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#1 Aug 18 2011 at 6:14 PM Rating: Excellent

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Camate wrote:

We’d like to introduce some of the job adjustments planned for the upcoming version update.

Run Wild* Lv93
Enhances summoned pet. However, the pet will disappear when the effect is removed or wears off.

New Call Beast pets will be added.

With that in mind, we are planning to introduce the two species below as pets!
Smilodon and Slug Picture..

Oh yeah...one more thing.
Now this is me talking about the future, but we have had a lot of request to use HNM monsters and have bird-type pets, so we are thinking it might be about to time to add these monsters to the ******* of Call Beast:
Adamantoise Picture: This bad boy is envisioned as being implemented as the size of the ones residing in Abyssea.
Apkallu Picture...
You probably are hoping for your own Colibri, eh?

(*Please note that names and descriptions are under development and are subject to change.)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/12293-Bst-Job-adjustment-manifesto-concerns-and-questions.?p=172898#post172898

Edited, Aug 18th 2011 11:11pm by Szabo

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#2 Aug 18 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good

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Wowza! I was kind of hoping for a new Crab/tank pet before 99, but I'd certainly settle for a halfpint adamantoise instead!

Very unexpected, and very awesome news! You just made my day :D

Edited, Aug 19th 2011 4:50am by GenryuOfBahamut

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#3 Aug 18 2011 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good

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I can't wait to test the run wild ability.
Also, checking what tp moves the slug and tiger have will be great.
I'm hoping the smilodon will have more than the 3 tp moves that earlier tigers have had, and I hope for some good Ice elemental resistance.
Otherwise, I don't see much difference between smilodon and our current shasra. (movement speed, high attack, potent paralyze...)

I'm very interested to see what the slug has. I expect corrosive ooze.. and that would be FANTASTIC! the Slug TP moves are VERY potent! I don't expect them to keep encumbrance effect though... although if they do, i am so going to do some ballista rounds :D. I was really wishing for a slug pet back when they first announced the level cap increase. (I have several posts in these forums stating so)

Another BIG deal about slugs: I'm sure few have realized it... but slugs ABSORB water magic.

SE will probably nerf that... if not, then all those water magic spamming NM's just became REALLY easy solo's. (Sedna, Hrosshvalur, Iku-turso, nahn, poroggo's, etc.) (ie, you can stack DD atma on the slug and it will still keep high hp for absorbing all the water magic hits).

yay for another amorph!! but water absorption will probably largely replace fargann as a water tank. Fargann still has the blunt damage reduction however... and they might nerf water absorbtion and replace w/ a high water resistance /cry.

I can't wait to test out the bonus from the new Run Wild ability....

Edited, Aug 19th 2011 1:10am by Xilk

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#4 Aug 18 2011 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good

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Will be very interesting if slugs do retain their ability to absorb water damage. I remember XP'ing with these things back when I levelled Thf/bst, they are gonna be so much fun if they dont receive some type of nerf.

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#5 Aug 19 2011 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent

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A ******* Adamantoise!?

Gahhh why did I quit!

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#6 Aug 19 2011 at 11:43 AM Rating: Good

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I foresee Dragon Ball fanboys coming up with /p, /say and /emote macros for their new turtle pets.

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#7 Aug 19 2011 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good

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Giant turtle. YES!!

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#8 Aug 19 2011 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good

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oh nice jug pets.

I'm not happy with an ability that makes our jugs last less time though. I mean maybe you folks are all rolling in money but I doubt I will ever use it since I can't really afford to toss pets away.

If it lasts a half hour I will but anything less than that and it just becomes too expensive.

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#9 Aug 20 2011 at 12:34 AM Rating: Excellent

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Olorinus wrote:

oh nice jug pets.

I'm not happy with an ability that makes our jugs last less time though. I mean maybe you folks are all rolling in money but I doubt I will ever use it since I can't really afford to toss pets away.

If it lasts a half hour I will but anything less than that and it just becomes too expensive.

I understand the concern, but I don't agree. If the buff lasts 5 min, then it lasts long enough for CB. If you are in a tough fight, is your pet going to last long enough anyway? how many pet food biscuits or mulsums are you going to use? If its a pet like lulush, clyvonne, nazuna... then pets are much cheaper than the restorative items to keep them alive. And assuming it buffs up pet offense, then it will be cheaper to use, not more expensive.

Its all situational ofcourse. Hate dynamics will make a big difference in if we use it or not, but thats how bst has always been imo.

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#10 Aug 20 2011 at 4:30 AM Rating: Good

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I would love for the ability to give your pet stats like a real wild pet. *Cackles*

And I'm loving that idea of that Tiger. Tigers have high stats for offensive mobs, Razor Claw / Claw Cyclone are nice WS's and the aoe Paralyze is potent. Too bad the earlier ones capped out like they did. Hopefully all these won't have any silly level cap nonsense.

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#11 Aug 20 2011 at 8:20 AM Rating: Excellent

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saevellakshmi wrote:

I would love for the ability to give your pet stats like a real wild pet. *Cackles*

And I'm loving that idea of that Tiger. Tigers have high stats for offensive mobs, Razor Claw / Claw Cyclone are nice WS's and the aoe Paralyze is potent. Too bad the earlier ones capped out like they did. Hopefully all these won't have any silly level cap nonsense.

the only ones likesly to cap out before 99 are the ones that were added in the first stint from 76~85. Nazuna capped at 86. I would not be surprised if a few more cap out before 99, but I think anything added after 86 will not cap out at all.

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#12 Aug 20 2011 at 8:57 AM Rating: Excellent

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Glad to see we're getting a new ja. I'm hoping it'll boost our jug pets power to wild pets for the time limit. I'm even okay with the time reduction.

