Why is no one talking about the new instruments or how to obtain them?
I keep looking in the "Bard Gets an Update" thread but haven't heard anything about new instruments.
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I'll post them here if you'd like.
Wind Instruments
Syrinx (RA)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Elegy" +3
"Minne" +3
Lv. 83 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Seps in Abyssea - Vunkerl. Spawned by trading an Opaque Wing to a ???.
Ney (RA)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
Resist Vs. Light +5 "Finale" +2
Lv. 82 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Drekavac in Abyssea - Attohwa. Spawned by trading a Wailing Rags to a ???.
Stringed Instruments
Vihuela (RA)
(String Instr.) All Races
"Mambo" +3 "Mazurka" +3
Lv. 81 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Blazing Eruca in Abyssea - Attohwa. Spawned by trading an Eruca Egg to a ???
Crooner's Cithara (RA) (EX)
(String Instr.) All Races
"Ballad" +1
Lv. 85 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Hm'Zdei, a Tier II Abyssean VNM (resting at a random spot w/ Colorful demilune abyssite Key Item in possession) Abyssea - Vunkerl.
About time we got a Ballad Instrument.. and I'm REALLY loving that theyre putting multiple song enhancements on one instrument, uncramps the inventory a little more. Better Elegy instrument mmm mmm, and a Finale instrument that isn't Stringed is also nice ^-^. Also a big fan of the Mambo and Mazurka instrument. IMO they're pretty good overall. Hope I helped^^
Wind Instruments
Syrinx (RA)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Elegy" +3
"Minne" +3
Lv. 83 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Seps in Abyssea - Vunkerl. Spawned by trading an Opaque Wing to a ???.
Ney (RA)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
Resist Vs. Light +5 "Finale" +2
Lv. 82 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Drekavac in Abyssea - Attohwa. Spawned by trading a Wailing Rags to a ???.
Stringed Instruments
Vihuela (RA)
(String Instr.) All Races
"Mambo" +3 "Mazurka" +3
Lv. 81 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Blazing Eruca in Abyssea - Attohwa. Spawned by trading an Eruca Egg to a ???
Crooner's Cithara (RA) (EX)
(String Instr.) All Races
"Ballad" +1
Lv. 85 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Hm'Zdei, a Tier II Abyssean VNM (resting at a random spot w/ Colorful demilune abyssite Key Item in possession) Abyssea - Vunkerl.
About time we got a Ballad Instrument.. and I'm REALLY loving that theyre putting multiple song enhancements on one instrument, uncramps the inventory a little more. Better Elegy instrument mmm mmm, and a Finale instrument that isn't Stringed is also nice ^-^. Also a big fan of the Mambo and Mazurka instrument. IMO they're pretty good overall. Hope I helped^^
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Sorry for the double post but more were just found,
Both are wind instruments
Apollo's Flute (RA) (EX)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Minuet" +3
Lv.83 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Mx'grah, a Tier II Abyssean VNM (resting at a random spot w/ Colorful demilune abyssite Key Item in possession) in Abyssea - Misareaux.
Cantabank's Horn (RA) (EX)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Madrigal" +3 "Prelude" +3
Lv.82 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Amun, spawn condition seems to be currently unknown. I'll edit this later if I find it.
Both are also very nice^^
Both are wind instruments
Apollo's Flute (RA) (EX)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Minuet" +3
Lv.83 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Mx'grah, a Tier II Abyssean VNM (resting at a random spot w/ Colorful demilune abyssite Key Item in possession) in Abyssea - Misareaux.
Cantabank's Horn (RA) (EX)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Madrigal" +3 "Prelude" +3
Lv.82 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Amun, spawn condition seems to be currently unknown. I'll edit this later if I find it.
Both are also very nice^^
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from wiki:
If it's like the rest, it'll be up frequently.
Quote:
Timed Spawn near Myriadeyes south of Veridical Conflux #8. Unknown spawn time.
If it's like the rest, it'll be up frequently.
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Cairstiona the Furtive wrote:
from wiki:
If it's like the rest, it'll be up frequently.
Quote:
Timed Spawn near Myriadeyes south of Veridical Conflux #8. Unknown spawn time.
If it's like the rest, it'll be up frequently.
What is "it"?
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Well if you had read the post just above mine you would have seen:
Quote:
Cantabank's Horn (RA) (EX)
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Madrigal" +3 "Prelude" +3
Lv.82 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Amun, spawn condition seems to be currently unknown. I'll edit this later if I find it.
(Wind Instr.) All Races
"Madrigal" +3 "Prelude" +3
Lv.82 BRD
How to obtain: Dropped from Amun, spawn condition seems to be currently unknown. I'll edit this later if I find it.
Cairstiona, Accidental RDM
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Alchemy 96.4 +3
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Oh I see.
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Dumb question perhaps, but what is the benefit of +2 on finale since it doesn't have a duration? Accuracy?
gaira wrote:
Dumb question perhaps, but what is the benefit of +2 on finale since it doesn't have a duration? Accuracy?
Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:53pm by ThePsychoticOne
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Seems unlikely there is no bonus whatsoever, just difficult to discern perhaps.
I know there are plenty of "pointless" items in the game, and this could fall into that category, but I imagine there's something there.
I know there are plenty of "pointless" items in the game, and this could fall into that category, but I imagine there's something there.
Its just SE being SE and the player base being the player base (or rather: it is what it is).
SE wanted/wants BRD to use multiple instruments.
The general player base doesn't really care for stringed instruments, so they don't use them.
Rumor goes around that stringed instruments suck compared to wind instruments on equal skill levels, despite no strong supporting evidence (other than cases where you don't want such a huge AOE buff).
