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Correct. That's why I said the equip history, which on your account alone shows everything that's been scanned since 6/09.


And even that would only account for people who have registered with FFXIAH. But that's not really the point.

The point is that I am a RNG main, I know other RNG mains, and I have yet to see any E-bow RNG with a 5-hit build in person. Furthermore, to the best of my knowledge, I've never even seen a screenshot of a 5-hit E-bow RNG on any FFXI forum (this is including forums that are full of RNG mains, like this one).

Do they exist? I'm sure they do. But they are rare as f*ck.


You're missing the point. The purpose of the comparison is not to evaluate Tarutaru vs. Galka, but rather to evaluate weapon vs. other weapon. Therefore, the only things that you need to isolate are things that cannot be the same, because everything else can be the same.

If I'm comparing E-bow to HF+1, I don't need to evaluate Mithra vs. Hume or Anwig vs. Maat's or S.Kote vs. w.hands or yellow curry vs. pot-au-feu because all of those things are available options to either weapon. However, if I am defining the comparison as 5-hit vs. 5-hit, STP+36 is required of E-bow, and you must factor it into the comparison as such.

Now if you want to fully flesh out the comparison and fill every slot, be my guest! But at a bare minimum, if you presume 5-hit E-bow then you need to account for STP gear. If you don't want to account for STP gear, then run the numbers at natural TP return and use those figures.

Edited, Mar 30th 2010 4:56pm by redvenomweb

Thank you for repeating what has already been said. The question is not "who can look on the wiki and figure out how to obtain STP+21 from gear?" but "how many E-bow RNGs out there actually have those items?"

It's not like you can just stroll to the AH and pick up a 5-hit gearset. Every single item is R/EX and requires an not-insignificant time investment to get.

That's a pretty poor alternative. You have two choices (keep in mind that you have to wear this item during WS to maintain 5-hit):

1) Store TP/Snapshot (meaning that you are WSing in a Blue Cotehardie +1)
2) Store TP/RATK+10 (meaning that you are giving up the best* +Snapshot bonus you can wear

*ZGB bonus is unknown, but every preliminary test indicates that it's definitely not more than 5%

So pretty much what I got from this is if I can 5-hit a HF+1 and have no means to 5-hit Obow or V.Bow I should stick with HF+1. Yes?

Provided that you are in an event where it is practical to use WSes at 100 TP (both from an accuracy and an enmity standpoint), yes.

Edited, Mar 31st 2010 11:20am by redvenomweb

Isn't this like saying that Double Attack makes Joyeuse useless for XXX/WAR?

Ridiculous; RNG would sh*t on every other job. It would make 2004 RNG look like an invalid.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90728&page=32

Scroll down. cum in your pants. Discuss.

Edited, Apr 8th 2010 11:59pm by Aluus

Fucking bullsh*t, and you wonder why old DoA is soo pissed off about this update.

Congrats RNG we just got outdone by COR.

Someone should let them know that the DMG gun is better than the MAB gun for QD

Sucks that it's a shortbow because the sweet spot will be closer compared to a longbow.

Pardon my Lv.50 bow and Lv.40 arrows. I guess you didn't notice my damage/shot go up from 78 to 102 when the sync dinged 40 while yours didn't move at all. Just sayin.

On another note: You should parse our LS events now, since Cally's disappeared from existence, your ranger should top damage dynamis now.

I think you'll notice a big drop in your COR damage and big gain in the RNG damage once you've finished COR. My COR can't hold a candle to my RNG in damage and I have better gear for my COR.

The difference in A- and B skills gets more noticeable. The difference in RACC is more noticeable as RNG get ACC trait IV. The difference in weapon base damage is noticeable (109 to 122). The weapon delay reduction from snapshot and velocity shot is more noticeable.

At level 30ish, a COR is an astounding DD if geared right. There is no doubt. But it gets worse for sure over time.

If I remember correctly from the thread on BG when the ranged messages added shortbows have a sweet spot around '7 and longbows have a sweet spot around '10 (and yoichi around '14). All these are on size 0 mobs though.

Edited, Apr 15th 2010 7:13pm by Lobivopis