Incoming adjustmentFollow

So, get to 99 and go solo Kirin, Vrtra, etc?

Yeah, I don't by it.

Sounds nice, but I can see it again. On the day of update, the abilities will NOT be added. They did it once so I smell a repeat.

IF SE follows completely through with this (level cap being lifted in segments, so they may stop any time), then welcome to WoW.

sh*t, I'm gonna have my work cut out for me updating the Sticky. I imagine that's gonna be a big deal site wide.

Nope. Unless you're a WAR main and you have Aggessive Aim merits.

I know they will have to carefully re-adjust a lot of things until lvl99 cap is arrived. It's just too much new stuff... something we didn't see it over the first 6-7 years of the game. Now they burst them out at once (well... about 1 year period of time, I suppose). The things they do will be that "break" or "make" kind of deal.

Pretty sure no SAM would choose a -15% TP speed over Aggressor

level 99 ammo will cost 30k per arrow.

SAM/WAR with PLM does. Unless GKT gets an amazing new WS and SAM doesn't use PLM ever again.

This level cap adjustment makes me feel a bit bad for the relic wielders ><

Edited, Mar 2nd 2010 6:08am by sbrubles

Ten characters (and a symbol)...


99RNG/49DRG

I don't think a COR/RNG is going to switch from melee TP to shooting TP if they have a multihit weapon. Price of steel bullets alone would make it prohibitory. Unless a level 80 bullet comes into play that is far more cost effective to craft.

And a RNG still will be far superior in damage to a COR simply because of weapon options, ammo options, A skill and Acc. All the chaos/hunters rolls in the world won't close that gap.

Is this vid available somehwere?

link plz, i would love to see it, been out of touch with the game for a while now.

You can also watch Vanafest2010 on youtube~

Just wanted to point this out, won't affect many RNGs but:

KC RNG will most likely suck balls at 99. The reason is skill gap will get even wider between A+ and E, so unless we got another boatload of accuracy bonus traits, KC won't be able to connect with sh*t at 99. Perhaps one of the magean (or whatever it is) weapon augment quests will let us put Acc+30 on it though, who knows.

And if they keep the current pace of skill ratings a level A+ weapon compared to a level E weapon will have ~130 more skill at 99 which can't even come close to being made up by 13 ACC bonus trait.

I assume however that SE will address skill rating differences to ensure that B and lower rated weapons don't need 150 ACC just to stand a chance at hitting something

I really doubt they're not gonna change the formulas. Not particularly for KClub RNGs, but for DNC/THF/PUP/NIN/BLU/COR/BST. Even SCH and /SCH. Not messing with the formulas will basically make anything less than A+ skill useless once you account for the fact that none of these jobs are 2 handed weapons.

Something like a +30 Accuracy difference between A+ and A-, before the 2handed accuracy bonus will really hurt THF/BLU/NIN/BST/PUP, and considering they're boosting PUP's H2H that would be rather messed up on SE's part... give them A skill and make it useless.. And the difference between A+ and B+ would be over 90. That would essentially make DNC/COR/SCH completely useless since B+ is their best skill level.

You can say DNC/COR can add sushi to help that, but there's nothing SCH can do to help them. RDM nuking and BLM/WHM enfeebling would also all of a sudden become pointless, SE said they wanted classes to be able to fill each other's roles so that's the opposite of what they wanted.


EDIT: I think my math is off some so +30 and +90 probably aren't right. But my point still stands that all the A- and B+ jobs will be really hurt if the formula doesn't change.

Edited, Mar 5th 2010 11:00am by Scritchie

You didn't post the calculations for 75 to indicate whether there will be an increasing gap or not. And if a KClub RNG has to max ACC gear in place of some haste gear, he's already doing less damage. I'd plug in the numbers but I have to head off to work. Suffice it to say, I think SE will need to do some adjustments. Not that they care whether RNG can be K Club monsters or not.

I wasn't being lazy. On the contrary I was heading off to work to be productive so I didn't have time to look the data up.

Anyways I'm back home now. The difference at 75 between A+ and E is 76
A+ skill = 276 (268 acc)
E skill = 200 (200 acc)
200 Acc + 48 from traits = 248 X 1.15= 285
Then add in gear.

But even before gear a KC Club RNG at 75 can surpass accuracy of an A+ weapon with traits and sushi by over 15 points. A level 99 RNG can only get 3 past. That's a W turban vs O Hat difference, which I guess isn't huge, but is still notable.

The RACC formulation has always been annoyingly wonky. I guess its so only RNG's can use ranged attacks reasonably well. Sadly they then introduced COR which has certainly highlighted the annoyance of ranged attack accuracy.

I can see it, slugwinder til 99.

I is sad.

FWIW,

240 skill = 236 Base Acc
Accuracy Bonus IV = +48 Acc
284 Natural Accuracy with B- weapon.

276 skill = 268 Base Acc
Accuracy Bonus II = +22 (Dragoons)

A RNG has greater accuracy with a B- weapon then any A+ users (except Dragoons). They just don't have the attack that other jobs do.

True, but in any situation where you would be meleeing with axes, you would probably be smart enough to lave acc gear in and macro/spellcast racc gear when shooting.

it is starting to seem like rangers are going to be far and few between when cap is raised, on my server ranger gear is getting dumped, while poeple are trying to dump it but noone is buying it.

an ebow hasnt sold for over a month now. Thinking there is going to be a huge imbalance of jobs at 99. probably going to see 50% sams, next to no support or healer jobs, and odd tank here and there