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#1 Apr 11 2012 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Been gone about three years and need to prioritize the acquisition of new gear. I had really excellent gear at 75 and have been reading up on the magian trials etc.

1) I have jugger, temperance and maneater axes. How long past 75 will these be good for?

2) I also have hauby, full set of af+1 and some relic +1, again, how long before this is gimp?

3) Has temperence torque been superceded for axe skill and rampage ws?

4) Are there any jug pets that are highly desirable but limited availability on the AH?

Thanks for any help.
#2 Apr 11 2012 at 5:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Some of your relic will be useful as macro pieces at cap, and are worth upgrading to +2/3 (hands and feet, I would say, others may add to that list)

Getting your jugs to spawn at level, which is what the upgraded relic hands do, is a super dooper useful ability. The 30% reward potency that the upgraded feet give is also gravy.

You're going to start working on magian axes pretty immediately I would say. I would start with the pet -pdt axes to start with. They aren't super hard to get to the point where they make a big difference - and it does make a big difference to get your pet more tanky.

At 78, when the perle set becomes available you'll probably want to TP in it until you get some AF3 etc. Unfortunately, people b*tch and moan about people in perle and might try to make you feel bad for wearing it - but I don't think there is anything better that you can get super easily and at that level. You should just ignore them and work on your AF3, which is going to be the most achievable "good" set you can get your hands on. My advice would be to start with the pants as the Lizard that drops the seals is pretty easy and can be soloed if you have the right atmas. People are also often killing it as it drops a key item needed to pop an in demand monster, so you may encounter folks that will let you join in just to lot those seals.

I will let others speak to the other points, and really I am pretty noobish myself (I play casually and don't really get too worried about stuff) so if peeps contradict me, please feel free to listen to them but that would be my two cents.

Edited, Apr 11th 2012 4:08pm by Olorinus
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#3 Apr 12 2012 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus wrote:
At 78, when the perle set becomes available you'll probably want to TP in it until you get some AF3 etc. Unfortunately, people b*tch and moan about people in perle and might try to make you feel bad for wearing it - but I don't think there is anything better that you can get super easily and at that level.


A level 78 BST wearing Perle is no problem, especially when you can tell after a few minutes that they understand the mechanics of the job from playing it to 75 pre-Abyssea. It's the level 99 Perle bandwagon BSTs littering the CoP Dynamis landscape that give us a bad name.
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#4 Apr 12 2012 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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I always went whm to dynamis cop, usually whm but sometimes rng to northland dynamis. Cant say I am looking forward to more dynamis. My ls was pretty good about helping me get all my bst stuff upgraded but in those days whm was indispensable and there were legitimate burn out issues with constantly playing whm.

With the nerf on currency is it pretty much mission impossible to get guttler. I upgraded to the leonine axe just for LOL.

From looking around it seems like rng is a dead job for now so I plan to just focus on whm and bst. With 100 cooking and fishing I can probably become pretty well geared if I go about it the right way.
#5 Apr 13 2012 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I always went whm to dynamis cop, usually whm but sometimes rng to northland dynamis. Cant say I am looking forward to more dynamis. My ls was pretty good about helping me get all my bst stuff upgraded but in those days whm was indispensable and there were legitimate burn out issues with constantly playing whm.

With the nerf on currency is it pretty much mission impossible to get guttler. I upgraded to the leonine axe just for LOL.

From looking around it seems like rng is a dead job for now so I plan to just focus on whm and bst. With 100 cooking and fishing I can probably become pretty well geared if I go about it the right way.


Any bst can solo guttler now. It just takes about a month or 2 depending on how much you play/focus on it.

Dynamis farming and clears are pretty much a solo event for a bst.

3. Yes, Temperance torque has been superseded. Not for axe skill, but Ferine Necklace itself outperforms it... However, Rampage is not the King of BST WS anymore.

Ruinator is King WS for Bst now. You will want a sea gorget (and parallel elemental abyssea belt) for it.

Perle set will fill most of your tp needs untill you replace w/ Ferine set. All your Monster set will be useful at +2 (which is all done thru dynamis) for swap pieces.
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#6 Apr 13 2012 at 11:35 PM Rating: Decent
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What level can bst start soloing dynamis to work on Gutttler? Any threads you can refer me to that give strategy for solo? I already have cleared the cities and northlands. We never bothered to clear cop dynamis, just farmed only. Thanks for the info on the gear.
#7 Apr 14 2012 at 5:51 AM Rating: Good
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Dronamidgard wrote:
What level can bst start soloing dynamis to work on Gutttler? Any threads you can refer me to that give strategy for solo? I already have cleared the cities and northlands. We never bothered to clear cop dynamis, just farmed only. Thanks for the info on the gear.


level 90 is high enough to start soloing. maybe 85 if you stick to the lower level mobs.
bst can clear all the CoP zones solo, but getting weakness items helps alot.

look up the new dynamis maps on bgwiki. use a cheap throw away pet. Kill each of the Time extension mobs. use /dnc.
CoP zones are the most profitable for farming. After you get the time extensions, switch to yuly or falcorr.

Mobs are separated by camps similiar to abysea. 1/2 the camps will be level 75ish mobs the other side will be level 90~95ish.
kill the level 70 ish mobs. check the wiki to understand the weaknesses. Hit mobs for JA weakness (steps and flourishes and ready moves) and rake in the currency. Rinse, repeat.

Edited, Apr 14th 2012 8:01am by Xilk
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#8 Apr 14 2012 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I never levelled thief much but my wife could be convinced to do it and tag along on farming missions if it would help. So, I was wondering how helpful it would be to have a thief tag along for dynamis farming?
#9 Apr 15 2012 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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Dronamidgard wrote:
I never levelled thief much but my wife could be convinced to do it and tag along on farming missions if it would help. So, I was wondering how helpful it would be to have a thief tag along for dynamis farming?


it very helpful. Bst pet tanks fabulously in dyna and bst w/ pet can kill very very fast. If you have thf for th instead of pet, and you have 2 players hitting proc's instead of one it speeds things up alot.
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