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#1 Dec 30 2003 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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subject pretty much asks my question - anyone have input on Dark Knight as a sub would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
#2 Dec 30 2003 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't do that myself. Your pet is supposed to be the fighter... You assist. I can't imagine what benifit you would get from that combination.

I recommend WHM for the early cures and eventual poisena and protectra. Shouldn't design your char for parties really. This combo makes you very self sufficient.

Just my thoughts.

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#3 Dec 30 2003 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for your input. I'll probably take your advice in the long run. (The more I get poisoned and die 1 min after a fight, the more it makes sense=p )
#4 Dec 31 2003 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I think if this is the route you really wanted to go, bst/blm would be a better choice.. although, I can't really say enough about the ability to cast bind effectively. Saw a high level bst/whm the other day bind something, sic a mob on it, and banish it repeatedly. Lots of damage. Very safe.
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#5 Jan 01 2004 at 5:19 AM Rating: Default
Unfortunatly, casting anything will get you aggro. So why WHM then? because you can move out of aggro range and heal and then rest. With blm, you're screwed.

Subbing DRK isn't so bad, but I'd still go with warrior at low levels and white mage after 10 or so, when things like 250 damage poison duration comes into effect, and that you'll have alot of HP to heal if you get really unlucky and fail charm more then 3 times in a row. Subbing DRK, I would assume you would let your pet take alot of the abuse and then move in for the kill, but you'll still be taking alot more damage than you should for alot more downtime.

Not bad, but not the best for solo. I havn't analyzed how this would work in a party, too tired :P
#6 Jan 13 2004 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
Im currently doin beast cuz i got tired of looking for parties as a dkn /war... so im gonna do it... i find that the beast master has all the ability to equip weapons like the dkn also a bst can equip most of all the armor a dkn can... plus the attack up is great ... i chose dkn because im using physical earings so i need a mage like sub to pull mp from n the other didn't cut it.. a paladin would be better but the magic would be more advantageous to keep i rarely use mp cuz im usually sitting back n i keep a stack of antidote always ready... in higher level.. at 60 i can attack like a almost like a dkn and have the better defense which is always great... plus most don't think nbeast r good in parties but as a melee they r pretty well n they help if mobs link... just some think to think about ^^

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#7 Jan 20 2004 at 12:31 PM Rating: Default
Something I notice alot of people seem to skip over with use is that we can be created into a tank. I would suggest DRK personally because I don't like it, but thats not saying it doesn't have it's uses. I would go pally if you can afford the rings that offer mp. Also pally will help in creating you into a tank...BUT as someone stated out pets fight for us. When I subbed ninja I noticed if I joined my pet in a fight the fact that I matched my pets attack for sometimes double it's dmg because of two weapons I took more dmg that my pet.

So before you go off and turn yourself into a tank, keep in mind that you wanna lvl fast and dt(downtime) will hinder you. I would say go whm as sub only because I can get about 6 kills before I rest then 5 minutes back at it...pretty good for a soloer
#8 Jan 21 2004 at 1:30 AM Rating: Default
I was viewing the last playonline update and there was something that caught my eye

Combat skills have been raised for the following jobs:
Black Mage (Club, Staff)
Dark Knight (Axe, Great Axe)
Beastmaster <<<(Scythe)>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Summoner (Club, Staff)

hmmm dkn gives a attack bonus at 10/30/50.... hmmm
I may not be as strong as a dkn at 60 but **** if i can almost attack similarly like a dkn by subbing it at 60bst ill be herendously strong against mobs... this will probably be great wen i need that final blow... just a lil something to think about ^^
#9 Jan 21 2004 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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yea but the axe sheild is still better..much less hate then scythe i find and the huge delay dont want to generate aggro...that is the key.....not dealing tons of damge...use bonus' that give you ways to expedite your downtime etc..***** damage...just deal enough to finsh them off and generate no hate..that is when your set

its been said hundreds of times...and this is why their are only a few viable subs for need to be occupied and doing things while your beast fights..then run in for the that "prior kill time" you dont want aggro you want to be healing or resting etc and thats it. The bst has the ability to eliminate downtime...this is why it solo's viably and why others dont..its all about time vrs exp gained

but then again..dont let me detract from your fun...pretty much anything can work as long as you enjoy playing it
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