Since some of the better items in the game are wind instrument based and most of the best gear sports wind instrument based stats, more people have a preference for wind.
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Why add a Finale+2 wind instrument? Guess is good as mine, probably because no one was using the Harp (or the fact that unless you had a good string build it was better to just sing with winded). Or maybe it's just because SE doesn't know their own game.
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I did speculate in the past on what would happen if SE added something like a Ballad+1/2 Stringed instrument. At the time I was wondering if people would start making string builds to increase it's range in mage parties. I don't really see it now, but I think that is more due to how easy it is to generate MP and the difficulty in obtaining the harp. Who knows tho, it could still happen if SE adds more stringed gear in the future (tho why add the new finale instrument?). I still think it would be interesting to see different variety amongst bards making better use the 'less desired' half of our job.
SE wanted/wants BRD to use multiple instruments.
The general player base doesn't really care for stringed instruments, so they don't use them.
Rumor goes around that stringed instruments suck compared to wind instruments on equal skill levels, despite no strong supporting evidence (other than cases where you don't want such a huge AOE buff).
Since some of the better items in the game are wind instrument based and most of the best gear sports wind instrument based stats, more people have a preference for wind.
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Why add a Finale+2 wind instrument? Guess is good as mine, probably because no one was using the Harp (or the fact that unless you had a good string build it was better to just sing with winded). Or maybe it's just because SE doesn't know their own game.
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I did speculate in the past on what would happen if SE added something like a Ballad+1/2 Stringed instrument. At the time I was wondering if people would start making string builds to increase it's range in mage parties. I don't really see it now, but I think that is more due to how easy it is to generate MP and the difficulty in obtaining the harp. Who knows tho, it could still happen if SE adds more stringed gear in the future (tho why add the new finale instrument?). I still think it would be interesting to see different variety amongst bards making better use the 'less desired' half of our job.
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Maybe SE janked with it and decreased the casting/recast time (maybe?) just a guess. I'm most likely wrong lol
Edited, Oct 7th 2010 2:03pm by TroubaGale
Edited, Oct 7th 2010 2:03pm by TroubaGale
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TroubaGale wrote:
Maybe SE janked with it and decreased the casting time (maybe?) just a guess. I'm most likely wrong lol
G.horn only offers increased MACC. No other instrument uses 'song'+1/2/3 in a non-standard way. I would doubt that this one does anything different either.
Zeludh wrote:
Well, finale *can* be resisted, so it just adds some placebo accuracy for those rare occasions.
I don't understand if your replying to the above or what. You just said the same thing that's been said before, but in a very cryptic "I'm going to trap you with my witty response" way. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
...lol
On a serious note, to clarify what was meant: The Finale+2 bonus on String and Wind should be the same. You'll see no measurable difference when they are cast naked/equal gear. Any differences can be attributed to merits or better gear, not instrument.
In regards to the new instruments, I almost feel like crying for the relic horns out there. Comparable performance can be achieved by having the AF3 and the Cythara (not that MP regen while inside abyssea matters a damn anymore). Problem with that harp is that if you've kept your stringed up to date, the range on Ballad2 is a pain in the ass if you're in a mixed party, but a godsend if you're in the manaburn party. Also helps with Ballad3's pathetic range.
In regards to the finale instrument, I'll just say it's a placebo effect, but it is also much more useful than string. I used to own a Military Harp, since I got Finale, and it was useless, got resisted way too aften (I kept both skills capped with besieged), much, much more than wind instrument, so I promptly sold it (also, lol ridiculous price tag on it) and have casted Finale with I.R. Horn with little to no resists whatsoever since.
Now, stringed Mazurka is good for both the +3 on duration and AoE range, since more often than not people lose the move+ because they stray too far and take long to stap back for the cast, and we all know how they beg to run faster.
Haven't used prelude in forever though (maybe could be useful with an inverse JA to Pianissimo in a ranger party), Minne+3 is useless, Elegy +3 is worthless as well, it will cap on enemies at 50% regardless and if you can't land it within 2 or 3 casts, means youredoinitwrong or the mob is very resistant. Madrigal and acc in general is lolstatus atm with the lack of 85+ content requiring it, but that Minuet+3 however, might be helpful coupled with Minuet merits, although it won't make-or-break you if you don't have.
In regards to the finale instrument, I'll just say it's a placebo effect, but it is also much more useful than string. I used to own a Military Harp, since I got Finale, and it was useless, got resisted way too aften (I kept both skills capped with besieged), much, much more than wind instrument, so I promptly sold it (also, lol ridiculous price tag on it) and have casted Finale with I.R. Horn with little to no resists whatsoever since.
Now, stringed Mazurka is good for both the +3 on duration and AoE range, since more often than not people lose the move+ because they stray too far and take long to stap back for the cast, and we all know how they beg to run faster.
Haven't used prelude in forever though (maybe could be useful with an inverse JA to Pianissimo in a ranger party), Minne+3 is useless, Elegy +3 is worthless as well, it will cap on enemies at 50% regardless and if you can't land it within 2 or 3 casts, means youredoinitwrong or the mob is very resistant. Madrigal and acc in general is lolstatus atm with the lack of 85+ content requiring it, but that Minuet+3 however, might be helpful coupled with Minuet merits, although it won't make-or-break you if you don't have.
Cigarman wrote:
(maybe could be useful with an inverse JA to Pianissimo in a ranger party)
... you mean Tenuto?
Edit: Gah, didn't realize how old this thread is. Moving along ... >.>
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 3:31pm by Calessa
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Calessa wrote:
Cigarman wrote:
(maybe could be useful with an inverse JA to Pianissimo in a ranger party)
... you mean Tenuto?
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