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#1 Feb 20 2004 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a 38RNG/19THF and whenever I use sneak attack, the damage is pathetic. Even on weaker mobs, sneak attack deals the same damage as any normal attack, sometimes lower. I'm thinking maybe this needs to be fixed?
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#2 Feb 20 2004 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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ugh... so sorry about all the same threads... I thought it didn't go through and so I tried and tried again...

Sorry all... Dunno how to delete threads
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#3 Feb 21 2004 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Sneak attack is nerfed when you aren't playing thief as a main job. If you sub thief it's only really useful if used combined with the weapon skill of a nice strong two handed weapon. We don't get any of those and we need our TP for bow skills anyway. Personally I'd recomend using the standard warrior or ninja sub for partying and only using the thief sub for farming. Combat wise it adds nothing and the treasure hunt ability won't help much since even if it adds drops you only have a 1/6 chance of getting the item.
#4 Feb 21 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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THF is a pretty weak sub, and when you have it subbed, sneak attack is worthless.

I was with a WAR/THF once and I was THF/MNK. I asked them to get into position behind the mob so I could sneak/trick right fromt he start of the battle. This WAR/THF proceded to tell me that sneak attack sucks. 'Uh.. no it doesn't' I say. So he's like 'Ok watch'. So I let him get behind the mob and he sneaks for 20 damage! 20! I tell him that sneak sucks when you have THF subbed and he doesn't believe me. So I sneak/trick myself and pull 320. 'Oh' he says.

The moral of the story, sneak sucks when THF is subbed. :P
#5 Feb 21 2004 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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It isn't bad for a warrior actually(Since a warrior can't sub warrior :P ) Around level thirty a warrior in my party at yhoatar was using Sneak Attack>Hard Slash and doing over 300 damage with it. Though I haven't seen the anyone using a combo like that recently I'd imagine it'd just get better when stronger weapon skills open up. Plus sneak attack amplifies renkai(Or maybe that's just when paired with trick) It's not a terrible sub if paired with the right main, you just have to know how to use it.

But yeah, for us rangers it sucks. Unless it's time to bring in some capital in which case it rocks.
#6 Feb 21 2004 at 11:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Thf SJ is very good for normal Melee Jobs, and one of the must for War, as war have Provoke themselves (most melee need provoke in a balance Party)

BUT, sneak/trick does not work on ranged attack, -> useless for Rng.... it is only for $ and material gather in my opinion.

Rng, go for RNG/WAR (damage damage damage) or Rng/nin (2 +ranged acc. knifes, and self blink) ^^
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#7 Feb 22 2004 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually I just partied with 4 JP players and 1 NA player that spoke some japanese. He asked them which was best :
lvl60 DRG/THF, DRG/WAR or DRG/SAM.

AT THE SAME TIME they all said DRG/THF. I was really, really confused. I asked why and they said 'sneak/trick + ws, big damage' and I told them that I thought sneak sucked when THF was subbed. They said that it was great for renkie's and that sneak is capped, like any other ability. So, I was wrong about sneak being that bad when THF is subbed.
#8 Feb 27 2004 at 4:09 AM Rating: Decent
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My only question here..and this goes for all rng/thf's.
I understand that Thf may have been alot of peoples 1st choice in job..1st to 30, so 1st to sub once they get the advanced jobs. but....
I farm with thf subbed.
The very Idea of taking that combo into an xp party...it confuses me. other than making gil..a rng gains absolutely NO advantage to having a thf sub. Not trying to flame peoples choices here. just trying to suggest that you may find a stronger character in your ranger job with war, nin, or sam (at rng 60) subbed.
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#9 Feb 27 2004 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard the DRG/THF combo was very impressive...I may have even heard that DRK/THF is good too.

For us...since none of our Bow WS can work with Sneak, it pretty much just leaves us with a pathetic version of Sneak that isn't really worth using.

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I asked them to get into position behind the mob so I could sneak/trick right fromt he start of the battle. This WAR/THF proceded to tell me that sneak attack sucks. 'Uh.. no it doesn't' I say. So he's like 'Ok watch'.


That's so funny...a couple folks I know said something similar at first too when they first tried THF as a sub. It's a night and day difference.
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