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#1 Nov 30 2003 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Well I have been looking into becomeing a Bard and it looks really cool but i am still not sure. So what are the best reasons to become one and is it very hard to be come one but overall it looks really good. So I would just like to know what the big pluses are of becoming one. Thanx
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lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
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#2 Nov 30 2003 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, a lot of people believe that a Bard makes the "Ultimate Support Class" and it would seem so, especially with a White Mage subbed. The Bard is a VERY group-oriented/dependent class, in fact it's essentially impossible to solo with this class, but most sensible parties will want you with them anyway so it's not a problem. You get some very nifty songs that each last for 2 minutes and you can keep 2 songs going at once if you have an instrument equipped. Your songs also cost no MP, so a Bard really won't need downtime, particularly if a White Mage is in the group for healing. You also get songs to speed up MP/HP recovery, so downtime for the rest of the group is limited as well. As for the difficulty of the Bard's Flag Quest, I'm not sure as I've not completed it myself but if you click the link above in the Bard's description it will tell you what to do. Hope this helps. <(^.^)>
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#3 Nov 30 2003 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah a Bard sounds pretty good and i am a Reed Mage now But have been thingking about going tobecome a white mage bat am not sure about the switch but a bard does sound nice. Thanx
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Berrick
lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
Server: Pheonix

#4 Nov 30 2003 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry posted twice

Edited, Sun Nov 30 15:15:50 2003 by xPATx
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Berrick
lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
Server: Pheonix

#5 Nov 30 2003 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Dont forget to mention the threnody songs to lower a MOB's elemental resistances, this works great with BLM in the party. Bards simply rock.
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#6 Nov 30 2003 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, once you start obtaining the Threnody line Black Mages and Summoners will beg you to join them. A Bard casting Ice Threnody while a Black Mage casts Freeze and a Summoner summons Shiva would be a tremendous force. Hope this helps and, yes, Bards do rock. <(^.^)>

Edited, Sun Nov 30 20:17:21 2003 by ariushinju
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#7 Dec 01 2003 at 5:12 AM Rating: Default
If you choose to play a Bard, I garuntee you will never have trouble finding a party...ever!
#8 Dec 01 2003 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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yeah i really want to be a bard i cant wait but is being a red mage good with being a bard?
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Berrick
lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
Server: Pheonix

#9 Dec 09 2003 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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It always seems to me that a Bard ends up being the most powerful charater in the game. But only with a group. All the extra damage done because you are there is accually your damage. All the nukes from the extra mana you provide, all the extra swings that are taken from your haste is really your damage. I always play bards in games. I think its a good choice.

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#10 Dec 10 2003 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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ok well this is a very nood Question do i have to wait to be lvl 30 with a Regular class(Red mage) to be able to be a Bard i dont know hos it works i see people walking around with like lvl 8 white mage and lvl 2 bard ow do i do that plz i cant wait to be a bard.
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Berrick
lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
Server: Pheonix

#11 Dec 10 2003 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't actually gain levels in this game. You gain job levels. This means you can have say a level 40 bard, a level 30 white mage, and a level 6 warrior. The game saves the levels of every job you have. To become a bard you must do the quest. The quest must be activated by at least a level 30 job. Hope that helps
#12 Dec 10 2003 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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ok thanx man
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Berrick
lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
Server: Pheonix

#13 Dec 10 2003 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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wait but then how come i see people with out a job lvl of 30 and they are a bard? am i just no seeing all of there jobs or is there a way around waiting til lvl 30?
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Berrick
lvl 14 Rdm and lvl 11 Whm
Bard as soon as I can
Server: Pheonix

#14 Dec 10 2003 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
Berrick,

You are correct, you cannot see their other job levels cause you can have more than one job at different levels. As long as ONE of your jobs is level 30, you can do the bard quest. As for me, I never really considered being a bard, but after reading this thread I've begun to get interested.

Oh one last thing, THIS GAME IS SO AWSOME!!

