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#1 Jan 29 2013 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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Hello Beastmasters. I played ffxi from 2003-2006 and recently came back a few months ago. Unfourtunetly my old character was unable to be recovered but with the new leveling system Ive had a much easier time. My old character was a 75 blackmage with experience in Dynamis and Sky, so outside of those two areas I dont know much when it comes to the new endgame. I was leveling beastmaster on the side as well but I only got it to around level 40. Anyways, just wanted to give some background info.

Ive been playing for around 2 months now and am approaching endgame, currently a level 95 beastmaster about to work on the last limit break. I have been to Abyssea only twice and I understand cruor, keys, and farming the key items to pop nms. I have three questions I'd like advice on, and maybe more if I think of them. Also take note that I have a good amount of free time right now but the future is unclear, so while I want to put alot of time and effort into Beastmaster I may have to cut back in the future, which is another reason Im unsure of what tasks to undertake.

1) I really enjoy playing Beastmaster but Ive noticed that pet food and high level jugs are becoming more and more expensive. Ive been all set for awhile now as two of my old friends hooked me up with 1.5mil and Ive spent and made some of it back throughout the leveling process, currently still at about 1mil. I do know some people who are cooks, but what Im wondering is if its worth it for someone who wants to go full time bst to level cooking? I remember people saying cooking was the cheapest craft to level, but im unsure of whether or not that is still true and if the investment will pay off. Would it be a better idea to invest in crafting (and this synergy thing im still not sure about) or would it be a better idea to attempt other things to earn gil for jugs/food? The only gil making methods I really know of would be using seals for BCNMs and (although I havent done it yet) attempting to solo Dynamis to sell the currency.

2) I have looked into some of the endgame weapons for Beastmaster and im not sure which one to go for. If someone could explain how difficult these items are to obtain and how useful they are in general than that would be very helpful. They are of course the relic, mythic and empyreal weapons known as Guttler, Aymur and Farsha. Just from looking at them, it seems to me that Guttler and Farsha are similiar in terms of damage and in that they allow you to use a special weaponskill whereas Aymur includes some special bonuses. I understand Guttler is obtained through dynamis as the Relic weapons were around when I played, though I never attempted one. I kind of understand that Arymur and Farsha involve these new trial type quests but as to the specifics I am not sure.

3) Similarly to question 2, what type of gear should I am for to be a good endcap beastmaster? I know many people who are working on the Abbysea gear and it seems pretty straight forward, get the regular item by spending certain currencies or a rare drop off of certain mobs within abyssea, and then using large amounts of cruor to upgrade them (?). This seems fairly straight forward, if I understand, it correctly and would also be a good way to hit 2 birds with 1 stone in the sense that you must farm cruor to upgrade them which also gets you limit points as well, so farming in abyssea groups would work to both get the gear and merit points at the same time. Or is the farming more specific and involves less chance for acquiring large amounts of limit points?
I have also seen something about AF2 being able to upgrade it but I am unsure if this is worth doing instead of the Abyssea armor. It would seem to me that obtaining the AF2 armor is much easier now that you can solo/duo in Dynamis, making for less competition for the drops. If someone could give more insight onto the types of good endgame gear that would be very helpful.

That is all the questions I have for now, much appreciation to any fellow beastmasters who can help answer them, thanks.
#2 Jan 29 2013 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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Hello,

In regards the empry plus1 gears it's not pay for by cruor. You have to defeat NM to get the certain seals to upgrade to the plus1 gears. The good news is beast master can solo most of it. It just takes time and Gil. In regards to making Gil there are many variety of ways in abyssea. Gold chest farming defeating certain nm for drops that spawns other nm to sell. Etc For axes if you have the time do trial of the magician pet evasion paths. It's very time consuming but 2 ax you get Plus 36 evasion on pets.

I got most of my info by looking thru the post that people wrote in thebeastmaster forum.
#3 Jan 29 2013 at 4:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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-yeah you buy the gear with cruor (except pants which you need resistance credits for and feet, which are found in gold pyxides), but they are upgraded using seals that drop from NMs, not cruor.

-I don't know what your experience will be, but I found after the initial hump, where jugs and food costs were getting hard to keep up with, it gets a lot easier to fund them just using junk drops from different events/abyssea. I think the only downside to leveling cooking would be limiting yourself from other crafts but there are some good jugs that can be made with relatively low cooking - you'll still probably want synergy though.

Like Lucky Lulush, which is one of my favourite jugs, caps at cooking 33, but NQ you only get 4 jugs per synth, whereas with synergy you get 6 jugs per synth. So you could level cooking to a level that would open up some options for jugs without necessarily blocking other crafts, since synergy doesn't count against your craft limit.

That said, if you spent the time you'd spend on leveling cooking on farming gil in other ways, you may be further ahead overall. It's hard to say. Never hurts to have some craft skills. I, personally don't enjoy crafting but if you do, go for it. If you don't it may be more sensible to just find some good money making niches.

