Marduk's JubbahFollow

Obviously asking this question on the BRD forums is going to make your responses somewhat biased toward Marduk; I'd also recommend asking the reverse question ("Should I get morrigan's over marduk?") on the BLM forum.

Listing your BLM gear here would also help, as it would give a broader idea as to the benefits of your case in choosing one or the other. Also you never indicated how much of Morrigan or Marduk you have (just the body? or the set?).

I can't really speak to SMN and WHM. I can cover some brief parts for those jobs, but most of what I can recommend come from a BRD's perspective.

MND +12 - WHM will generally benefit the most from this stat when using MND based enfeebles for magic accuracy. WHM, SMN and BRD will benefit from higher Stoneskin values.

CHR +12 - BRD will generally benefit the most from this stat when using offensive songs. WHM and SMN may not receive any benefits.

HP/MP - WHM, SMN, and BRD will usually not concern themselves with the actual stat, but instead focus on ways to generate it faster (refresh, HMP, etc). No real wow factor here and other pieces of gear would be better. On the advanced side of things, BRD would benefit from the HP portion marginally when working toward a minstrel ring latent build.

Refresh - WHM has alternative body pieces that would be better/cheeper. SMN has alternative body pieces that do almost the same thing, but are a little easier to obtain. BRD would benefit the most from this.

Fast Cast (body) - WHM and SMN would benefit from this piece during initial casting of spells and is comparable to other types of gear. The other types of gear in this case is debatable, as it might be difficult to obtain for some and might also be a difficult decision (because you pass up other gear) for others. BRD wouldn't see much benefit over alternative pieces of gear (yigit body), however this only applies to songs and not all spells.

Fast Cast (Set) - WHM, SMN and BRD would see a large improvement on all spells that could not be accomplished by other pieces of gear. BRD may still benefit from Minstrel's Ring + HP build instead.

As you have already suspected, Marduk Jubbah is likely to be a marginal upgrade for you. But since I do not know what your BLM build looks like, nor do I know how often you play WHM, SMN or BRD (or the playstyle of each), it is still difficult to recommend whether to obtain it or not.

Edited, Apr 10th 2010 3:22pm by Asmoranomar

The mp on dalm is pretty huge really, especially for brd, since almost all their mp comes from gear.

My bad, I have a minstrel's coat/chanter's staff. Oracle's pigaches are the bane of my life. I have good luck in Salvage and Dynamis but appalling luck in ZNMs but they are being worked on. Marching belt is actually possible as we're working on VNMs regularly at the moment. Thanks for the head's up about the Echo Cape. I should probably go back and get the astute done but I hadn't seen the Echo cape, so thanks for that.

I've upgraded Marduk legs/feet already (have a string set inc errato's cape where needed)and have the full set of body pieces. I only have the 15s for the hands and tiara and until the 35s drop we won't bother aiming for the 25s.

Thanks for all the advice, it was useful. I think I may sell the osode, pick up a manteel etc and focus more on BLM. If I come into some gil or the price comes down I'll probably work on the marduk body once I have the tiara.

Edited, Apr 9th 2010 8:51am by eldelphia

AF+1 legs for buffs
Marduk legs for debuffs

For SS, this is a non-issue for WHM and SMN. WHM/SCH can very easily cap out SS with little extra MND gear. And WHM/non-SCH only needs ~105 total MND. Again, this is quite easy to do for WHM. SMN will more than likely be using Titan for Earthen Ward, and has much less reason to bother with White Magic Stoneskin. BRD can get more use for SS with this, but it's quite possible to reach the ~144 MND needed to cap SS without Marduk. I guess I could roll with Marduks for Enfeebs on WHM, but I'd use AF/AF+1 if I were so inclined. But to be honest, for any mob where an extreme amount of MND is required to enfeeble, I'm letting the RDM do that.

Never discount HP builds for WHM. These are useful for building a large initial Sublimation charge, or for a large Devotion.

Except for an initial boost to MP for RR or something, I whole heartedly disagree with MP from Dalmy being a big deal. Are you going to sing all songs and do everything while wearing a Dalmy? Swapping to Manteel or Yigit to get those songs up and keep moving is much more important to me. Obviously you're talking BRD/WHM, so most likely not merits. To be honest, I prefer getting out of AoE range more than I want 50 mp. Yay, I have the mp to Cure III myself, because I ate more damage.

Damn. Glad I wrote my WHM & SMN disclaimer because I completely forgot about all that.

Im my opinion, Marduk's Jubbah is good, but it does not worth the price tag for BRD. The fast cast effect is not game breaking.

For WHM, it is not that great. There are a lot of refresh gear. It cannot replace AF2 or Noble. For -enmity build, JSE wins.
For SMN, YY Robe and AF2 wins.
For max HP&MP build, go for Goliard.