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#1 Apr 30 2004 at 2:18 AM Rating: Good
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Compare and Contrast.

For ease of posting, here is an abbreviated list:

 
West Coast                  East Coast 
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Big Pun                     Busta Rhymes 
Coolio                      De La Soul   
Cypress Hill                DMX 
Digital Underground         Ghostface Killah    
Dr. Dre                     Grandmaster Flash 
Eazy-E                      House of Pain  
Ice Cube                    Jay-Z  
Ice-T                       Lil Kim    
Kurupt                      LL Cool J 
MC Hammer                   Method Man   
Nate Dogg                   Mobb Deep  
N.W.A.                      Mos Def  
Pharcyde                    Naughty by Nature 
Snoop Doggy Dogg            Notorious B.I.G. 
Tone Loc                    Ol' Dirty *******  
Tupac Shakur                P. Diddy 
Warren G                    Public Enemy  
Xzibit                      Queen Latifah  
                            Redman  
                            Run-D.M.C.  
                            RZA   
                            The Sugarhill Gang  
                            A Tribe Called Quest  
                            Wu-Tang Clan  
                            Wyclef Jean 
 
 
 
 




Possible points to discuss include:
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. Freestyle Skillz
. Longevity
. Street Cred
. Album Sales
. Influence
. Best Martyr
. Hand Gun Accuracy
. Pimptasticness



And remember, "Tha Dirty South" is not an option



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#2 Apr 30 2004 at 2:26 AM Rating: Good
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Tone Loc and MC Hammer on same list as Eazy E and 2pac?

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#3 Apr 30 2004 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't make the list, just grabbed it off some website. I'm a non-discriminatory rapper-list-maker.
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#4 Apr 30 2004 at 2:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not to split hairs or anything, but wouldn't this thread have been more relevant five, ten years ago?
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Not to split hairs or anything, but wouldn't this thread have been more relevant five, ten years ago?


Not really. Rap universally sucks di[i][/i]ck.
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#6 Apr 30 2004 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry Im more of a Dirt South and Detroit person myself, as long as it has nothing to do with the icp
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#7 Apr 30 2004 at 4:16 AM Rating: Good
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Not to split hairs or anything, but wouldn't this thread have been more relevant five, ten years ago?


Not really. Rap universally sucks di[i][/i]ck.


OMG psycho! A post of yours I couldn't resist rating upSmiley: grin
#8 May 02 2004 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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#9 May 02 2004 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
Hey, where's Vanilla Ice!?

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#10 May 02 2004 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Why here of course. DUH!
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#11 May 02 2004 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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I'd like to point out Gerardo was also left off the list.
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#12 May 02 2004 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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Why here of course. DUH!


Thanks, but I found him. Here he is.

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will it ever stop, yo, i dont know
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Thanks, but I found him. Here he is.


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#15 May 04 2004 at 1:05 AM Rating: Good
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Ok, where are the true rap aficianados?

Hmm....East Coast v.s West Coast. I haven't bought a West Coast rapper's album in like........EVER! I'd rather listen to that *** *** down south **** than Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, Mac 10, Snoop Dogg, or DJ Quik who have all gone stale!

East Coast rap is much much better. Rocafella Records is taking over the industry! Juelz Santana, Young Gunz, Kanye West, and Jay-Z all on the same label and they all are the shiznit. I can't wait for Camron's album! ><

Why isn't Nas, Lost Boyz, and Onyx not up there. There are much better rappers that could be taking space on that East Coast list.

It's a shame that both Jay-Z and DMX are both retiring. :(

And please get Lil Kim and P.Diddy off that list of East Coast rappers. They both really really suck!


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The last thing I'm gonna say about this *** crap is that the guy who decided to put ***-Z's Black Album lyrics over The Beatle's White Album music needs to skinned alive, rolled in salt, bathed in vinegar, then thrown into a fire ant colony. Maybe then he'll think twice before defiling such great masterpieces as The Beatles.
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#17 May 04 2004 at 3:06 AM Rating: Good
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#1. I made this mostly as a joke, notice the points to discuss include "hand gun accuracy" and "pimptasticness"

#2. I didn't the list (god knows I don't know that much about rap), just grabbed it off some website.

#3. The guy that mixed Jay-Z with The Beatles (DJ Danger Mouse) didn't defile ****, it was an experimental record that actually turned out pretty cool (and yes I'm a Beatles fan). If you don't like it, don't listen to it. He didn't ruin all copies of Beatles records, yours are still intact to listen to as you choose.





Edited, Tue May 4 04:07:44 2004 by trickybeck
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#18 May 04 2004 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent

I dont think anyone here knows enough about rap stars to type anything.
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#19 May 04 2004 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I could have swore Cypress Hill was East Coast.

And theres like 5 solo members of the Wu-Tang Clan listed under the East Coast, its kinda unfair to the West Coast, there no listing of the seperate member of Pharcyde.

Digital Underground, Tone Loc, MC Hammer, and The SUgar Hill Gang should be taken off the list because they are not, per say, Rap artists.

Anyways, what I know about Rap, I learned from MTV.

BTW: "The Grey Album" by DJ Danger Mouse is freeking awesome.. don't know it until you give it a listen to. I have it on mp3..
#20 May 04 2004 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont think anyone here knows enough about rap stars to type anything.


I kinda disagree...

Anyhow, I mostly listen to East Coast rappers, with a few exceptions (Dr. Dre, Tupac). Anyhow, here's my "list".

Freestyle Skillz: From the above list, hands down, DMX. His freestyles pre = '98 before he blew up were some of the best. Off the list and record, Canibus is the best of all time in my opinion. He had more of an intellectual side to his raps (most do not know he was goign to school for a degree in Computer Science).

