Someone please explain this sheep thing to meFollow

A) on ep mobs the difference is negligible

B) Sheep are cheap and plentiful and they are available on the ah AT ALL TIMES. LL has one up on my server right now and the last 5 times I hit the ah there were zero available

C) Because the rest of my non-existent party doesn't bitch about my jug choices

And with good reason. Why should people burn gil on Lars over CC at 75 for something as trivial as mowing through low EP mobs?

eh, rabbit can be made with what, level 35 cooking? And the mats are pretty easy to farm. I guess it could depend on server but there are always rabbits on the AH when I check - and sometimes other non-capped/higher capped jugs are on the AH for about as cheap as the sheep (I recently picked up some leech jugs for under 10K/stack)

There is an element of cheapness but I think the biggest thing is being lazy. I mean there really is no excuse to use the sheep all the time even if your reasoning is that it is cheaper - cause there are plenty of jugs that are less than 20K a stack and better than the sheep at cap

On Asura Fatso was selling for 7K a stack while sheep is 13K/stack. (Zero up now, prolly cause people like me bought the crap out of it) Audacious Anna is 20K a stack - and though capped with no BA merits, with a couple she is fine - Gooey is 20K a stack - plenty available (though not the bestest DD, obvs) - while rabbit is 23K a stack - I've seen it way lower

basically all it takes is someone willing to put the effort in and buy stacks when they're up cheap. I haven't used the sheep in ages - when I see bst in good gear over sheep cap using a sheep I just facepalm - I think honestly it is the new definition of "buttersheep"

Edited, Dec 26th 2011 2:21pm by Olorinus

Would Fatso Fargann even be a good jug to *use* for that kind of thing? I know it's damage is way less than Swift Sieghard, given the same levels.

In any case, when you're fighting mobs that are so much lower level, just because it makes a difference doesn't mean it's enough of a difference to *care*. And there could be more reasons behind the choice than you know about. (Take my current regular use of the above-mentioned raptor. Could it be because I'm currently levelling synergy by making those? Why yes, it most certainly could.)

~sleepygirl

They are. :)

Sorry late for the discussion-
I have NEVER understood people who use sheep, even back at 80 cap. Using sheep... I cant even comprehend a reason why you would (inb4 HP tanking lol)
Also, killing EP mobs slower = the same thing as killing hard mobs slower. Why would you gimp yourself in one situation and not the other?
Rabbits (speaking for Lakshmi) are always, ALWAYS, on AH and are about 6k a stack. Rabbit also easily does 1.5x-2x the damage of sheep, can AoE farm, and can heal yourself of the minor splash damage you will always receive.

What the person you were with was probably thinking, was that the 99 jug situation was like the 75 jug situation. Sure, a level 73 HQ tiger would beat the majority (if not all) of the uncapped/75 jugs. This is by far a different situation though, as sheep has inferior stats to nearly every other top tier jug (ladybug, rabbit, tiger, slug, ect)

So in short, I have no idea Thydonon. It's like the BSTs who wear Perle or Fulltime AF3 head.

Edit: Actually, Id like someone to tell me why there would ever be a reason to summon a jug besides Rabbit (DD situations), Ladybug/Hippo (Tanking situations) or Slug (Magic situations)?

Edited, Dec 28th 2011 2:04am by ShadowsongLakshmi

I was grabbing another hadhayosh set the other day. I popped broncha instead of rabbit. Why? I wanted to dispel rage from trudging thomas so I could proc red on him.

Anytime you want a different ready move, you use the pet that has it. Also, I would opt for Shasra, Hobs, Sieghard, or clyvonne when I want movement speed. Maybe Falcorr, but I DO watch my pocketbook.

Its makes total sense to me that some prefer to use sheep because its familiar, cheap and readily available. (some ppl might think that rage actually makes it a better dd though, even though it doesn't.)

For what, to poop on?

Only cost. From the testing I've done the only real difference is charged whisker and clyvonne is caped at 90.

I could be missing things. I don't have a good attack comparison between them yet.

Edited, Dec 28th 2011 5:44pm by Xilk

Nice necro,
Whirl Claws is a better move to use during AMK than Sheep Song anyway

Yea, pet shrugs off any and all nukes. I assume sheep would be the better option back at 85-95

Sheep-related info from the VW Weakness Revision Dev post: