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#1 May 13 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry if this question has been asked or answered, but I was planning on levelig brd and my whm is 26, and I really really hate leveling whm. Is it at any extreme importance that you will need /whm as brd? If their is, when? I do have nin at 37 and willing to pull.

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#3 May 13 2010 at 8:30 PM Rating: Good
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kind of. in parties with tanks, i always preferred dia pulling to song pulling. makes the mobs die more quickly. also, you can always sleep adds/multiple mobs you pull on purpose. wake them up with dia, all good. obviously, mages could be casting dia, but it's nice to have it up for the entire fight. (shrug) also, being able to throw a backup cure never hurt anyone.

you could get away with /NIN full-time, but it would usually be overkill on the damage mitigation.
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#4 May 16 2010 at 7:06 PM Rating: Good
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If you have no plans for endgame, it's not needed. In parties, /nin is currently the only useful sub .
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SilentAmbush wrote:
Sorry if this question has been asked or answered, but I was planning on levelig brd and my whm is 26, and I really really hate leveling whm. Is it at any extreme importance that you will need /whm as brd? If their is, when? I do have nin at 37 and willing to pull.

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Depending on what happens in the next few updates, RDM will probably usurp WHM as the best mage sub.
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I bet I've cast erase/paralyna more than Cure in 6 years of barding. Those spells will always be useful in events.
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I bet I've cast erase/paralyna more than Cure in 6 years of barding. Those spells will always be useful in events.
This is what i like to call a ************ brd".
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#8 May 17 2010 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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I may not have done 6 years of BRDing, but yeah, I use /WHM for status heals way more than Cures. I don't see what's so ****** about that.
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I may not have done 6 years of BRDing, but yeah, I use /WHM for status heals way more than Cures. I don't see what's so sh*tty about that.



You can easily get, and maintain, the MP to nearly main heal a party with a little effort. Especially in most endgame where your only role is to put spells on melees or mages then elegy/sleep stuff, Cureing a DD party should be do-able by a good BRD.
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i never healed party members on BRD b/c the spell lock would lower my dagger DoT.
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i never healed party members on BRD b/c the spell lock would lower my dagger DoT.



Just .dat swap it out, it's not like you'll ever get banned for it.
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milich wrote:
i never healed party members on BRD b/c the spell lock would lower my dagger DoT.
Just .dat swap it out, it's not like you'll ever get banned for it.
ja0wait is kind of awesome too.
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#14 May 17 2010 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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You can easily get, and maintain, the MP to nearly main heal a party with a little effort.


Yeah, I think not, considering how in most of the kinds of parties I seem I get, I struggle to heal for even on RDM or WHM because the frontline absolutely sucks at mitigating their own damage.


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Just .dat swap it out, it's not like you'll ever get banned for it.


I'm pretty sure even if you do this (which is quite obviously cheating), you still get the attack delay added on.

If not, then it's even more of a cheat than I've realized.
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You can easily get, and maintain, the MP to nearly main heal a party with a little effort.


Yeah, I think not, considering how in most of the kinds of parties I seem I get, I struggle to heal for even on RDM or WHM because the frontline absolutely sucks at mitigating their own damage.
I've solo healed dozens of merit pts on brd. It's really not that hard, as long as you got a cor for evoker's. With 2-3/tic evoker's, 3/tic ballad, vermy, and sanction, for 7-8/tic refresh it's really not too hard to keep mp up. And of course brd uses less mp than rdm/whm, since they don't have to haste. And that's without /sch's -10% mp cost, sublimation, and aspir. If you can't keep mp up with all that, then either your dds suck too much to be worth partying with, or urdoinitrong.

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Just .dat swap it out, it's not like you'll ever get banned for it.
I'm pretty sure even if you do this (which is quite obviously cheating), you still get the attack delay added on.

If not, then it's even more of a cheat than I've realized.
It does nothing more than blinking the cast would do. The only advantage would be that other people can't spell lock you when (dis)engaging, or standing up, which you otherwise have no control over.

Edited, May 17th 2010 8:46pm by ThePsychoticOne
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Fynlar wrote:
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You can easily get, and maintain, the MP to nearly main heal a party with a little effort.


Yeah, I think not, considering how in most of the kinds of parties I seem I get, I struggle to heal for even on RDM or WHM because the frontline absolutely sucks at mitigating their own damage.


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Just .dat swap it out, it's not like you'll ever get banned for it.


I'm pretty sure even if you do this (which is quite obviously cheating), you still get the attack delay added on.

If not, then it's even more of a cheat than I've realized.


he's referencing an argument we are/were having on =10. in other news, i never actually melee'd on BRD except solo.
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#18 May 17 2010 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I've solo healed dozens of merit pts on brd. It's really not that hard, as long as you got a cor for evoker's.


You don't know the kind of melees I usually get in my parties. >_>

Plus, I don't even remember the last time I had any party with both BRD and COR in it, even when I was the BRD.

Yeah, sux, but putting up with this is still better EXP for me overall than sitting my *** around waiting for That Perfect Party to allow me to grace it with my presence.
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I've solo healed dozens of merit pts on brd. It's really not that hard, as long as you got a cor for evoker's.


You don't know the kind of melees I usually get in my parties. >_>

Plus, I don't even remember the last time I had any party with both BRD and COR in it, even when I was the BRD.

Yeah, sux, but putting up with this is still better EXP for me overall than sitting my *** around waiting for That Perfect Party to allow me to grace it with my presence.
I probably should have deleted that part about needing a cor when i edited that post. I hadn't even thought of using brd/sch, since i never had /sch before, and now that i do, i don't have brd. Not only do you get the extra refresh, and -mp cost, you get pretty much infinite mp from aspir (run out of range after casting ofc). It's not nearly as hard as you think.

And i think i know what ****** melees are like >.>
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#20 May 17 2010 at 9:32 PM Rating: Good
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if you get bad melees in parties, remember good melees and make your own parties. it's bad enough that people can't be bothered to remember and avoid gimps (but they can manage to complain about them and use them as excuses for their own bad/weird choices in-game); unacceptable when it's a BRD doing it.

(why?

<BRD that doesn't have awful reputation already> {party}{do you need it?}
<any player at all> {yes, please.})

edit: this goes double for linkshells!!!

Edited, May 17th 2010 11:32pm by milich
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#21 May 18 2010 at 2:00 AM Rating: Decent
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if you get bad melees in parties, remember good melees and make your own parties.


Oh, if those people were only at my beck and call all of the time and never had RL or events to attend to.
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