the perspective of the Jews. The NT is an add on work by the Christians. Same god. They just add Jesus. The Koran is still the same god. They just add Muhammed.
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As a matter of fact the Koran goes out of its way to state that Mohammed was just a man preaching Gods word. In the bible you got Jesus is a part of the holy trinity and more than man the son of god.
Actually, so does the New Testament. How often does Jesus correct his disciples when they refer to him as the "son of god", and he says he's just the "son of man"? On several ocasions Jesus rebuks those who try to attribute divinity to him. Jesus tried really hard to convince his followers that he was really just a man with a essage (ie: a prophet. although he doesn't even accept that title himself, just Rabi). Everything in the NT about Jesus being god commes after he dies and is made up by his followers. The concept of the trinity doesn't appear until centuries later. It is not in any of the gospels, I know. I'm reasonably sure it doesn't appear at all in the NT.
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Both preached the word of god yes for there respective faiths but how each fits into the faith is vastly different.
Which would be great if this was a "Jesus vs Muhammed" thread. But it's not. God and Allah are exactly the same deity. Always have been. They're just two diffeent works for the same thing.
Edited, Wed Jun 30 16:44:16 2004 by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Oh, sweet Christ on a cracker, who cares? This thread doesn't even deserve the theological debate.
Idliragijenget wins, three rounds.
Gbaji is wrong, btw.. heheh
Edited, Wed Jun 30 17:08:33 2004 by Jophiel
Idliragijenget wins, three rounds.
Gbaji is wrong, btw.. heheh
Edited, Wed Jun 30 17:08:33 2004 by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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On several ocasions Jesus rebuks those who try to attribute divinity to him. Jesus tried really hard to convince his followers that he was really just a man with a essage (ie: a prophet. although he doesn't even accept that title himself, just Rabi). Everything in the NT about Jesus being god commes after he dies and is made up by his followers. The concept of the trinity doesn't appear until centuries later. It is not in any of the gospels, I know. I'm reasonably sure it doesn't appear at all in the NT.
somone didn't pay attention in Sunday school.
Some basic theology:
Allah, and "God" are just different names for the same god, Jehovah (or Yah-weh if you want to get technical). This is the god that confronted Abraham. Abraham fathered 2 sons, both of which he fostered with his teachings: Ishmael, and Isaac. However, Abraham banished Ishmael and his mother (I can't remember why) and left them in a desert to fend, while keeping Isaac. Isaac is related to the founding of Judaism, and Ishmael to Islam. Both pay homage to the same god, they just call him different names, and respect the teachings of different "prophets."
Also, as for the Jesus being the son of god thing... we must also remember that according to the old testament, and even to the new testament, Jesus does never refer to himself as the son of god. When confronted by the Pharyces(sp?) and asked if he is the son of God, his fatal response was "If you believe I am, then I am."
Edited, Wed Jun 30 18:20:37 2004 by scubamage
Allah, and "God" are just different names for the same god, Jehovah (or Yah-weh if you want to get technical). This is the god that confronted Abraham. Abraham fathered 2 sons, both of which he fostered with his teachings: Ishmael, and Isaac. However, Abraham banished Ishmael and his mother (I can't remember why) and left them in a desert to fend, while keeping Isaac. Isaac is related to the founding of Judaism, and Ishmael to Islam. Both pay homage to the same god, they just call him different names, and respect the teachings of different "prophets."
Also, as for the Jesus being the son of god thing... we must also remember that according to the old testament, and even to the new testament, Jesus does never refer to himself as the son of god. When confronted by the Pharyces(sp?) and asked if he is the son of God, his fatal response was "If you believe I am, then I am."
Edited, Wed Jun 30 18:20:37 2004 by scubamage
Actually, so does the New Testament. How often does Jesus correct his disciples when they refer to him as the "son of god", and he says he's just the "son of man"? On several ocasions Jesus rebuks those who try to attribute divinity to him. Jesus tried really hard to convince his followers that he was really just a man with a essage (ie: a prophet. although he doesn't even accept that title himself, just Rabi). Everything in the NT about Jesus being god commes after he dies and is made up by his followers.
Except for the numerous times when he refers to himself as the son of God.
Do you ever actually research things, or just go with what you've picked up from TV Guide pretty much all the time?
Just curious.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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