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#102 Jan 30 2008 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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I would be down for sponsoring that, but Yoshime still hates my guts.

/cry
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#103 Jan 30 2008 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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Siviard wrote:
I would be down for sponsoring that, but Yoshime still hates my guts.

/cry


Stories! Drama! We demand STORIES and DRAMA!


j/k...kinda
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#104 Jan 30 2008 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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Transfer over to Shiva, join LoTB and Rhukha's NeoBSU sky LS and I'll fill you in on ALL t3h gory details! MUUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH /evillaugh
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#105 Jan 30 2008 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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son of a....
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#106 Jan 30 2008 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's that simple....transfer to Shiva, you get drama filled story!

Stay where you are....no drama filled story for j00!
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#107 Jan 30 2008 at 9:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh yes, Shiva is a raging pit of drama ever since BSU split from LoTB. But the competition between our 2 bst linkshells(LoTB for social, BSU for events) is nothing compared to the fury of Yoshime vs Siviard at CarpeNoctem dynamis. I wasnt there, but i heard it was epic.

For anyone interested in all bst videos from Shiva, ive started working on another from BSU and it should be done in a bit over a month, depending on whether or not i can get some of the fights i want to include done.
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#108 Jan 31 2008 at 3:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Constant personal drama aside.

Go go guttler(s) and such.

OT: I want to do nyzul isle :(.



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#109 Jan 31 2008 at 4:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Constant personal drama aside.

Go go guttler(s) and such.

OT: I want to do nyzul isle :(.



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#110 Jan 31 2008 at 4:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Edit: Triple post :(



Edited, Jan 31st 2008 7:24am by Tomlionhart
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#111 Jan 31 2008 at 4:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Edit: Triple post

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 7:24am by Tomlionhart
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#112 Jan 31 2008 at 4:30 AM Rating: Excellent
hey siviard, good luck on your Guttler project!
you should hear Rhukha's advice
I got my guttler through speed belt drop from KSNM99
you should consider that too you know, who knows if it will drop anyway ?
#113 Jan 31 2008 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Oh yes, Shiva is a raging pit of drama ever since BSU split from LoTB. But the competition between our 2 bst linkshells(LoTB for social, BSU for events) is nothing compared to the fury of Yoshime vs Siviard at CarpeNoctem dynamis. I wasnt there, but i heard it was epic.

For anyone interested in all bst videos from Shiva, ive started working on another from BSU and it should be done in a bit over a month, depending on whether or not i can get some of the fights i want to include done.


Yeah, that was pretty drama filled, and I'm very sorry it happened. But at least now we all hang out with each other again (minus Yoshime) and do some stuff together.

And the thing with Yoshime wasn't THAT epic. All I was doing was trying to talk to her via /tells and trying to apologize for what happened and explain myself. All of my words were sincere and from the heart because I do care about the LS and I respect her.....then she decided to (in /say btw so it was public viewing) publicly humiliate me in front of the entire CarpeNoctem LS by telling me to stop harassing her.

I've moved on. I've given up trying to apologize to her. I tried MULTIPLE times. It's not my fault she refuses to accept my apology. Oh well, such is life. To be perfectly honest, I have no idea why she's so ****** at me. She won't explain herself to me so I'm still here clueless. /shrug

BTW, who rated down my posts? Step up...
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#114 Jan 31 2008 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm lurking and just curious - if one shell is social and the other event, then why the drama? On Unicorn we have the same thing, but without the drama.


p.s. Because this is my first comment in the thread, I have to also add, good luck with getting Guttler!

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#115 Jan 31 2008 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Nah, the drama is about 95% gone. Just the lingering "hatred" towards me by one person.

Everyone else between the 2 shells are friends again.
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#116 Jan 31 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Siviard wrote:
BTW, who rated down my posts? Step up...


Welcome to the club.


I've been noticing this going on a fair bit recently. Seems like we have another rate-troll.


But it really doesn't matter. Forum trolls come and go. And at least we aren't like some forums with a resident troll who posts negative stuff in every thread and/or tries to derail it.
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#117 Jan 31 2008 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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It's the BST forum; worst-case scenario: your posts end up Good rather than Excellent. >_>
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#118 Feb 01 2008 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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Sivi??? Drama???

Say it 'aint so, man!

<3

:P
#119 Feb 01 2008 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Not my fault Quetzy "normies" are mostly douchebags....
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#120 Feb 04 2008 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hey Siviard,

My brother forwarded me the link to your thread and I just wanted to drop in and say a few things.

First off, my hat's off to you for undertaking this. Its gutsy to try to upgrade a relic legitimately (i.e., no botting or gil-buying) in the first place, but to have it publicly tracked deserves a lot of credit. I wish you all the luck possible that you are successful, and I will definitely be checking back in on your progress.

I just recently began putting into place my own little operation to upgrade an Aegis for my PLD. I consider this my ultimate personal goal in the game, above and beyond everything else, so believe me when I say I sympathize with what you're going through. :-)

A few words of advice:

Time. Is. Money. I cannot stress this enough. You need to look at everything you are doing to make money and figure out what gives you the best return for your time. Here is a good example: My THF is only 19, so farming up 12 tree cuttings takes me about an hour and a half. Conversely, I can hit up my favorite farming spot for NPC-sellable drops and walk away with 50-60k an hour, which will allow me to purchase 2+ stacks of cuttings from the AH in the same amount of time it would take me to farm up a single stack on my own. This allows me to maximize my time/money ratio (and I am sponsoring some else's farming efforts, so the economic cycle continues and we both benefit). Look at all the things you are doing and prioritize where you can make the most gil in the least amount of time.

