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#1 Feb 21 2012 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't touched my BRD (except to level it) since 75 cap. It used to be my main job in the ToAU days (like everyone who had BRD back then lol) and I absolutely loved pulling in the old colibri camps or running constant party rotations in Einhejar (sp?..).

Does anything like that exist for BRD anymore? Something busy and fast-paced. The exp parties I've had since then never needed a puller and I was stuck just rotating songs for eternity, {Yawn}. I was thinking about putting together a DD set just to break the monotony but haven't gotten around to it, but that's just not the same. I plan on bringing one the next time I flag up on BRD anyways.

I guess my main question is what you guys actually use your BRDs for nowadays. I'm always stuck on THF, BLM, BLU, or WHM for Abyssea content. Most old content is too easy and low-mannable to need a BRD and the few VW I've done have always been on BLU. I really miss my BRD days. I was looking at all the gear I spent so long perfecting for fast, accurate, potent songs in a ToAU setting (which even includes a lot of gear SE has added since the cap raise when I stopped playing BRD) and it seems like such a shame to never use it to its full potential again. I loved the fast-paced setting for BRD in ToAU at 75 cap, but can't seem to find it again. I don't do a lot of endgame anymore outside of Emp-building, Dyna and the occasional VW (which I don't even have a lot of experience with yet), so maybe that's my problem.

TLDR: Feeling nostalgic for the ToAU days, can't find a use for BRD, and bored to pieces with it while I'm on it; disappointed because I used to love the job. What am I doing wrong?
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#2 Feb 21 2012 at 11:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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I use BRD in my Abyssea shell when I'm not on BLM. It is a lot less hectic than the good ol' ToAU days, but it's also good for claiming NMs (snagged an Ankerash from amidst the tigers just last night) in areas where there are Balfayrs, and still very good for providing strategic buffs and debuffs. (Elegy + Iron Giant = You might actually proc something.)

Have you ever asked about going BRD to voidwatch instead of BLU?
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#3 Feb 21 2012 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think you're doing anything wrong. First of all, there isn't much in the way of endgame these days, period. Second of all, brd in abyssea is sort of a snoozefest - which leaves only voidwatch or older events or maybe neo-nyzul if you want to try that (though blu would prolly be better there)

I use brd for voidwatch and for dynamis runs with my friends - though brd is only efficient in larger groups in non-COP areas. I find trying to magic proc to be pretty hectic - it might be the kind of experience you are looking for - though really it is just spamming threnodies as fast as you can and getting annoyed at how stupid magic proccing is.

My advice would be to work on that melee set and then try to do some neat things with brd that otherwise you wouldn't be able to achieve. Otherwise, you may not find many opportunities to use brd.

In a way I am happy I never fell in love with brd till after ToAU parties and oldschool dynamis so I don't have the same longing for the old days that others may experience. Good luck
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#4 Feb 21 2012 at 5:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you Cat and Olorinus for the quick replies.

I haven't tried BRD in VW yet, but I will definitely ask to go as that from now on. Staggering with BLU is really annoying anyways. I'll look into a DD set, later when my exploding inventory can handle it :3
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#5 Feb 23 2012 at 3:07 AM Rating: Excellent
I can't put my finger on why, but BRD has been pretty meh since Abyssea came out. I loved it in ToAU days, and I still keep it spiffy (added a Jellyhorn and 55/75 horns for Daurdabla 90, wich I will 99 if it kills me), but it just doesn't feel the same. I can't even get DDs to cooperate and align any more, they just expect songs to find them.

Maybe it's that nobody is /NIN, riding utsu timers, thanking god that Ni is back up. Maybe it's that the chain no longer hinges on Marches on your DDs and Elegies on the mob that's standing by. Maybe it's just us, the poor souls left after two rounds of server consolidation because the grateful people we loved to buff have gone away.

I need a kitten, stat.
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#6 Feb 23 2012 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe it's that the chain no longer hinges on Marches on your DDs and Elegies on the mob that's standing by.
I think this is kind of hitting on the issue. The simple fact is that we were absolutely necessary back in ToAU days. Not just important or wanted, but NECESSARY. And this just isn't the case anymore. While we are still nice to have and/or useful, we aren't quite as important as we used to be for maximum damage. It's not that bards suck now, it's just that if they have a choice between a bard and another DD (usually the same person on a different job), they're more likely to take the DD in many situations (not all, but many). I for one am always asked to bring other jobs to things just because we are lacking in certain areas. I guess that's the curse of being versatile. I usually get to come bard to dynamis or other old content when I ask to do so.

