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#1 Nov 25 2011 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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So I'm going to try and return after a long hiatus. Assuming I can get Aluus back and/or he hasn't been deleted (heard of players going 2 years without paying for content ID's, character still not auto-deleted.)

So I left back in April of 2010. I was a Ranger main, plan on still being a RNG main when i come back, despite the sorry state of affairs. What I was wondering is, just how out of date is my gear? A lot of stuff on wiki isn't really updated. I'll post links to my old profiles on here, but they're not all inclusive with regards to my gear. Lots of other little things left out that would be swapped as the situation needed.

Mostly tping gear on this one.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?66879

WS set here.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?193363

So, how much of this sh*t is obsolete now? E-bow obviously.

Furthermore, I'm assuming /WAR has become a dead sub with the additional benefits of /SAM since the level cap increase?


Edited, Nov 25th 2011 2:37am by Aluus
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#2 Nov 25 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Well certainly upgrading to AF3 +2 would be the biggest upgrade to gear and honestly not that offensively difficult to obtain these days depending on your friends.
The archery and gun empyrean WS are both good for RNG so shooting for an Empy Bow and Gun (or WoE equivalent) also should be a priority. Most RNG main will get Jishnu's Radiance first whereas those of us with both COR and RNG are shooting for Wildfire weapon.
I still use relic boots, augmented anwig, sieryu's kote, amamet mantle +1and Rajas ring in various setups. Still using scouts belt also.
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#3 Nov 27 2011 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Almost everything is obsolete. So AF3 +2 is the first thing you should aim for.

/SAM is not that useful for exping in abyssea, /WAR still can pump the highest dmg.

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#4 Nov 27 2011 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
If you can corner the market on ISLs, I think /SAM gets a lot more competitive. Also, if you have a relic/empy so that all that TP really pays off.
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#5 Nov 28 2011 at 6:25 AM Rating: Default
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VZX, you have no idea how happy you have just made me by telling me that /WAR isn't dead. Were you a woman, I'd totally consider taking you out to a nice dinner during which I'd slip you a roofie and then take you back to my place for some hot, "consentual" sex.

I was known for being a career RNG/WAR (yes, I used other subs if needed at events, but it was rare!) I was a sad panda thinking it might be a dead combo. That it still pumps out the most damage puts a smile on my face. =)

Btw... since I wasn't around for when the first increase hit, did anyone else find it tough to part with their e-bow? I got mine back during the height of inflation back in either 05 or 06 (about a month or two before the first RMT purge?) for 10mil. Yeah, i've gotten my money's worth. I don't mind the severe price drop but part of me just wants to keep it in the bazaar out of nostalgia.
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#6 Nov 28 2011 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I mostly went /SAM in Aby on the rare occasions I was allowed to come RNG (largely for Blue procs during piercing time). Being able to WS more frequently outdid any extra damage /WAR offered for that sole purpose. Its rare a RNG will be invited to Aby for damage so I'm not certain /WAR remains terribly useful there. Similarly in Voidwatch, being able to pump out WS in a short amount of time is more helpful than overall damage which makes sekka, meditate very useful abilities. With the proc'ing system added to most fights, it seems to take a little bit of the onus off the uber damage numbers. OThers who do more VW than me might have more to say on the subject.
The other thing to note: if you get a WoE or Empyrean Bow, Jishnu's Radiance can crit so getting a critical hit set can be very useful for that WS esp in Aby where you can stack crit % and crit damage atmas.

Personally I had more trouble giving up my HF+1 since I was more of a gun RNG to begin with. But yeah its sad the old weapons of yore have largely gone by the wayside.
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#7 Nov 28 2011 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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As I understand things, my Ninja would be my abyssea whore most likely.
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#8 Nov 29 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Dartagnann wrote:
Its rare a RNG will be invited to Aby for damage so I'm not certain /WAR remains terribly useful there.

To be fair, no jobs get invited for damage in Abyssea. proc, th, survive, kill. If the fight is long enough to bore you, there's always brew.

My argument is that : in Abyssea, Atma of the Sea Daughter is really a blessing for non-melee DD like RNG, 5 TP/tick is a huge in boosting WS frequency, especially when other DD need something to hit in order to gain TP, you can just gain it while you're running (if you're in exp) or waiting your ranged attack to unleash and wait the cooldown before you can initiate the next ranged attack. The time I was using /SAM in Abyssea ends up putting myself in an excessive TP most of the time.

/WAR is really helpful on pumping the WS number up. As we know ranged attack has a lot more room for attack boost compared to melee, there's more reason to use /WAR (in exp situation).
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#9 Dec 05 2011 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Aluus wrote:
As I understand things, my Ninja would be my abyssea whore most likely.
(which are preferred over ruby)

Most certainly.

Although you still have to level RNG. VSX rightly points out that SAM will overproduce TP if you are rocking Sea Daughter atma and WAR will be better.

My personal opinion is that for xp, a True Flight build with MAB atma and RDM sub may outdo other subs. it gives you good damage with advantage of amber lights which are often preferred over ruby from physical WS. Its less costly and since xp is lol these days, spending a lot is pointless. Disadvantage is that it doesn't level archery skills.

Regardless, Aby will not be the prime area you take RNG out. VW will be its big use and I see /SAM as more useful there for procs.
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#10 Dec 08 2011 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
I'm not a fan of Amber light in XP, it leads to people grousing over a few measly KIs instead of actually doing what they're there for.

Some data from a worm PT I did while skilling/playing with a KC:

RNG/WAR, Vision Bow, Demon Arrows, Strong Arm/Voracious Violet/Harvester (or something along those lines).
KC average damage: 29
KC crit average: 51
/ra average: 408
/ra crit avg: 689
Barrage avg: 3151
SW+berserk avg: 3600
SW-berserk avg: 2860

RNG/RDM, Trial Gun, level 1 ammo, Ultimate/Beyond/idk, maybe Kirin for AGI?
KC average damage: 20
KC crit average: 35
/ra average: 173
/ra crit avg: 310
Barrage avg: 1300
TF average: 2530

The TF build wasn't great, mostly thrown together from BLM and RDM plus all the AGI I could find. Then again, Sidewinder gear isn't that great either, it's just a couple gorgets and all the STR/RAtt I can find without looking too hard or spending too much.

Edited, Dec 8th 2011 2:45pm by tertoonetwothreefour
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#11 Dec 09 2011 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for numbers terto.
Worms have a bit of magical resistence so physical stuff likely works better. If you looked at crabs in Grauberg the numbers might have favored the magical WS.

Of course now that I finished my Armageddon, its "screw Truflight, I'll never use that again in Abyssea".
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