Soloable Abyssea NMs?Follow

Pdt Axex2 - 20%
mini expansion hat - 10%
AF3+1/2 legs and Stout Servant job trait - 7-8%ish

that with DG gives the 88% pdt. If you use a minor pdt atma along with DG you get 98%. I currently use RR/DG/Heavens for this setup. I tried out Tremors since its pdt and mdt but the minor on it is not 10%, maybe 5% to both pdt/mdt. I took more damage with tremors than heavens.

Now once you do that and add in the shepherd's chain - 2% you should have 100% pdt. I haven't got that chain yet myself but I assume it would top off the pdt.

Doesn't have much more hp than any other tier 2 NM, it just keeps using pyric bulwhark which is 100% physical resistance. Easily doubles the time it takes to kill it, more so if it uses pyric more than polar bulwhark. (which is 100% magic resist.)

Not worth it to solo him anyway. Jaculus is pretty much unsoloable, so you will want to trigger ningishzada every time for the key item, anyway.

Jaculus by the way, ignores hate. I had literally no hate, (had just snarled in correct range, and didn't use any abilities or spells) and he still kept coming after me. Think it just randomly attacks anyone. 3 fights and I still haven't been able to kill it. Sure it's possible, but getting the wings from gold chests is easier than killing that bastard.

Please let us know how this goes. <3

I tried this fight a couple of time solo, a few weeks ago, with 100% PDT and shortly after each Tarsal Slam my pet would just drop dead. He was taking 0 dmg from regular attacks when below 50% HP, but after coming down to 1HP the 100% PDT wouldn't stop Nazuna from dying. ; ; Maybe you'll have better luck?

Edited, Feb 13th 2011 3:44pm by Bookmarku

I didn't see it in the log, so I'm not sure how it happens. ; ;

I've been soloing NMs with this build:

90 BST/DNC
Guichard's Axe+2 (Pet:PDT-10%)/Guichard's Axe+2 (Pet:PDT-10%)/--/Astrolabe
Anwig Salade (Pet:Haste+5%/PDT-10%)/Shepherd's Chain/Moonshade Earring/Brutal Earring
Ferine Gausape +1/Ocelot Gloves/Rajas Ring/Toreador's Ring
Atheling Mantle/Twilight Belt/Ferine Quijotes +2/Aurum Sabatons

Using Lion (Triple Attack/Lightning Attack+/PDT-10%), Ducal Guard, and Razed Ruins...
and I figured Resheph would be another walk in the park, and so it was really confusing when it didn't work out as planned. o_o I have my macros set up so I'm always in PDT gear 100% of the time, so there were no gear swaps that left my pet without max PDT... I just dunno.

Yeah, my friend bst repeated this before I got the chance... I"m complaining to SE. frankly I don't care so much that tarsal slam drops you to 1 hp... its the losing that last 1 hp that bothers me.

guess I could have posted that bit about shasra not resisting lightning. I noticed that a few weaks ago. I've been meaning to test w/ Clyvonne to see if its a difference between coeurl and lynx. I've been alot more interested in elemental resistance for tanking NM's lately.
On the other hand, the Elemental resist atmas are quite good. You might want to try Atma of the war lion.
I know atma of the frozen fetters was nice for reducing big ice nukes down to below 300 damage range when soloing Cannered Noz. (2nd time wasn't a solo as getting help w/ blu proc is very nice)

I've seen smn using ducal guard duo Turul, but I've not heard of bst doing it. Then again.. if you went for a -mdt approach it is proably doable... or take the LOOOOONNGGG slow fight of DG + WG + MC. I'm pretty sure that will work... eventually. Really tedious though.

Edited, Feb 16th 2011 1:47am by Xilk

I tried Turul yesterday as BST/BLM while doing some quests in the area. Had on DG, RR, and Stronghold. I wasn't totally prepared (only a Healing Salve II and one stack of Zetas), but figured I'd give it a try. I only had two Dippers on me so I opened up with a sheep. Took him down 10% or so before I had to switch over to Yuly. Was going pretty well. I'd let the Aero spells hit and would try to stun any thunder spells I saw.

