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Yes lol 700 viruses, and 1500 spyware... btw how can i get rid of my spyware, adaware and spybot aint working...

I'm fairly certain my watch is 200Mhz.

I had a Mac with 4mb ram once.

It took 4 minutes and 27 seconds for Windows to fully boot up, it also booted up with 10 explorer windows open already, because of the spyware and virii.

I was not happy.

Eventually got Norton and Adaware to install on there, which is how I found out how many virii and spyware there was. Before I hooked it up to the network though, I unplugged everything thing else from the router, just to make sure nothing got spread.

As much as I'd like to do that, Smash, I need Windows to run many of the games that I am hopelessly addicted to.

Curse the Man.

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After years of dealing with HPs from my parents, I finally saved up and built my own, made just for me.

It feels good now, because it's not a big hunk of plastic. My mom's HP case is friggin' huge, but yet when you get inside it, you notice that the only reason it's huge is for all of the HP designed aesthetics around it, for instance... a 4 inch plastic barrier on the front, covering the floppy drive in plastic. Besides that, most of them come overpriced with very bad deals nowadays. I built my PC for about 1000$, and I got everything I wanted. GREAT video card, great audigy soundcard, Logitech speaker system (Z-5300s rock and they are affordable), a very nice black case, and a load of other stuff. Yet you go and see a price on a new pc at about 999.99$ and it consists of 2.4ghz (Mine is 2.8) 512 ram (1024mb here), and get this... ADVANCED GRAPHICS TECHNOLOGY.

My friends had the ADVANCED GRAPHICS TECHNOLOGY on the front when his parents bought it, and guess what... when I went down there and he had bought a brand new Geforce 4 Ti4600, turns out he did not even have an AGP slot on his motherboard, that's how cheap these Hewlett Packard people are.

Okay, just my two cents. I'll never buy a pc again, unless it's built at my hands. Not even an alienware, I don't have 2300 dollars for a PC that glows.

Hey Cwas, what part of Memphis you from? I was born there.

add Sony Viao to that list too. all 3 are horrid to work on, and i now just tell the customer to either deal with manufacture, or let me build them a new one.

HPs and Compaq (aren't they the same company now?) are really built for the corporate market, not the home one. They have non-standard parts, are expensive, and are a pain in the butt to work on. However, they can much more easily survive being stacked into a moving truck and manhandled and still come out on the other end working. If you look inside the cases, all those extra fixtures that are a pain in the butt to deal with serve to hold all the cards in place and absorb shock to the box itself.

All the other stuff (like needing proprietary boot floppies to make bios changes and such) are things that are needed/wanted in the corporate world. You don't want joe average user rebooting his machine and accidentally turning it into a toaster because he started randomly hitting buttons. The non-standard bits and custom fittings help to keep down parts theft (if it wont fit in your computer at home, you probably wont steal it).

There is about zero reason or need for a home user to want a system like that. However, for purely cost savings reasons, they sell them to the home market. Once they've designed all those custom bits and tooled up their factories to make them, why on earth change them for the home user? Don't buy them. Heck. I avoid buying any computer with a name brand on the front. You're usually just asking for trouble...