Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
And even the pets that can get higher leveled seem to hit like a wet paper bag and need meds aplenty to hold anything of note.
Meanwhile jobs like SMN and PUP just need to get 1 item that levels their pets forever (and all of their pets not just 1 or 2) - it's broken unfortunately. The job is just falling way behind.
This is not true. SMN avatars are lvl 113 if you have the best gear available. With 5/5 Beast Affinity merits, augmented relic +2 gloves, and an appropriate axe, BST pets currently go all the way up to lvl 128 (Herald Henry). Our best pet is 15 levels higher than theirs. I don't see how we're "falling behind."
Because the avatar and the jug pet take the same damage from melee hits, and the avatar is completely immune to magical damage. Since everything in Ulbuka only uses one element, simply use the element avatar strong to it and watch as a 6000 damage move from Hurkan does 20 damage to Titan. And survivability doesn't even matter for SMN, since you can instantly, for free, resummon the pet when it dies, and it will instantly return to the fight without you even having to tell it to.
And that the 113 avatar hits for the same damage with the same attack speed and the same accuracy as a 119 jug pet, but then can drop a 7000 damage blood pact every 45 seconds. (9000+ if blood boon goes off) Meanwhile no one even uses offensive sics anymore because they do the same as a normal melee swing. Or in the case of Scissorleg, they for some reason do half what his normal attacks do.
Not to mention we only have 3 families of pet of the required 7. There are no amorph zones to use the crabs in, and there's no Yorcia delve to use Xerin in. We can use a lapinion to make Killer instinct useful in morimar, but, we're completely screwed everywhere else. SMN's effectiveness doesn't drop off by 30% by switching zones.
I play PUP as well, and even with Alternator, an automaton is far more squishy than a BST pet. A 128 Henry (who has Def Boost and Stoneskin TP moves) can really take a beating. Way more than what a SMN avatar or a PUP automaton can handle.
I play PUP as well, and you are either dishonestly comparing the soulsoother frame to the PLD crab, or you have no idea how attachments work. A Valoredge puppet with alternator cannot be killed
by anything but a Naakual/delve boss. And it'll even hold them for several minutes barring max hp down/doom moves landing on it.
The currently strongest enemies in the game, level 128ish rams in Kamhir, cannot kill him. Put on your pet damage taken-12% claws (which pup can still use because their pets are tied to a ranged weapon) your anwig salade and sheperds neck, 2 armor plates and a mana jammer 2 and your puppet takes 30% of the damage the enemy deals. Then it can parry attacks into 0 damage, counters attacks for 0 damage, shield blocks about half of attacks for half again as much damage, and can heal itself to full with cannibal blade every time it gets TP. Not to mention between flash and shield bash it shouldn't even get hit much in the first place, and the innate regen from both Auto-repair kits cancels out any damage he will take anyway. And that's not even getting onto complicated sh*t, like evasion parts, stoneskin, reducing the damage of attacks every successive time they land, or the abilities the master can use.
On the BST side of things, those rams kill my crab in 20 swings and there ain't sh*t I can do about it. I'm better off tanking them myself and just blinking the damage away, which I have no choice but to do because the pets are still hitting for 120 damage while my axes do 300+ damage, 2-8 times in the same time frame. After that I gotta spend 60k gil or 2000 plasm to even call another one, Assuming there are
any to buy and assuming I can get
any plasm to buy another one, since BST isn't allowed into delve. How is this not "falling behind?" A level 119 wyvern
is as good as our current pets. Edited, Dec 7th 2013 9:58am by louispv