The spikes did suck and made it difficult. I ended up getting him to about 28% before wiping. I think it's possible to solo. I'm gonna try again in a few days. However, as mentioned, definitely could be done BST and BLM or two BST with at least one as /BLM.

Nonetheless I love the possibilities that have opened up with DG atma!

Did my first tests on -100% PDT setup last night. Only used swift sieghard. Started with atma of the lion to go with DG and Lusca was hitting for 0. After that I went to check on Hedjet, but it wasn't up. This would be a nice test for Blados theory since it can do 1024+ damage moves.

Next I went to misarux coast and used atma of the zenith and farmed VNM tier 1 and 2 and they were hitting for 0. Zenith is -DT so my MDT set is at 83%. The -ga 4s from tier 2 were hitting for around 210-260 damage. It was no probablem keeping up with a couple of zeta foods. One thing I realized was that the regen effect on zeta food reward could be a problem if pet regens above 50% against something like hedjet and gets 1-shot before it's below 50% again.

I also ran into ironclad severer and it was hitting for 0 incl. balistic kick. I didn't fight it for long since it wasnøt my intention to kill it.

At first I changed all my macroes so I wouldn't switch out any PDT/MDT/DT gear at all. But after doing tier 2 VNM last night I think I'll change that again so I switch out any PDT gear and only use reward while mobs are casting.

Just wanted to throw out that Clyvonne is not resistant to lightning either. Found this out rather quickly when going toe to toe with Gration. Thank goodness he is easy to kite.

I tried to do that, but he turned around to face yuly after every serpentine tail for some reason. So I just said @#%^ it.

Speaking of Clyvonne not resisting lightning, are any of the pets besides Fatso and Dipper resistance to any elements? It sure would be nice to have more element-resistance pets.

funguar 50% dark resist. very nice.
I have this impression that the lizards will be more fire resistant.. but I haven't tested..
also sheep is weak against fire, so thats probably 1/2 the reason.


mandragora strogn toward light.
tigers strong toward ice (none at high levels though)

ahh... looks like raptors are strong to fire, probably where I was getting confused.

gonna want to test them, its not a guarentee... I'm only sure about yuly, fargann, and louise.



Edited, Feb 20th 2011 5:07pm by Xilk

Stout Servant Bst trait = 5%
Guichard's Axe+2 x 2 = -20%
Anwig Salade = -10%
Shepherd's Chain = -2%
Ferine Quijotes -2%

Atma of the Lion = -10%
Atma of the Ducal Guard (below pet 50% HP) = -50%
Atma of the RR = 0% (DD atma)

This is at 99%, what am i missing? Lol.

pdt gear.
2x guichard's axe +2
mini expansion head. total -30% pdt gear
atma's only able to use 2 atma. since we dont belong to a abys static nore is my ls big enough to farm atma's.
-ducal gaurd
-mounted champion..... somtimes i use sea daughter instead of this.

long kills due to no DD atma's.

this isnt solo but a buddy and i have duo'ed inronclad severer, ironclad observer, we tried ironclad executioner but due to us being low on time we decided to go kill seps for bst feet seals instead. we took ironclad executioner to about 75% with our pets baerely being hurt. seps, sirrush, bugul noz (easy, but poison was what endded up making us spam tons of pet food, not a very cost effective fight.) bakka, raskovnik, abbysic cluster, minax bugard.

pets just seem to be able to tank anything that uses physical attacks only. btw does anyone know a rating list on the ironclads easyiest to hardest?

Edited, Feb 21st 2011 8:32pm by rdyzz

I have some inputs after soloing some of the NMs:

Ironclad Cleaver: Soloable at lv90 Bst/Nin with 2x -pdt axes, 4 Sheep and a stack of zeta; MG, Stout Arm and Strong Hold atma (didn't have RR and DG). The hate reset move is the one you should watch out for since it will deal a lot of damage if you are close and will cause. The amnesia attacks will also cripple you if you get hit by those. I was killed twice (lost 2 sheep) because I was inexperience but managed to RR and fought again.

