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#1 Feb 18 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi, I recently just got my first ever subjob, after trying maybe three times on various characters classes, none of which worked for me except my galka monk. I am seeking to do a Ranger because one, I make lots of money through raising my subjob/s, mining, and my crafting. I am leveling my crafting skill such that it corresponds to my character level so it makes my time more fun and easy, as I make most of my equipment. That being said, the money is and wil not be an issue for me, as I am willing totake all the time it needs to craft the equipment I need, but the problem I have is that leveling to level 30 seems really hard and frustruating, between not ggetting parties, to just frustruation from players not doing their job. I am wondering if this job is worht the effort required to et to level 30 and if anyone could give me any help in having more fun while leveling my character. Thanks.
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#2 Feb 18 2004 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Be a class that will always get you an invite. Whm are always being looked for. Since you are a galka thats out unless you are able to get mp gears. Warriors are always needed so maybe go war/mnk maybe.
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#3 Feb 18 2004 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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The frustration of partying with nincompoops (sp?) is going to be true regardless of what class you end up. That's just how MMOs work.

Only way around this is to perhaps find friends or at least get acquainted with people you can level with night after night. Problem you'll find is that people will always have different leveling paces and more often then not you'll either pull ahead or fall behind.

I have quite and extensive friends list from great PTs I've been in over time...but inherently one night could mean a difference of 3 or 4 levels for some folks. That's just how it is.

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If you're concerned about the RNG aspect, I can only say it's the most fun class I've tried yet and I have no regrets. From level one it's been a blast to play. The RNG is everything I had hoped for it to be as cheesy as that sounds.

It's probably going to be easier for you to level a RNG up to 30 because (a) now you have the stat bonuses of your subjob; (b) you're more experienced; and (c) generally speaking, the Ranger is probably a more sought-after class then a MNK.

A Galka RNG will certainly be unique... but it's not unheard of.

#4 Feb 18 2004 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Mnk works well at low lvls. At higher lvls, they don't really dish out damage or work well as a tank. Mnk are regarded by most ppl as the worst job. Very few high lvl players look for mnks. They always look for a whm, tank, then damage dealers and supporting jobs.

Rng are the top damage dealers post lvl 30. But if you really commited to lvling your goldsmith to your lvl, then you will no problem with gil issues what so ever. Just know while goldsmithing pays a lot, it takes a lot to get it up; we are talking about millions here to get it high.

Rng quest is really easy so you can get it and try it out. If you are a good ranger doing good xp chain pulls and deal great damage using best arrows and not melee often, you should able to get invites often enough.
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#5 Feb 18 2004 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Mnk works well at low lvls. At higher lvls, they don't really dish out damage or work well as a tank. Mnk are regarded by most ppl as the worst job. Very few high lvl players look for mnks. They always look for a whm, tank, then damage dealers and supporting jobs.

Rng are the top damage dealers post lvl 30. But if you really commited to lvling your goldsmith to your lvl, then you will no problem with gil issues what so ever. Just know while goldsmithing pays a lot, it takes a lot to get it up; we are talking about millions here to get it high.

Rng quest is really easy so you can get it and try it out. If you are a good ranger doing good xp chain pulls and deal great damage using best arrows and not melee often, you should able to get invites often enough.
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#6 Feb 19 2004 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I think people are realizing as more RNGs appear that they make great damage dealers. Lots of people are starting to enjoy having RNGs in their parties now, since they understand what a benefit it can be.

You can always just take RNG out for a spin to lvl 15 or so. If you find people that are leveling up other jobs (meaning they know what they're doing) you should find nice party experiences around lvl 12 (Hunters Longbow indeed).

Not sure if you really want to be pulling on the higher levels. I partied with a lvl 33 RNG and she pulled a few times. As a Mithra she had maybe 400 hp or so, and these things (bats/beetles in Garlaige Citadel) were smacking her for 75-100 a pop. So by the time she got back to the party and our PLD could pull aggro, she was out half her hp. Our Galkan PLD did a much better job pulling.

