Bst Atmas?Follow

Some desireable Atma for Bst include:
VV (Voracious Violet I think) - Huge Attack boost and regain
Mounted Champion - Vitality Boost and significant regen
Ducal Guard - 50% Physical Damage Taken reduction when under 50%.
Apocalypse - Auto reraise.

Atma benefit your pets as well as yourself, so these can make your pets enormously potent. If you use Dipper Yuly, there are also some Evasion based Atma to look into. Ducal Guard is usually used by people who also do magian trials for pdt reduction axes.

Most Atma are gained by defeating a particular Abyssea NM under certain conditions, that condition usually optimized by the successful trigger of the NM's weakness (called staggering). To actually equip Atma however, you need a key item called Lunar Abyssite. You can buy one of those from a cruor prospector. The other two are earned by beating your third and seventh Abyssea zone boss, respectively. You then pay a trivial fee in cruor to activate as many Atmas as you can each time you enter Abyssea. There is no reason not to gather a great many more than those I've listed, because there is no limit to how many you can have... just how many you can access at any one time. It should be noted that of the 4 I listed, one is quested and one comes from defeating the final boss after defeating all 9 zone bosses. There is no harm in using what you can get until you acquire better. There should be a wealth of information on this site for you to peruse, so I hope this helps point you in the right direction.

Apocalypse

does it affect our pets too? :D

Thanks a lot for the replies. So all atmas apply to the player and their pet, if they have one?

Also, what about the 3 expansions that came out before Abyssea (Shantotto, etc.)? They have nothing to do with atmas?

Thanks again.

don't forget the 13% SLOW

keep in mind this grain of salt for whatever you are doing. Having regain is great, but I don't think you need this atma unless you are only engaging long enough to do WS or ready moves. Though, when soloing low tier NM"s and going for blu proc (then resetting if you can't proc it, this atma is perfect)

If you want to spam WS, use atma of apoc. +15% triple attack is much better since you get the DOT increase and WS increase from it also.

Thanks, Xilk.

I know on a lot of jobs they think:

Razed Ruins + Sanguine Scythe + Apocalypse

Razed ruins is obvious, ridiculous damage increase via critical hits and critical hit damage increase. Also a nice accuracy boost.

Sanguine Scythe now has a nice use since they increased the cap on critical hit damage, and from what I'm told, generally increases damage more than Voracious Violet does, as you can often cap fSTR without VV.

Apocalypse is nice for the reraise, occasional quick shadows if /nin, and the 15% triple attack is huge for ws and for tping.



I guess for most jobs, Voracious Violet is outperformed by Sanguine Scythe, since you can get a ton of +STR with cruor buffs (and furtherance) and a mess of +STR if you have good gear.

However, on BST and PUP on particular, I kind of wonder about Sanguine vs. Voracious (and I'm excluding avatars, because the masters on BST and PUP without their pets well outperform a summoner, so ideally you want good atma for both, not just one).

I wonder, because automatons and jug pets don't get crazy strength bonuses from gear or from cruor bonuses. Throwing on Voracious Violet increases their STR most times by more than 50%, which is pretty big. It's harder if not impossible in a lot of cases to cap fSTR on pets than it is on playable characters. But I don't know if that big increase in STR outweighs the bonus from Sanguine Scythe.

So I kind of wonder, on BST and PUP, if 50 STR, 2 regain, and 5% double attack would outperform the critical attack bonus from Sanguine Scythe, only because the pets don't have the STR luxury that the masters get. I do know that +STR does a LOT on summoners, as the avatars benefit a lot from +STR, but at the same time they have ridiculous modifiers on the 70 bloodpacts. Hell, gnarled horn does a lot on puppetmaster as well for sharpshot, as the +AGI increases the damage quite a bit on armor shatterer. So I'm really not sure comparatively on these. I guess I'll have to look at some of Nazuna...

So now I'm at...

Razed Ruins + Apocalypse + One of the following

Sanguine Scythe -> Master does a little better, pet -maybe- does worse
Voracious Violet -> Pet -maybe- does a little better, master does worse

So I wonder which would overall work out better. Something to ponder I guess.

For 99% of situations you are probably going to have;
1) Razed Ruins
2) Ducal Guard
3) ???

Third can be anything from VV/Sanguine Scythe if you need more damage, Cloak and Dagger/Stronghold/Vicissitude/Future Fabulous if you need more help tanking, or VV/Sea Daughter if you need to proc.

Mobs do not have weapons. If you consider this when comparing the STR and base damage, you'll find no difference.

ffxiclopedia shows +40% Lightning attack on the page for Atma of the Lion, but it shows the bonus as +30% on the Atma summary page. I've read that the other wikis also list it as 30%. That would make it in line with the ice attack bonus on Beyond as well.

It also deserves mentioning "Atma of the Savior" and "Atma of the Luminous Wings". While possibly two of the hardest atmas to obtain in the game, they are unbelievably effective on keeping pets alive. Savior says a 10% proc on absorption, but it certainly feels like its WAY more, especially when you absorb 1-2k nukes back to back to back.
If these atma are out of reach, perhaps try looking into "Atma of the Demonic Lash".

While "Atma of a Future Fabulous" is generally better than using any of the elemental resist atmas, some people are pretty far from finishing WoTG, or have zero desire to finish it. If this is the case, using the resist atmas are somewhat as effective. Endless Nightmare, Frozen Fetters, Brother Wolf (doubly good since it has MDB+10 as well), Ascending One, Holy Mountain, ect. all of these can make any element based mob much much easier.


Edit: Friend just tested "Atma of the Savior" + "Atma of the Ace Angler" + "Future Fabulous" + "Killer Crossbow" + "Flawless Ribbon" against Yaanie. Every single Break/ga was resisted, as well as 90% of the zombie+bio effect from Besieger's Bane. Pretty epic

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 11:54pm by ShadowsongLakshmi