I can't say if we'll ever have our time in the spotlight again, but I think that we can continue to find uses for our bards. You just have to put forth a little effort to find those uses sometimes.
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#7 Feb 23 2012 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, there's no content that you can really fail at, or if there is, it won't be because you're missing the BRD. I demand events that require rotating Jellyhorn/Daurdablabla BRDs to stand a chance of succeeding!
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#9 Feb 24 2012 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
I hate it when my crown gets dethroned.
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#10 Feb 24 2012 at 5:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well I just tried VW as a BRD, it wasn't half bad. I think I'll make it my go-to VW job. Back-up healing a VW PuG where half of the real mages were mules being dual-boxed was hectic enough to keep me from being bored, lol. Seeing what they did to the relic +2 body makes me more excited to make a DD set, also, but I haven't dabbled in that yet.

It may not be as fun for me as ToAU merit parties, but I've found something that BRD is useful for, that is also not mind-numbingly boring, so I'm happy. Hope it lasts!

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#11 Feb 24 2012 at 5:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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BRD's crown has been dethroned as they are not longer considered royalty/princesses but I believe it's for the best, as they are still useful without being as retardedly demanded/privileged as they once were.


I don't mind not being the job that gets invites after 2 seconds of flagging up anymore (mostly 'cause exp is so easy to get now but still =P), and I certainly don't mind not being demanded for everything. I hated being stuck on BRD 100% of the time. My only problem was I was just so damn bored.

I do feel sorry for people who take BRD as their first/only job, as it's really not wanted for most things anymore, but I guess this day in age most people have multiple jobs, or at least could flesh an alt job out over a weekend anyways.
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#12 Feb 24 2012 at 8:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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As I said in the "where you stand in FFXI society" thread, BRD these days is the job I go to when someone is being a "relic/empyrean onry" epeen dick about an event. I can always change to a non-Empyrean'd, more useful job if needed after I'm in the alliance. But for a few minutes I get to glimmer as one of the handful of fully pimped bards on our server.
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#13 Feb 25 2012 at 2:22 AM Rating: Good
Is that a Marie Curie avatar?

If so, why did they give her a belly, that's not nice! Or consistent with the physiology of someone with her level of radiation exposure!

Edited, Feb 25th 2012 12:27am by tertoonetwothreefour
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tertoonetwothreefour wrote:
Is that a Marie Curie avatar?

If so, why did they give her a belly, that's not nice! Or consistent with the physiology of someone with her level of radiation exposure!


It is indeed Marie Curie, and they gave her a belly because she had a couple of kids before dying of radiation induced aplasiastic anemia... I think it's cute nonetheless. Smiley: smile
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#15 Feb 26 2012 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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I do feel sorry for people who take BRD as their first/only job, as it's really not wanted for most things anymore, but I guess this day in age most people have multiple jobs, or at least could flesh an alt job out over a weekend anyways.


I took brd up as my third job, but it really isn't so bad for brd. It isn't wanted for most low-man stuff, sure - but I think I have an easier time getting in to voidwatch than I would otherwise (since everyone and their dog has whm leveled, and bst is useless in the event)

There are some benefits to being a less popular job, even if it is only that brd is often one of the harder spots to fill in an alliance so people are a little less harsh about requirements (I have decent gear but no relic/empy instruments etc)
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#16 Feb 28 2012 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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Well I just tried VW as a BRD, it wasn't half bad. I think I'll make it my go-to VW job. Back-up healing a VW PuG where half of the real mages were mules being dual-boxed was hectic enough to keep me from being bored, lol. Seeing what they did to the relic +2 body makes me more excited to make a DD set, also, but I haven't dabbled in that yet.

It may not be as fun for me as ToAU merit parties, but I've found something that BRD is useful for, that is also not mind-numbingly boring, so I'm happy. Hope it lasts!



Don't forget that with the proper use of temps, brd can help with dagger and staff ws staggers. Not much, but it does help break up the monotony of sing songs, help cure, sing songs, help cure.
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