Focus on three main area to make your gil: farming, crafting, and gardening. I may have missed it somewhere along the way, but I don't think anyone on this thread has talked much about the financial benefits of a successful gardening operation, and I cannot stress enough how important this is. The only major time investments required are your initial set-up (purchasing the pots and furnishings, setting up, planting) and the end-result harvesting.

Along the way, you will need to check your pots *religiously* (twice a day is definitely recommended), but once you get in a groove, you can check them very quickly. To give you an idea, I have 160 pots going right now (my main plus 15 mules, 10 pots each) and I can check all 160 pots (twice each) in no more than 15-20 minutes. I have made this part of my daily morning/evening routine, and you *must* be diligent about it, but trust me, the rewards are great, and it can all happen while you are off doing other things.

In terms of crafting, I agree 100% with the poster(s) who said that consumables are a great way to raise some gil. There are some items that people will always need (ninja tools, food, silent oils, prism powders, etc.), so farm the supplies, craft the products, and sell, sell, sell.

I would also suggest picking one or two main crafts to level to 100+ on your mules (Smithing and Clothcraft are great) and make a very concerted effort to HQ some desirable items (Haubergeon +1, etc.) It definitely requires time and money to get going, but again, you can walk away with a nice lump sum of gil if you are able to get it done. You can use some of the money you make from fishing/farming/gardening to invest in leveling your other crafts, then make your main money to purchase ancient currency using the profits from your crafting.

Again, best of luck to you and I'll check in on your progress from time to time. If I work up the intestinal fortitude to create a blog/thread to post my own progress on my Aegis, I'll be sure to let you know. Hope you don't mind if I call it "The Aegis Project". :-)

Also, I'll send you a PM with some great farming spots I have found -- you're on a different server, so we won't be competing, but I want you to be aware of where/what they are to help you generate some fast gil.

Take care dude -- go get that axe!

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Edited, Feb 4th 2008 12:51pm by Fendamir
#121 Feb 05 2008 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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i'm on a different server too >.> can i have the spots? :D lol jk, hope all is going well with the axe! If all else fails, Shake That BST Moneymaker!
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#122 Feb 06 2008 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Well, BeastsGoneWild has their first ever Dynamis run tonight. Dynamis-Bastok and it's being sponsored by Lomont (the other BST from LoTB upgrading a Guttler) but the only reason why he's sponsoring it.....he had a ****** moment and dropped his Relic Axe. LMAO
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#123 Feb 06 2008 at 7:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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I just finished Bravura (And I'll be damned if I don't brag about it every chance I get), so I wish you all the luck in the world while you try to complete your relic. The hardest part is continuing with the project and not letting it fall off to the side. I stopped for almost two years. One comment I have to make, though is ...
SiviardOfShiva wrote:
Estimated grand total for upgrade #1 is a little under 2.7M
I hate you. Smiley: laugh
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#124 Feb 06 2008 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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LOL! How much did you have to pay for your first upgrade?
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#125 Feb 06 2008 at 12:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lol, that is kind of depressing. I started out with the idea of upgrading my relic axe about 2 years ago. I spent about 10-12 mil to get together about enough currency for my first upgrade. But then I really thought hard about it and decided to hold on to the currency since I wasn't completely sure I wanted to upgrade my axe.

Fendamir wrote:
Time. Is. Money.


It doesn't get any truer than that. Everything you do, you have to think about what the inherent cost is. For example, let's say you farm NPC-able items for an hour and make 50k. You then decide you want to go farm up some synth items for an hour in order to level cooking or whatever craft you want, which in total would have cost you 30k to just buy on the AH. You've just lost out on 20k extra that you could have made that hour from continuing to farm the NPC-ables. I'm sure if you go to the Tradeskills forum you'll see quite a few other posts with this concept in them. It's a very basic economic concept.

I agree that gardening is an often overlooked area (I forgot about it until Fendamir brought it up). It's a great way to increase your gil-making power without needing to waste excessive amounts of time. But to really make use of it you have to be willing to part with some real money to buy the extra mules that will make it actually worthwhile. I know of at least one relic holder on my server that is using gardening in conjunction with crafting to fund his second relic. I also had an ls mate that was extremely wealthy and most of his gil came from gardening. Of course his monthly bill from SE was about $80. <.<

Cheers again, and I expect screenshots when you get around to the actual upgrade.
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#126 Feb 07 2008 at 12:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Regarding the fishing aspect of making Gil.... I managed to get 100 Fishing and complete the Ebisu quest. That quest is the single most difficult quest in the entire game. Only working your ******** off solo to fund your own relic is harder. Getting a LS to help you get currency to fund a relic is nothing in comparison to completing Ebisu quest.

I went 1/125 on the Liks and about 1/300 (can't remember exactly) on the Gugrusaurus before getting the "drops" from them.

And what now? I sold my Lu Shang for just over a million some time back. But there is little to no market on my server for the Ebisu fish. I occasionally check the AH for people buying them and I have come across a couple of people. But they are hardly ever online (maybe mules) and I only ever managed to sell any to just one guy. And after selling him around 20 Gugs he got the bloody drop and had already got the item for Lik before I found him needing stuff.

I still have a few Gugs on a mule (around 12) which I may try to sell in Selbina while afk.
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