Longevity:
Since DMX and Jay-Z are retiring, I honestly do not believe and of those above rappers will last too long with the exception of Dr. Dre and (in spirit) Biggie and Tupac.
Off the list, I believe that newcomer Kanye West is destined to be a great artist. Also, Nas will always be around I think (if he wants to be...).

Street Cred:
Every last one of them. For something crazy reason, people think just because you become rich and want a better life than staying in the hood all the time, you have sold out, which is just ridiculous and I won't speak about it again...

Album Sales:
Tupac (Best Selling Rapper of all time; yes, more than Eminem and Vanilla Ice)
Biggie
Dr. Dre
Jay-Z
DMX

Influence:
Without a doubt, Biggie, Tupac, Run-DMC, and Dr. Dre. To a sort of lesser degree, Jay-Z and Nas.

Best Martyr:
Tupac...

Hand Gun Accuracy:
Will not even stoop to this level.

Pimptasticness:
Same as above.
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#21 May 04 2004 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Haggan, Mountain Dew God wrote:


BTW: "The Grey Album" by DJ Danger Mouse is freeking awesome.. don't know it until you give it a listen to. I have it on mp3..


Where can I get a copy of this? I have been hearing so much about it and want to listen to it badly...Can you still dowwload it, or was the person that created told he could not distribute it anymore?
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#22 May 04 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Where can I get a copy of this? I have been hearing so much about it and want to listen to it badly...Can you still dowwload it, or was the person that created told he could not distribute it anymore?


You might be able to find a copy on ebay.. but i got mine through other means. He was told not to distribute it anymore, mainly because Paul McCartney or someone like that was suing him over using the unlicensed Beatles samples.

Jay-Z gave him a job though.
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You clearly left off the most important rappers, New England "rappahs" Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch! House of Pain! (They might not be from Ne England but close enough"

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Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch are the shiznit.

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Both coasts suck. Try the midwest.
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Both coasts suck. Try the midwest.



Ya...gotta love Murphy Lee and Bone Thugs and Harmony :/.

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Both coasts suck. Try the midwest.


**** YA!!!

Can't get enough of that Wisconsin crew and thier "**** the milk man" single!Smiley: wink2
#29 May 04 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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All the rap music made in like 3 years has ripped off Mystikal.

Period.

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Mystikal is the Rick james of Rap

Edited, Tue May 4 17:47:09 2004 by pickleprince
#30 May 04 2004 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
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ummm... i hate rap, and by teh looks of it, the west wins... only because of MC hammer... that boy can DANCE!!









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OK when it comes to East Vs. West, hands down east coast, not only by good music and creativty, but also by numbers of great groups. East coast has so much more to offer than west. west is mostly old school which isnt bad, but i am more of a new school kinda guy, the east coast has D-12, G-unit, DTP, def jam, rockafella, RR(ruff ryders), and many more great record labels that easily blo the west coast's rappers away. I also love mid-west rap, Nelly and the ST. lunatics are awsome as well as chingy and lil flip(not sure if he is mid or dirty souf) well thats my opinion, hope u guys realize that it is the right one lol
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#32 May 05 2004 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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West

hiero
CVE
anyone affiliated with project blowed
living legends

east

Company flow
juggaknots
cannibal ox
kool keith


best freeestyler
casual


if you do not know these names and claim to listen to hip-hop/rap

you are a fool - you listen to pop music that pretends to be rap

mtv mainstream does not count as hiphop - sorry but its the truth
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i think that the east coast has more of the better lyricists hands down. sure you can name the more mainstream rappers... jay-z, nas, biggie. (yes biggie can flo better the 2-pac, but as far as substance pac blows him away.)

but what about talib kweli, mos def, and krs-one. just cause you aint on mtv all the time, doesnt mean you arent one of the best.

as far as west coast rap is concerned. that **** has melody. yeah you can name all the gangster rappers that came out in the 80's: dre, snoop, easy-e. all great. what about the newer groups like: jurassic 5, black eyed peas, dilated peoples.

up and coming rapper, that is going to be around for a long time: kanye west.

pimptasticness: gotta be ice-t!!! yes ice-t... because he is the only rapper that was an actual pimp before rapping.

EDIT: to raise... kool keith is the ****!!

Edited, Wed May 5 04:35:33 2004 by gldenboy
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**** yeah gldnboy, good points. Kool Keith is mad. Dialated is great. Saw KRS ONE in Lawrence KA last fall, it was a decent show. Wu Tang is prob my fav. Don't forget Company Flow, Q-Tip, Black Star (Mos & Talieb), Dead Prez, Deltron 3030, Big L, and, of course, the B-Boys. Just for the record, I think OutKast is making decent music. If anyone is interested try any of the Lyricist Lounge CDs and DJ Shadow-Diminishing Returns. Diminishing was aired on the BBC as an uncut 2 hour mix. Its pretty good. Old School Hip Hop and 60s Psychodelic Rock.
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what about the newer groups like: jurassic 5, black eyed peas, dilated peoples.


Don't forget about The Grouch, along with the Living Legends, and Blackalicious! (I think thats spelt right). Thats west coast Hip Hop. Yea, hip hop :p Haven't called it rap since Dr.Dre's first Cronic album, rap is so 1990's.

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**** forgot about blackalicious!!
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in my personal opinion, you can't spell CRAP without RAP. However, being that I'm from the Detroit area, you're issued a rap album at birth, so I would have to say... what ever has a discernable beat to it?
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#38 May 06 2004 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
LMAO. I think I found a new best friend. Smiley: laughSmiley: flowers
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