Not really all that exciting about another tiger. Still want a bird type pet. The leech though should be a lot of fun.

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#13 Aug 20 2011 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent

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Szabo wrote:

Now this is me talking about the future, but we have had a lot of request to use HNM monsters and have bird-type pets, so we are thinking it might be about to time to add these monsters to the ******* of Call Beast:

Doesn't say just a tortoise but other HNM too. If BST get a mini Fafnir or Nidhogg my DRG is going to be very jealous...

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#14 Aug 20 2011 at 10:22 AM Rating: Excellent

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jtftaru wrote:

Szabo wrote:

Now this is me talking about the future, but we have had a lot of request to use HNM monsters and have bird-type pets, so we are thinking it might be about to time to add these monsters to the ******* of Call Beast:

Doesn't say just a tortoise but other HNM too. If BST get a mini Fafnir or Nidhogg my DRG is going to be very jealous...

This is SE we're talking about. We'll probably get a souped up Bubbly Bernie.

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#15 Aug 24 2011 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good

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Xilk wrote:

saevellakshmi wrote:

I would love for the ability to give your pet stats like a real wild pet. *Cackles*

And I'm loving that idea of that Tiger. Tigers have high stats for offensive mobs, Razor Claw / Claw Cyclone are nice WS's and the aoe Paralyze is potent. Too bad the earlier ones capped out like they did. Hopefully all these won't have any silly level cap nonsense.

the only ones likesly to cap out before 99 are the ones that were added in the first stint from 76~85. Nazuna capped at 86. I would not be surprised if a few more cap out before 99, but I think anything added after 86 will not cap out at all.

I was away from the game for a couple of years when the level caps increased. Is the Nazuna cap that you speak of before taking into account Monster Gloves and merit points?

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#16 Aug 24 2011 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good

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Monster Gloves does not raise the possible cap of a pet. When you use a jug pet, it will be between 0 and 2 levels lower than you. Monster gloves makes it so that it will spawn 0~1 levels lower than you. Summoning a jug that is capped below your level will make monster gloves do absolutely nothing.

Meaning, that w/ 0 Beast affinity merits (at level 90) Nursery Nazuna will ALWAYS spawn at level 86. That is where Nazuna caps. If you have 5x BA merits then, the new cap for nazuna is level 96. It can still be useful at level 99, but it will be weaker.

Since nothing else caps below level 89, then w/ ba merits all other jugs will be useful at level 99.

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#17 Aug 25 2011 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good

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So are Monster Gloves pretty much useless now?

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#18 Aug 25 2011 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good

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BadLarry wrote:

So are Monster Gloves pretty much useless now?

Not at all. Their usefulness has never changed.

when you normally use call beast (jug pet is NOT capped) then it has 50% chance of being 2 levels lower than you, 33% chance of being 1 level lower than you, and 16.6% chance of being same level as you.

Using Monster gloves, there is 0% chance that is is 2 levels below you. I don't think anyone has finished testing w/them.. I should double check the other thread to be sure, but I think the rate at which you get pets 1 level below you is 66% chance, and same level is 33% chance, when using Monster gloves.

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#19 Aug 25 2011 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent

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u wana hook me up some of the new jugs when it comes out xilk??? i need ur gilz0r!

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#20 Aug 29 2011 at 12:36 PM Rating: Excellent

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I was experimenting with the slug earlier today on the test server.

Unfortunately it doesnt absorb water damage like we had all hoped. It is quite resistant to it though, I decided to test him out on Hrosshvalur in Aby.Vunkerl. Hrosshvalurs spit ball attacks were hitting the slug for 17 damage consistantly. Waterja was hitting him for 500ish.

I should point out that I used no defensive gear or atma, as I wanted to get an idea of the slugs native resistances. At 95 the Slug took down the NM with very little difficulty, one downside however is the slugs attack power doesnt seem that great, especially compared to the tiger (Who seems like a pretty solid DD option, against the coastal Colibri he was doing 300-400 hit and 500-600+ crits so he could potentially do piercing damage?).

On another note I'm not sure what kind of an impact Run Wild is having, I have noticed my hp goes up a little amount (about the same as familiar) when I use it, but I've not noticed much in the way of a damage boost (from eyeballing). I guess it needs testing, maybe there is some kind of other boost such as haste, crit rate or somthing like that, I really have no idea.

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 7:15pm by GenryuOfBahamut

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#21 Aug 29 2011 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent

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How did you obtain the new jug pets on the test server? Did you have to craft them or did the moogles give them to you? Just curious what the materials might be to make them.

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#22 Aug 29 2011 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent

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The moogle gave them to me, you can get an unlimited supply of the new jugs as well as pet food eta from him. I have no idea what the synthesis will involve unfortunately.

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#23 Aug 29 2011 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good

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That's awesome about unlimited jugs and pet food. Are they rare/ex to prevent you from stocking up on them before you leave the test server?

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#24 Aug 29 2011 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good

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The test server makes a copy of your toon. Nothing can be transfer.

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 3:44pm by Satington

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#25 Aug 29 2011 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good

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moogle give you any item at all? Aymur?

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#26 Aug 29 2011 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good

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No, he gives a small selection of different item types. Unfortunately its a little buggy atm, they menus are directing to the wrong set of items.

The weapons are various NM drops such as Isilador and Charmers Merlin, as well as the +2 WoE line of weapons. So you can play around with some of the other WSs if you dont have them unlocked yet.

Edited, Aug 29th 2011 9:44pm by GenryuOfBahamut

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