Also, DO get your pet pdt axes (stone path magians) - they will save you a lot of money because your pets will be more sturdy. I found they made a huge difference in terms of not using as many jugs while exping/soloing etc.

-I'd say the only megaweapon really worth a lot of effort for BST is the mythic, but its also the hardest kind of weapon to get. I think there is less than 10 in existence on ALL servers. From what I read Guttler is a really good axe but the trouble is the weaponskill is weaker than the merit weaponskill. I would say the general consensus is the empy axe is not worth it at all. Overall, there are better jobs to put effort into a megaweapon than BST. Because our damage is split with our pets we get much less out of a top tier weapon than other jobs. What makes Aymur very good is it also impacts our pets.

As for gear, for sure work on your AF3. There are also some important bits of relic you will want (boots, body, gloves) and probably want to upgrade to +2/3 (uses forgotten items and ancient currency). You will probably want to aim for a full gear haste set for TP (25% haste ... well can be 26%... but that's all technical) and items which give double and triple attack if you can.

Also, as noted above, get the magian axes that reduce the amount of damage your pets take. The add-on scenarios also give augmentable armor as rewards that give us good options for stats - You'll want the 10% pet -pdt/5% pet haste head for sure.

Um, there is a lot of armor you will want, it's hard to even list where to start. But don't feel bad about wearing the perle set while you work on things.

The first abyssea armor I finished and I think it is a good one, was the AF3 pants, just cause they give a nice haste bonus, and they help keep your pet alive.



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#4 Jan 30 2013 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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Thankyou very much for your posts, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer them.
If anyone else has some advice as well please share.
One other thing I was wondering about is suggestions for which jug to use for solo dynamis farming?
#5 Jan 30 2013 at 7:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Regarding legendary weapons....

The mythic weapon, Aymur is the best, next is guttler,and farsha is hardly worth the effort.
Only 2 players have obtained Aymur. Obtaining a mythic weapon is the most time consuming series of quests in the game. Aymur has some very nice stats for pets on it and the highest base damage of any 1-handed axe. However, what makes mythics good is the level 3 aftermath to mythic weapon skills. It is a massive double and triple attack rate, which for BST also includes our pet.

Guttler is the 2nd best. You can solo farm all the ancient currency to make one in 2or 3 months. Perhaps faster, if you are good at making gil in other ways. The DPS on guttler is actually better than Aymur if the aftermath effect for aymur is not active. Guttler also has a wonderful attack+ and choke effect.

Farsha looks like it has decent stats but there are some tricks to fool you. The ,large costs for mythic and relic weapons is getting the level 75 version. After that its not so hard to upgrade them up to level 95 or 99.
However, Empyrean weapons are just a bit Tim consuming to level up to 90. You could actually acquire a level 90 weapon in as little as w week if you focused a lot of time into it. However the upgrades to level 95, then 99 cost a lot.

Farsha at level 90 is a little weaker than a level 99 fire path astolfo. The weaponskill Cloud splitter looks really cool but it is rather underwhelming. The element is different, but the power and utility is almost identical to primal rend, which you can unlock via quest.

To compare costs, guttler perhaps costs about 135 million gil to makeThe level 75, then another 55 mil to do the last upgrade fro 95 to 99.

Farsha doesn,'t cost until level 95 and 99 upgrades, but those cost of those trials is about 120 million and 72 million respectively.

Mythic weapons cost has come down a bit recently due to the update to salvage. You can probably make a mythic weapon for as little as 420 million to start off now. That's right mythic weapons cost at least 2x of the others, And it has really been more like 3x the cost. Also the prerequisites for mythicsare much more extensive. You need to complete ToAU missions. You need to spam einherjar for 100k ichor, which you can average maybe 2k/day. You need to get 150k nyzul isle tokens, which you might be able to average 4k/day .also you need to complete the 4oldsalvage missions an d defeat all the today beast kings and Odin from einherjar.... And you need to complete all 50 assault missions 2x over (which share the limit w/ nyzul missions for how often you can do them).

I'm personally going after Aymur.mythics are a bit more realistic since the salvage upgrade, but its still a massive undertaking.
Magian the trial axes are great to have while working on a legendary weapon. Most can be made in just a couple days. For did I use a double attack ganelon and a fire path astolfo.



Edited, Jan 30th 2013 8:37am by Xilk
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#6 Jan 30 2013 at 7:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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aadrenry wrote:
Thankyou very much for your posts, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer them.
If anyone else has some advice as well please share.
One other thing I was wondering about is suggestions for which jug to use for solo dynamis farming?

In Dynamis most players use falcorr.

Falcorr and yuly are the best for farming because they are both thf types,and have treasure hunter trait. This is only level 1 of the trait though. It was needed down from level 3 a while ago. Yuly has better evasion, but falcorr has better attack.

Edited, Jan 30th 2013 8:35am by Xilk
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