If you can afford the equip, bows, and arrows, I'm sure you'll find RNG to be great. Out damaging many, many other classes on a consistent basis is very rewarding. And if you're with someone who hasn't partied with a RNG before, jaws drop.
#7 Feb 19 2004 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
The only job that ever apealed to me in this game was RNG,and now that I am a level 20 RNG,I must say it has lived up to allof my expectations.You will not hate the fact that your deal the most damage in your group,in fact it makes me feel sooo good when i play with a DRK or even a mithra RNG(im elvaan) and you out damage and out shoot them.Also I have no trouble finding groups,I almost always get invites when im on my way to Valkrum and Qufim.This job is sooo worth your time obtaining money.I actually LIKE gil farming for hours(its all I do lol,I dont mine or craft or anything) becuase I like playing the job that much.See I was a WAR on the way up and you must understand how much of a bore that is.Basicall you will NOT be dissapointed.
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#8 Feb 19 2004 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if you really want to be pulling on the higher levels. I partied with a lvl 33 RNG and she pulled a few times. As a Mithra she had maybe 400 hp or so, and these things (bats/beetles in Garlaige Citadel) were smacking her for 75-100 a pop. So by the time she got back to the party and our PLD could pull aggro, she was out half her hp. Our Galkan PLD did a much better job pulling.


REALLY?! I pulled literally tens if not hundreds of beetles and bats in Garliage for hours...I love it there and I noticed we RNGs are far superior for pulling anything in Garliage because we can spot around corners using Widescan.

If this RNG pulled correctly, there should have been no reason to have gotten hit at all on the way back to the group...both the beetles and the bats do not outrun the puller. In fact, the holes on the floor only serve to slow down the beetles.

EDIT: Here's some tips for those who maybe pulling in Garliage for the first time. (a) don't pull bats that are situated near any of the doors to adjacent rooms; they obviously will link other bats, (b) before you start pulling, intruct your group to tell you if you end up with more then one pull, this way, you can continue walking right out to zone and the group is no worse for wear assuming they don't attack anything, and (c) if you're pulling from a far distance, turn around and check every so often because you'll be leaving some of those beetles behind. They like to tiptoe past the floor holes. Follow these tips and you'll have a 90%+ success rate there if not better. I don't think I ever died there.

I LOVE IT in Garliage heheh.

Edited, Thu Feb 19 13:41:22 2004 by Kamena
#9 Feb 19 2004 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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We were directly at the entrance, not even going down the stairs (group of lvl 32-34's, actually ended up with 9 of us there :D). Neither puller went in very far at all, we just kept to the few spawns that are right at the entrance. Our RNG was a good one, and she only got hit a few times. BUT when she ran back the enemy still got off a hit (100+ dmg) before PLD could provoke/hit.

When I start pulling I'll make sure I have the max distance between me and the mob so as not to get smacked. Wide scan didn't really apply to what we were doing in there since we didn't leave the entrance.
#10 Feb 19 2004 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I found I had to use Scan a lot there because of the competition in pulls. If there are 3 full groups there, it becomes quite routine that there will be nothing to pull unless you wander down about 2 quadrants into the corridors. I would say I would regularly wander maybe past 3 or 4 intersections there to grab things....

But you're right...IF I got hit, I got hit for around 100 DMG. I elected to wear paperthin robes.

Just don't make it sound like a PLD is a better puller then us RNGs! Blasphemy!! :)
#11 Feb 19 2004 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Haha, PLDs aren't better pullers, but in the case we had (only group there) she got hit quite a bit. We simply had no competition :P
#12 Feb 21 2004 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi guys, I want to thank you for all the help you've given so far, so thank you. Also, I am just about to sell my first stack of silver ingots for 24k on my server so that will turn about 7k profit for me since my friend sends me crystals and silver coins for free, (Thanks Anett!!!). But there is still the problem of leveling my character. From level 13, I really just had to bite my teeth and just do it. I REALLY hate partying in higher levels cuz of the laggy log window and laggy graphics and stuff, but I wanna know if getting to level thirty is really just anohter bite your teeth kind of things, or if there was a way to haev some fun donig it. I know I could kill osme of those gobs and steal some coins to make into ingots, but I don't know what happens where as I am still a noob in Vana'Diel so if anyone could help me further I would really appreciate it. Once again, thanks for all the great help so far!
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#13 Feb 22 2004 at 6:49 AM Rating: Decent
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You can't get to 30 without partying. Unless you want 30 exp per mob and need 5000 to level, I suggest getting into parties. If you don't like partying, you kind of picked the wrong game :P

It isn't so bad if you get with good players, and it's good to hear you made some cash. Good luck.
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