Ironclad Executioner: I did much better with this one because of DG and RR atma and only need 1 sheep + about 10 zeta. I pulled it close to the Bastion area but closer to the rocky area so I can kite around after hate reset move. The HP reduction move does not have an effect of DG so even if the Sheep has 80% something HP because of the Iron Giant attacks, the damage taken will still be pretty low.

Finally got my full set. I still need Lion but I'm set to go with 100% -pdt. I'm pretty excited to give some of these nm's a shot. Thanks for helping a lurker with all the information. Keep posting your solo's. I definitely am looking forward to the challenge.

Oh and Shepherd's Chain was the piece I was missing, what a pain. Only took me 1/6, still a hassle.

Well I have everything: axe x2, neck, head, ferine +2. Thing is, I've seen people in this thread talking about how this is 100% but monsters were still hitting for damage. Long-Barreled Chariot was hitting for 12-26 damage earlier (this was with DG and earth) and it's special attacks for 100-250 (homing missile). According to other people so far, these hits should have been 0, no? Am I missing something, or are 0 damage hits impossible?

Edit: I do see people saying 0 hits and I don't doubt it. I'm just wondering if there's something I'm missing that they had.

First solo post in thread:

Sedna. Had the KI's sitting in inventory for a while and decided to give it a go. Used Fatso with full pdt set. Used DG/RR/MC. MC was unnecessary, I recommend going for a second DD atma. Hate seemed kind of screwy as he would occasionally turn on me, which was somewhat problematic making it difficult to get into snarl range with its knock back on attack.

Super easy fight, TP'd the entire time and didn't need any pet food. Besides the touch and go pull with all the pugil about and the hate issues, was extremely easy.



Edited, Feb 23rd 2011 4:10am by Paskil

No. I fought both Long-Barreled Chariot and Vadleany With RR/DG/Earth Wyrm so your explanation regarding the lesser amount of DR must be correct. I'll just have to get lion and see. I never intended to go for, or come anywhere near 100% anything in my Sedna fight. I should have had 90% with my atma/gear which I assumed (and was correct) in being enough for this particular NM, and I'm sure many others.

It must be DR Minor=5%
PDT Minor=10%

Edit: IcemanDK states earlier on this page in the second paragraph that he was using EWZenith and getting hit for 0. I wonder if this was in conjunction with DG/Lion. Otherwise, that makes no sense.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2011 5:05am by Paskil

My -100% PDT atma setups have always been RR/DG and then a 3rd. So far I have tested atma of the lion -10% PDT and atma of the zenith -10% DT. I haven't tested atma of the heavens yet and I don't have atma of the earth wyrm or atma of tremors.

Here's a few pics I took with 0 hits. Ironclad Severer, Lusca and spiders (not NM I know).

Sure you were using DG, earth wyrm AND lion at the same time? This should be well above -100% with our gear. I guess we can test if earth wyrm is -5% with DG+lion and then remove neck and ferine+1/+2 pants.

Edited, Feb 24th 2011 7:04am by IcemanDK

Killed Alfard today. Had to use DG/heavens/MC to keep yuly alive though as I only have 20%- from axes and ferine pants+2. Alfard takes single digit damage and even gambirs only push that up to 15ish a swing. Only criticals do any useful damage at all. You really really need the moogle hat if you want to solo him, as I needed mounted champion+87% damage reduction to keep yuly alive. (etas are a bad idea, as healing her above 50% hp at the wrong time will result in her dropping close to death if he triple attacks, or ws's right after.)

Would have timed out if a group hadn't added extra damage. (Or raged him. Does he rage? @#%^ if I want to test it, he's mean enough already.) Looks like I need to pay people to get me an anwig hat before I can get my body+2, since no one ever needs that damn mission.

