How important is proper grammar/spelling?Follow

Uhm...singforu, IF you claim youre as intelligent as you say,(average iq = 100 at a normal person)
You wouldnt write wHankerz, i mean its uneccesary to add the H, and you are a man of shorten the words you write, btw Noone ever flamed YOU, I can see your post shine a long way from here, and it shine of very little thoughtoutness....

Btw what I mean above is that you dont have to be dumb even if you cant write proper languages, thats just one of 7 ways to rate the IQ, everyone has their strong sides, and weak sides there.(or atleast most ppl do)

Never used it...AND I can see you never done so either...

So true! I have staff that work for me that are not the world's greatest writers, yet they still have to put out reports that may end up being read by a judge or an elected official. In these cases, proper writing is essential. A professional product that is poorly done sends the message that the writer either did not know what he was doing or did not care. Either one is disasterous.

Spelling and grammar checkers make "programmed suggestions." If you don't have enough knowledge to accept the right suggestions, your product is worse than worthless.

However, in a chat room or in game when you're trying to get a message out quickly 'cause there's mobs beating on you - gd grmmr not req.

proper gramming and spelling when having a conversation doesnt really matter as long as your understanable, but when your at work or something serious or professional its very important.

just because i type poorly sometimes doesnt mean im stupid, all it means is that i dont give a sh*t ;)

I can go with that. However, forgive me if I don't bother reading your posts if there are loads of mistakes in it. A post laden with improper spelling and punctuation isn't worth my time to read. It doesn't have to be perfect, just comprehensible.

If you use propper grammer in EQ, it makes you look smart.Try and refrain from using.
"omg ill c u later. ur so kewl." etc etc

Edited, Wed May 12 20:03:36 2004 by Cygar

Well well... looks like I opened a can of worms here. ^_^;

I stand by my first post, in that I think how someone writes reflects their intelligence. I don't pass my stuff through a spell checker (unless I don't know how to spell a word!) or a grammar checker, so bite me Singforu. I don't really care if you think you're smarter than I am. Keep thinking I'm some **** eliteist... whatever. I was just seeing if people thought using "neways ill c u l8r!" was annoying, not if you thought I was a "whanker".

[quote Kelvyquayo]wahtever.... do you judge people based on hair styles and clothing you don't like too?

waht if they talk in a different dialect?... would you say all peopele in Appalacia <(sp) are stupid because they can't pronounce words like you do.?

it's an elitist attitude right there. [/quote]

Yes, I do judge people on their hairstyles and clothing. So what? I'm allowed to ya know... If someone walks by with a mohawk, I'm allowed to assume they're a "punk", or if they walk by in a suit, I'm allowed to assume their a upstanding business man. I could be wrong, but who ******* cares?
I never said anything about people speaking another dialect or language, and if that was the case I wouldn't be quite as critical of their writing. But I'm ASSUMING that most people here speak English and have taken a few classes in school for writing properly.

Heres the deal, for all you people quick to judge:

I think its lazy to shorten most words (ur, l8r), and it makes you look like an idiot to me. Thats what I see.

I don't care if you use things like "BRB OMG WTF" online or otherwise, as thats the same as shortening something like the NAACP; you shorten it so its not so cumbersome to say. (and yes, I did check to see if I spelled cumbersome right!)

Punctuation is important, I don't care how much of a hurry you are in. I'm not expecting everyone to use apostraphes and semicolons, but I do expect them to at least use periods and commas.

/sigh

Think what you want of me, I don't really care. ^_^
I just wanted to see what others felt, and apparently we have three groups here:

1) Agrees that punctuation/grammar/spelling is somewhat important.

2) Believes that punctuation/grammar/spelling are important, but only in professional settings.

3) People who like to put others down and believe that I am an "elitist" and a "whanker".

Then WHY ARE YE READING THEM!!!!!!! If ye no like our post cuz we dont write to YOUR friggin snobbish standards, why are ye reading them! I know ye are reading them! We all know ye are.
Ye can't resist it!

Why, you're reading this post now! HUH! sure ye are!

This post has numerous spilling errors and chalk full of grammar mistakes, etc... So, ye beeter not reply to this post, ye beeter not infer in anywayz to this post. IF you do, it means ye just read it and ye just a sissy act and hippocrit!

PS...

So, just how many mistake are we allowed to be comprehensible, so our posts can be read by yer highness?

Umm...this was written as a speech and not as prose. Give Abe a break, he was riding on a 19th century train from Washington to Gettysburg and had a lot on his mind.

If he had a palm pilot he may have written...
4 score & 7 years ago, r 4fathers put 4th upon this continent etc.

I rarely use abbreviations in my typing, nor do I use a word-check or grammar check very often. I will if I'm writing a paper that I have to turn in, just in case, but I rarely listen to the grammar check on Word, since it makes worse mistakes than I do, and half the time, the spell check doesn't have the word I'm trying to spell anyway. Stupid microsoft word.

I don't type poorly or use abbreviations not because I don't want to fall into a "bad habit", but because I want to type the way I should.

I type very fast, and I learned how to type properly. I worked as a typist for a newspaper and as a secretary, and then when I got into school, I had a lot of typing to do for papers, and my own hobby is writing short stories (with the intention of one day writing a real novel...). So, I started out by typing properly and I continued to type properly to the point that I have to make a determined effort to type improperly. So, for other people, they have to make an effort to type properly, and they don't if they don't have to. I have to make an effort to type improperly, so I don't if I don't have to. :)

My grammar likely isn't one hundred percent perfect. But it is readable. I don't use ; and :'s properly, and I'm told I overuse the , ... , but I'd rather overuse than underuse, so long as I don't go overboard, and, start, doing, something, like, this (which I can see a certain someone on this thread doing, just to prove a point :).

I learned to type properly, and while I don't look down on others who use abbreviations, "ur", "l8r", etc, I also won't use them. Why? Call me a snob if you will, but I also don't use "ain't", "my moms" and other incorrect ways of speaking. I wasn't brought up that way. So, I never used it, and I don't use it, and I won't ever use it (unless I'm writing dialogue for a character or something like that). Does that make people who use things like that stupid? No. My brother can't spell or type properly and he's pretty smart. My mother has atrocious spelling and she's pretty smart. I went to college with someone who used "my moms" consistently and it drove me nuts, but she was very smart.

The only times I ever abbreviate things is when I'm on a board or game where there's a limit to how much you can type in a single message (like FFXI, where you have two lines), and if I'm in a rush, I'll use common abbreviations like lvl and ppl. I still don't use ur and l8r, though. I do use LOL, BRB, AFK, etc, because those aren't contracted words, they're acronyms for something. (Yes, I know acronyms are usually things like L.A.S.E.R and R.A.D.A.R. and B.R.B doesn't count because you can't pronounce BRB in a sentence (well, you could try...) but I don't remember what the real term for BRB and AFK and the like are.)

And.. I am QUEEN OF THE RUN ON SENTENCE! However, my sentences are punctuated properly and I like paragraphs. Paragraphs are my friend.
Pretty paragraphs...

Ahem..
Sorry. I like ,'s, parenthesized comments, and paragraphs. :) I tend to wax eloquent about them, when I have to talk about grammar at all. ;)

*giggle* Thanks for the bowing down? Really, not necessary though. At least wear knee-pads or something! ;)

Trendiness and hipness aside, quality writing shows the true measure of a writer. Such strength of character includes proper spelling, syntax, grammar, and when done well, a deviation from said rules to provide a sense of style so as to give a distinct signature to a post.

Yes, I am an internet snob and the vast majority of you FFXIers are beneath me. Deal with it.

Totem