Devante
Alexander
#15 Dec 11 2003 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I cannot wait to be a bard! That was the choice I've wanted every since I bought the game. Me myself, I'm going for bard/thief. Only 10 level thief now so I have a while to go. But man, I can't wait! =D
#16 Dec 11 2003 at 10:32 AM Rating: Default
If you've ever partied with a Bard then you would understand why they rock! I'm a WHM and I had my first party with a bard in Valkurm Dunes a few days ago. After we fought a couple of mobs I'm healing everyone up and the bard tells me not to worry about healing after battles because he has a HP regeneration song going. This left me free to rest my MP (he didn't have the MP regen song yet) immediately after the battle instead of having to use a bunch of it to heal everyone and then rest. Anyway, the point is, I was able to start resting my MP when the mobs were a hit or two from death. As soon as the mob was killed our puller was able to pull again right away and we made gobs of experience in a very short time. It was at then that I decided to work on becoming a bard.
#17 Dec 12 2003 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Aye thats what i love about being bard, although i have to say due to the lack of experience people have with bards being in groups i find myself explaining alot to people about how i effect a group and in what way i can help, but i think that will diminish with time and people being around them more often.

if you are bard, please don't be frustrated with inexperienced groups just explain to them. We are like white mages rare and hard to find in a group.
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#18 Dec 13 2003 at 11:31 AM Rating: Default
Just wanted to add my 2 cents on being a bard.

The reason i chose one was because I liked playing instruments :) simple reason, but once I chose bard, I found that I liked it and stuck with it.

Might be my desire to play primary support classes (rdm, whm, brd), but I've found bard pretty fun. While not singing songs, I still do engage in battle with my small dagger, and while I do very little dmg, it's fun for me to still build TP and perticipate in chains now and then :)

But that's not the point of being a bard, heh. it's the songs. Granted I'm only a lvl24 Bard, so haven't hit the higher lvl songs yet (eg Mage's Ballad - one lvl away from that), I've found that I do help the pt a lot, and I typically get re-invites from the same people many times.

As mentioned before, say after the battle your enemy has done a few area attacks - just slap on Paeon I and II, and your regening HP at about 3 HP per 2-3 secs. Time for your whm to rest, and your whole PT is regaining HP in the meantime.

In a battle at this point, the most helpful songs appear to be Valor II and Sword Madrigal (ATK+ and ACCURACY+). If your fighting a monster that you rarely miss, I throw on 2 Valors (I and II). That makes my atk somewhere from 86 to 120 or something. (I forget exactly). Now imagine that increase across all the melee characters in your group. That's a substantial boost.

Anyway, I can post more about my experiences at a later time - for now, I gotta run. Hope that helps anyone w/ their decision :)
#19 Dec 13 2003 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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i was thinking of becoming a bard but i am a monk. If i made bard my main job when i get to 30 and monk my sub i could use the monk abilities when im soloing. Would this work or would it mess up my bard abilities...i dont know how but im still kinda new.
#20 Dec 13 2003 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Your secondary job will never take away from your primary, it will only enhance it, although some subjobs compliment particular main jobs better than others, bard/monk isn't a bad combination , but if your a fan of being the damage dealer and main melee , i wouldn't recommend bard becuase bard is a Support class where as Monk is a Melee
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#21 Dec 20 2003 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
I personally love making friends... that's what MMORPGS are all about for me. I played a 50 enhance cleric in DAOC, and I plan on playing WHM then BRD here. People just love you.
#22 Dec 22 2003 at 8:09 AM Rating: Default
To answer about using RDM as a sub for BRD, I just started using this as a sub this weekend, and I am finding it to be quite useful. I only have about 10 mp less than with my WHM sub, but with Ballad (MP regen) going at all time it doesn't make a diffence really. I am able to focus on debuff songs, allowing the full WHM to heal the puller immediately if needed. Then, with MP regen still on me, I use Enthunder and jump into battle, keeping an eye open for where a Cure 2 is needed.

I don't think it is likely that a PT with a WHM will die because the Bard subbed RDM instead of WHM, nor is it likely that a BRD/WHM could ever serve as a main healer. Therefore, RDM makes a fine sub for Bard, the only thing lost is Bar-ra spells and -na spells; however, En-spells make it easier for a bard to jump into battle once all the songs have been finished :)

-Fantasia, lvl 36 BRD/RDM, Pandemonium server
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