Also, for both ninghishida and alfard, to get behind them, run straight through them. If you run around them they will just turn to follow you, and nerve gas you to death while you futilely try to get into position. Also try and do the fight somewhere flat, if yuly's heel pathing runs a mile away because of the terrain, they will also turn around.

On a positive note, I triggered yellow with katon ni, and got 3/9 cards!

Edited, Feb 24th 2011 6:36am by louispv

I'm guessing the Hedjet solo was with -100% PDT. Did you notice any 1+ dmg hits from it's very high dmg moves? This was talked about before with the x/1024 reduction formula and possible why Resheph kills a pet at 1 HP. Or Resheph or -PDT is just bugged somehow at 1 HP.

I've noticed this with certain pets also, mostly DipperYuly. Its "50%" health seems to occur around 70% HP according to <pethpp>. Anyone else notice this? Dunno why that would happen... I've seen the Ducal Guard activation % change based on halving max HP (added effect from Quasimodo's Shadow Burst) or other such alterations (like Atma of the Alpha and Omega), but I'm not sure why the halfway point would naturally be different compared to something like Nazuna.

Just tried that with BST/WHM, WHM/RDM, and WAR/DNC. Should have had the WHM go BST and we woulda won. The bosses attacks do maybe 150 to nazuna and the henchmen are so low level their spells are resisted by the pet alot. Sub WHM or RDM though. Even with gimped enhancing skill and no MND gear, stoneskin still soaks up 2-3 of the bosses attacks. (his normal attacks are low damage magic aoe's.) Shadows do nothing, and you can't heal yourself fast enough from /DNC. (maybe you can, but you'd definitely pull hate.

WAR got hit with terror and died immediately at the start, then continued to melee after he was raised, and got double weakened. He basically sat out the rest of the fight. Nazuna tanked the boss from 90%-> 50%, where he popped his minions and ran away. Sheep songed them and was able to kill 3.5 of the 5 before any woke up. Still easily finished off the henchmen with little trouble. The boss came back down and nazuna soloed him pretty handily from 100%-50% where he repeated it again. (did use etas instead of zetas, but with no ducal guard I wanted to stay at full health rather than 50%) So of course I repeated the same thing too.

Only problem was the final stage where he popped the kiddos without running away. He spawned the henchmen at 50% and used washtub at the same time. Incredibly weak aoe, but has a low chance of amnesia, which it of course hit me with. Everyone's afraid of the flare move, washtub's the nasty one. Stun bind and amnesia. The henchmen all casted ga 3's and tier 4's on me, while all I could do is watch, unable to use sheep song. Even with shell V, 5 spells killed me. (nazuna was still at 75% even after 4 ga 3's, right before she depopped) For some reason the henchmen go after the master even if the pet has hate, maybe they aggro.

It's absolutely duoable. If I had just watched my sheep instead of fighting the boss myself, (and thus never got amnesia'd.) it might have been soloable. Your only enemy probably would have been the time limit. In a duo, just having one guy hang back out of range of wash tub should guarantee victory. (just need to sleep those minions, the boss's attacks are so weak, but the minions' spells sometimes don't resist. And with 5 spells coming at a time, eventually one won't.)

Now I have to go spend 6 hours farming a stack of apkallu eggs before I can try again. @#%^ your 80k a stack price tag. Was fun to drop 2000-3000 damage rampages with an under leveled WHM sub, and a pet defense axe, though. Or see 500 damage normal hits from nazuna with 650 crits. They're like qutrub, they take double damage to everything. but have double hp to make up for it.

If you're counting on Sheep Song, amnesia on the pet would hose your plans as well.

You really want your sleeper to not get hate in the moogle fight until the third phase. Their job is to sleep and kill babies, not get on the bosses hate list. That way they avoid draw in. The babies are still the thing that`s going to screw you, they`ll wipe level 90`s very easily if they get their spells off. Apart from that you just need to be able to deal with the mobs. Easy stuff if you can take a BLM.


Edited, Feb 25th 2011 5:55pm by blowfin